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Halo: Reach |OT7| What are They to Say Now?
- Thread starter The Librarian
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squidhands
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Battle Rifle that turned to single shots when scoped in (2x scope, of course). It would be a great utility weapon (as guns like that should be) and be a good excuse to get rid of the Assault Rifle once and for all.
Changing the mode of fire was one thing all games should have taken from Rainbow Six but so far the only game that did was Battlefield 3.
Then again all developers should have copied ChromeHounds online mode but thats never going to happen either
Slightly Live
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343rd day of the year. There should be celebrations or a party today.
Me like the redesign. Makes for a fitter, more jason-bourny MC. Smaller visor (or is it the angle?) makes him look mean and less of an astronaut. I do sense Halo 4 moving the franchise towards a more dramatic (read tragic) story. I hope The reclaimer trilogy becomes to the original one what the Empire Strikes Back is to A New Hope (bigger in scope, yet personnal, mysterious and menacing).
Does swinging my
no one from Halogaf wants to play with me online :-(
By the way Slightly Live, i love your site and dig your mythos research.
He needs the space for his engineered pro-pipe, right.
The Waypoint twitter is giving stuff out every hour today and we still have the little "surprise" waiting for us.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Sweet. Pass me a party hat and some cake.
The Librarian
Banned
This man speaks the truth.
I pray for better armor. And yes, 343, that includes the "space diaper."
Can't wait for whatever 343 has in store for us today.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I like the new MJOLNIR
Who says that is the only time his armor is going to change in Halo 4
Seriously now that we know WHY it changed and how you go about doing it there might be a mechanic in the game to change/upgrade the armor. Kind of like the upgrades in Metroid.
Stop, stop, stop. So weak, so begging for this. Forunner additions FTW
pretty much a given during the course of the Trilogy and I wonder if they will let us play as another character too
only Halo news today sofar. sorry to derail though.
Halo, the Twinkler trilogy.
Been said to death during Halofest that version is not final. the posture with the head down makes for MC giving his nasty look pose. Big visor is reminiscent to me of an astronaut helmet with very large visor. As for the assemblage, Iguess marriying new ideas while staying true is a difficult task.
If Master Chief turns into Robert Pattinson.... shit is gonna go down between me and Fronkie.
I'm not seeing the "mean," nor the "astronaut" in either of the designs.
The new design looks really inconsistent - some parts of it look much sleeker, simplified, while other parts are cluttered and much more mechanical.
To me, the missing bits of its outer shell make it look more weak, rather than fit. They also do some really weird things with perceived proportions.
I would really like to finally see what it looks like in-game, I'm hoping it's just awkward promo art.
You know what would be awesome to do on next gen systems? Use Tessellation to have armor appearance and abilities change on the fly while you see the changes take place
(Requires Forerunner nanobots lol)
The Librarian
Banned
Yeah that's a good point. It does look awkward.
lol I don't care about derailing the thread. I do it all the time. I meant that Armor changes is such a non issue in the grand scheme of things
You know what would be awesome to do on next gen systems? Use Tessellation to have armor appearance and abilities change on the fly while you see the changes take place
(Requires Forerunner nanobots lol)
Drools...If Androids dream of electric sheeps and get on with it, why do I feel so shameful for dreaming of Forunner Spartans?
You played Vanquish? If not go to youtube to see the weapons-change animations
Yeah I don't give a fuck about those magazine covers but I'm with monkey in getting hot to see
Hypertrooper
Member
I'd do the host. lol.
First magazine is already out for months. Same content like the US Halo Special magazine. And I think the "Next OXM" is already out for a month. But I'm not sure about this.Anybody get this?
Next OXM:
Exclusive?
From what I've heard, the "WHY" was originally just "artistic license." I'm not exactly convinced that they had a technobabble reason for it until much later in development. If you look closer, the MJOLNIR even has the same battle damage as it did in Halo 3. Hey, nanomachines, you missed a spot.Who says that is the only time his armor is going to change in Halo 4
Seriously now that we know WHY it changed and how you go about doing it there might be a mechanic in the game to change/upgrade the armor. Kind of like the upgrades in Metroid.
squidhands
Member
But seriously, the promo art for the new armor looks like ass. The helmet is too boxy and reminicent of the Grunt gas mask, the floaty bits of abdominal armor that don't seem to connect to anything, the new shoulder pieces...bleh.
Not saing he's been transformed already, and the damage gives it up, the action takes place without him having had any external (or at least UNSC) contact before Halo 4 starts.
Heard next xbox is mid-late 2013
Next OXM states that it will go on sale on Wed 28 December.
Well we know its the last year now that Devlopment has started on next gen games. Also i don't think Crytek is the only one with the new Xbox dev kits either.
The pouty part of the helmet is what bothers me the most. The detail makes it look like it has breathing holes, just adding to the impression of it not being very protective.
Also agreed about the weird abdominal bits, they remind me of Evangelions' segmented midsections.
ElRenoRaven
Member
You and me both. It's so hard though when seeing both side to side. It really doesn't help when we got that lame ass nanotech bullshit in glasslands. I really just fear that that was done so that they could use it as a cop out. I hope I'm wrong.
Hypertrooper
Member
You can get 46,343cR(if you haven't done the Weekly already) through challenges today.
I think I need a better picture of both sets of Mjolnir before I could really make the call on which I totally prefer; it might just be the angle of the helmet that is throwing you guys, it didn't really look like that in the trailer. As for the segmented abdominal plates, well, that would promote better movement
Does anyone have any idea why I sometimes get disconnected from games, get a win for it, and don't actually get disconnected from XBL? I get huge lag, screen goes dark like it is changing hosts, then when it finally comes back, it shows me as the only person left in the game, and I win. I can then hop right back into matchmaking, I can even open the guide and look at stuff while in the process of being disconnected!
