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[Crucio]

Where did the Halo Reach Blog come from, I'm really confused now. Lol

 

[CrazedArabMan]

This is probably old news by now, but I just saw this article at Eurogamer.pt (dated today) referencing the latest OXM UK magazine and a 10-page Halo Reach feature. I'll post the link here and can translate if it's not been done already.

http://www.eurogamer.pt/articles/covenant-em-halo-reach-e-aterrador

I did a quick google translation and found one of the side stories was asking if Halo Reach would use natal, but instead it translated to:

Halo Reach will not use Christmas
:lol :lol :lol

No Christmas

 

[GhaleonEB]

Hm, never saw glassed planets or parts of them before in a Halo game I think. Is there a description how glassed surfaces looks like somewhere? I only read Fall of Reach so far...

I don't recall the exact description, but glassed just means that the surface of the planet has been super-heated by plasma bombardments and melted such that it takes on a glassy appearance. It looks like molten, shiny rock splashed over nearby plants and structures in that concept art. To me, at least.

 

[NOKYARD]

Where did the Halo Reach Blog come from

the internet

 

[Crucio]

I just saw the Forum post by Sketch on Bungie.net. sorry about that!


\/\/\/\/\/ Yeah I think the glassing effect will be nice to see.

 

[EazyB]

Really hope the vidoc reveals the MP portion of the game. That or some new game mode/feature. Campaign will be pretty cool, got it, lets move on.

And glassed environments seem to be a perfect way to convey destruction and make things shinny and pretty. Brown, ruined buildings don't appeal to me atmospherically or from a gameplay standpoint.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

They can't get rid of splitscreen.

Seriously. Bad decision if they do.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Really hope the vidoc reveals the MP portion of the game. That or some new game mode/feature. Campaign will be pretty cool, got it, lets move on.

And glassed environments seem to be a perfect way to convey destruction and make things shinny and pretty. Brown, ruined buildings don't appeal to me atmospherically or from a gameplay standpoint.

That's how MP in Halo 3 was revealed. A vidoc presents a better format to introduce and explain changes than a straight up trailer does. The reveals are likely to be about the upcoming Beta and MP in general for a while now that the campaign reveal is behind us and the Beta is approaching. Here's hoping.

 

[Domino Theory]

Really hope the vidoc reveals the MP portion of the game. That or some new game mode/feature. Campaign will be pretty cool, got it, lets move on.

Agreed.

I don't want to know more/be spoiled any more on the Campaign than I already am.

Multiplayer? BRING IT.

 

[Ramirez]

I want to believe in a MP reveal in the Vidoc, but I'm not getting my hopes up...

 

[Major Williams]

The beta is what... maybe 2.5 months out? That's 10 weeks guys. Not a lot of BWUs to introduce and prepare people for the beta without having a large reveal for it.

My prediction: X10 will have MP footage/beta info.

 

[Gui_PT]

I better see some Multiplayer Splitscreen on the Vidoc!

 

[feel]

http://www.nobleactual.com/

poor urk, they just hate him over there don't they

 

[BattleMonkey]

Seems more like a molten city.

Kinda looks like wreckage of a warship. The melting looks like what you would expect plasma damage from covenant weapons to look like.

 

[Ramirez]

The beta is what... maybe 2.5 months out? That's 10 weeks guys. Not a lot of BWUs to introduce and prepare people for the beta without having a large reveal for it.

My prediction: X10 will have MP footage/beta info.

It sounds more possible when put into this perspective, but still...:|

 

[kylej]

If there is a MP reveal I think they'll sneak some footage of a map remake in there. Maybe Headlong, Lockout, The Pit, whatever. A flash of excellence.

 

[EazyB]

I want to believe in a MP reveal in the Vidoc, but I'm not getting my hopes up...

It'll be a vidoc explaining their new 6 player splitscreen tech.

 

[derFeef]

It'll be a vidoc explaining their new 6 player splitscreen tech.

... where you have to buy a second 360 :lol

Anyhow, can not wait for Thursday and Friday. X10 and ViDoc - awesome.

 

[Ramirez]

If there is a MP reveal I think they'll sneak some footage of a map remake in there. Maybe Headlong, Lockout, The Pit, whatever. A flash of excellence.

I get the feeling that the MP might change enough that it simply won't work with the old maps without tweaks, we'll see I guess.

 

[Crucio]

Eww, 6 player(or more) Split Screen was bad enough on the SNES. Lol.
But hey, we've got HDTVs now. Who knows. The Xbox might have some hidden wireless receivers for two more remotes. Lmao.. Yeah right.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

DevBlog + M.Cannon effect == damn good times.
Roll on Friday!

 

[op_ivy]

EDIT: nm. dont care to bring it up again.

great news about vidoc. MP please. the less i see of the career prior to launch, the better

 

[Kapura]

re: Dev blog
aahhhhhh I'm so excited to get developer insight. Unfortunately, it required reshuffling of my bookmarks bar. Had to bump something down to the list of shame. I'll be spamming F5 until something new comes up. It'll be awesome.

 

[big ander]

Super late but:

We can confirm that we'll be there and I can convey my excitement about the event.

As to what we're showing/saying... here are the guidelines we've been asked to follow: :lol

You can confirm that Bungie will be in attendance at X10 showing off Reach
 EXAMPLE: Gearing up for X10 in San Francisco. Can’t wait to show Reach to US and int’l press and kickoff the biggest year in Xbox history! #X10Xbox

o You can share when the event is and what readers can expect to see coming out of the event
 EXAMPLE: Be on the lookout on 2/11 – we’ll be showing Reach's first ViDoc to the press at X10 and it will be on Marketplace and web the following morning. #X10Xbox

There will be some stuff coming. Stay tuned.

 

[Trasher]

Referring to this split-screen argument:

Why does someone's opinion like Ram's matter more compared to that of a guest's? Because he actually PAID for the product he is using. Why should his experience be ruined so someone who doesn't pay for the service/console/game can have fun at his expense? Now, I know there are a lot of you that use split-screen a lot, but there are also a lot of people that never use it at all. I'm fine with the people who actually use two gold accounts for split-screen play online, but those who don't have gold accounts don't deserve to use the Xbox Live service in my opinion. They should be limited to playing at LANs or on a single Xbox together. At the very least, keep guests in their own playlist. If it were up to me I don't think they even deserve to have a playlist dedicated for them. Xbox Live should only be for the people who pay for it. That's the bottom line.

 

[NullPointer]

Some of you anti-split-screeners freak me out.

Guests are having fun, at your expense? Really? This isn't professional sports here for chrissakes.

 

[The Librarian]

Referring to this split-screen argument:

Why does someone's opinion like Ram's matter more compared to that of a guest's? Because he actually PAID for the product he is using. Why should his experience be ruined so someone who doesn't pay for the service/console/game can have fun at his expense? Now, I know there are a lot of you that use split-screen a lot, but there are also a lot of people that never use it at all. I'm fine with the people who actually use two gold accounts for split-screen play online, but those who don't have gold accounts don't deserve to use the Xbox Live service in my opinion. They should be limited to playing at LANs or on a single Xbox together. At the very least, keep guests in their own playlist. If it were up to me I don't think they even deserve to have a playlist dedicated for them. Xbox Live should only be for the people who pay for it. That's the bottom line.

So his payment is forcing him to play social? I still don't understand why you can't just play ranked, and if you want to play BTB, the lack of a ranked BTB is Bungie's fault, not the inclusion of splitscreen.