Some sweet forerunner upgrades would be pretty Metroid-y, and awesome.
Does anyone have any idea why I sometimes get disconnected from games, get a win for it, and don't actually get disconnected from XBL? I get huge lag, screen goes dark like it is changing hosts, then when it finally comes back, it shows me as the only person left in the game, and I win. I can then hop right back into matchmaking, I can even open the guide and look at stuff while in the process of being disconnected!
Some sweet forerunner upgrades would be pretty Metroid-y, and awesome.
squidhands
Member
I haven't read any of the novels apart from Fall of Reach, so I don't know if this is alluded to in the newer books, but the new art style makes me wonder if Chief's visit to this new planet/Unicron-thingy is going to bring about further, more radical changes to his armor. Maybe he'll finally get that Combat Skin that 343 mentioned in the first game.
The concept sounds fun, but he'd have to lose any radical visual upgrades and go back to his regular, highly marketable self in the next game.
The Librarian
Banned
Okay, in honor of the 343'd day of the year, I'm going to give out some codes.
I have two (count 'em, two) MC avatar armor, male and female. First come first serve I guess?
I think I am willing to part with my download code for the Anniversary maps at the cost of me having to switch discs (the horror!). I want to be more careful with this. I'm unsure how to proceed with this one.
I have two (count 'em, two) MC avatar armor, male and female. First come first serve I guess?
I think I am willing to part with my download code for the Anniversary maps at the cost of me having to switch discs (the horror!). I want to be more careful with this. I'm unsure how to proceed with this one.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Without spoiling the novels, there is a ... logical reason he has "new" armour. The level 12 combat skin mentioned by 343 is basically just a rating given to armour based on its protectiveness. Its to be assumed that forerunner armour is along the lines of level 12 (see below image) and not that some kind of MJOLNIR level 12 exists. The worst thing 343i could do is to give chief a entirely new look. Certain aspects must stay the same for him to still be recognizable, the gold square visor green helmet is how people know its chief its his "face"
I really wouldnt read to much into what 343 said.
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avatar code, male?
Overall Halo 3 is easily better than Reach to me but is still flawed in certain aspects, noone pretends otherwise.
What a whore. And it's not even like the guy will get super rich and famous all of a sudden.
PLEASE
Thank you so much!
squidhands
Member
Right. Seems like a stretch to go so radical because of the future marketing, so I guess we're stuck with bizarre tweaks that do nothing to repair that damaged chest. :lol
Without spoiling the novels, there is a ... logical reason he has "new" armour. The level 12 combat skin mentioned by 343 is basically just a rating given to armour based on its protectiveness. Its to be assumed that forerunner armour is along the lines of level 12 (see below image) and not that some kind of MJOLNIR level 12 exists. The worst thing 343i could do is to give chief a entirely new look. Certain aspects must stay the same for him to still be recognizable, the gold square visor green helmet is how people know its chief its his "face"
I really wouldnt read to much into what 343 said.
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Thagomizer
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Shepard-Commander.
The Librarian
Banned
I'm going to join the chorus of folks saying that the Banshee needs to be taken out of every variant of Headlong/Breakneck (or whatever it's called) ASAP.
Also, just finished a game of 1 Flag on Breakneck, and I dunno if it was the map layout or Reach's clumsy UI, but I was having a hard time keeping track of the flag.
Also, just finished a game of 1 Flag on Breakneck, and I dunno if it was the map layout or Reach's clumsy UI, but I was having a hard time keeping track of the flag.
There's like 5 paths to take the flag back on Headlong. Probably the map.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Comparison of Chiefs. (Click to make ALOT bigger)
Made the mistake of going into the new PC vs console debate thread on gaming side; people posted some pretty sweet setups of their home in there.
Like some guy who had his bed right next to his TV, flanked by speakers. That just made me saw 'wow'.
I think Reach looks pretty good, and while I think BF3 on my PC looks 'better', its not like its blowing me away with how super-amazing it looks either. I guess I'm more excited for the next-gen for 60fps and more expansive environments rather than simply just higher resolution.
I kinda like the new armor, would be better if we had a few more shots from different angles though. The angry face-down look for the helmet isn't really doing it for me though; would have preferred a more straight on shot, or looking up like the H3 one.
Like some guy who had his bed right next to his TV, flanked by speakers. That just made me saw 'wow'.
I think Reach looks pretty good, and while I think BF3 on my PC looks 'better', its not like its blowing me away with how super-amazing it looks either. I guess I'm more excited for the next-gen for 60fps and more expansive environments rather than simply just higher resolution.
Comparison of Chiefs. (Click to make ALOT bigger)
I kinda like the new armor, would be better if we had a few more shots from different angles though. The angry face-down look for the helmet isn't really doing it for me though; would have preferred a more straight on shot, or looking up like the H3 one.
Well, he does poop inside it.
ncsuDuncan
Member
Nice comparison, Stalker. I really like how the CEA armor turned out.
Also makes me think the Halo 4 chestpiece vaguely resembles the CE chest.
I still think the Halo 3 version is the best. I can understand the need for a new design - new studio, new trilogy. I think my biggest problem is just the helmet. I'd much prefer a Halo 3 helmet on that new chest/body. The mouth and jaw area of the H4 design just seems off.
Also makes me think the Halo 4 chestpiece vaguely resembles the CE chest.
I still think the Halo 3 version is the best. I can understand the need for a new design - new studio, new trilogy. I think my biggest problem is just the helmet. I'd much prefer a Halo 3 helmet on that new chest/body. The mouth and jaw area of the H4 design just seems off.