 

[Nutter]

Referring to this split-screen argument:

Why does someone's opinion like Ram's matter more compared to that of a guest's? Because he actually PAID for the product he is using. Why should his experience be ruined so someone who doesn't pay for the service/console/game can have fun at his expense? Now, I know there are a lot of you that use split-screen a lot, but there are also a lot of people that never use it at all. I'm fine with the people who actually use two gold accounts for split-screen play online, but those who don't have gold accounts don't deserve to use the Xbox Live service in my opinion. They should be limited to playing at LANs or on a single Xbox together. At the very least, keep guests in their own playlist. If it were up to me I don't think they even deserve to have a playlist dedicated for them. Xbox Live should only be for the people who pay for it. That's the bottom line.

I think its just time we moved on from that arguement and get ready for some reach footage.

 

[Lunchbox]

Some of you anti-split-screeners freak me out.

Guests are having fun, at your expense? Really? This isn't professional sports here for chrissakes.

I dont want no splitscreeners ruining my flow when im getting ready for a MLG event

 

[Nutter]

You know whats worst then 4 player split screen guests on live.. all of them running off an extremely slow connection.. that is 4 people you know will be lagging the shit out of the game. How do people think its actually fun to have 4 people play on a screen and lag themselves and lag the entire game because they want to play on live. [and I am done]

 

[Trasher]

So his payment is forcing him to play social? I still don't understand why you can't just play ranked, and if you want to play BTB, the lack of a ranked BTB is Bungie's fault, not the inclusion of splitscreen.

Can't play ranked if you are in a party of 5 and you want to play a competitive game. And yes, this is Bungie's fault on their playlist design. My point is just that it isn't fair for paying customers to have their service ruined by people who don't even pay anything.

So Bungie needs to either figure out a better lineup of playlists, or they need to remove split-screen from matchmaking.

 

[Lunchbox]

You know whats worst then 4 player split screen guests on live.. all of them running off an extremely slow connection.. that is 4 people you know will be lagging the shit out of the game. How do people think its actually fun to have 4 people play on a screen and lag themselves and lag the entire game because they want to play on live. [and I am done]

then one of them team kills you, so you boot them.......now its just you vs 5

 

[Arnie]

Referring to this split-screen argument:

Why does someone's opinion like Ram's matter more compared to that of a guest's? Because he actually PAID for the product he is using. Why should his experience be ruined so someone who doesn't pay for the service/console/game can have fun at his expense? Now, I know there are a lot of you that use split-screen a lot, but there are also a lot of people that never use it at all. I'm fine with the people who actually use two gold accounts for split-screen play online, but those who don't have gold accounts don't deserve to use the Xbox Live service in my opinion. They should be limited to playing at LANs or on a single Xbox together. At the very least, keep guests in their own playlist. If it were up to me I don't think they even deserve to have a playlist dedicated for them. Xbox Live should only be for the people who pay for it. That's the bottom line.

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Spoiler

Sarcasm. I totally understand your point and feel similar. However, there would probably be an army of super pissed split screeners, ready to tell you how often they use the split screen function and how you've split their universe apart by removing it.

 

[Trasher]

Hitler.jpg

Spoiler

Sarcasm. I totally understand your point and feel similar. However, there would probably be an army of super pissed split screeners, ready to tell you how often they use the split screen function and how you've split their universe apart by removing it.

Oh I know haha. If they are allowed to keep playing on Live for free, then I just hope they have their own "Guest Only" playlist to enjoy with one another. The question is though, how many copies would Bungie lose out on selling if they took this feature out of Reach? I'm guessing not many. Would anyone here not buy Reach if 4 player split-screen was not in matchmaking?

 

[user_nat]

People need to clarify what they are arguing against.
Guests or split screen in general.
Do people who have a problem with guests also not like it when 4 people with gold accounts play on one xbox?

 

[Lunchbox]

People need to clarify what they are arguing against.
Guests or split screen in general.
Do people who have a problem with guests also not like it when 4 people with gold accounts play on one xbox?

both

splitscreen probably limits bungie from doing certain things in the game. i remember how cliffyB talked about how hard they had to squeeze their engine because the game had to output to 2 screens from the same box for Gears...now imagine 4.

and getting rid of splitscreen would get rid of guests. 2 birds 1 stone

 

[The Librarian]

Can't play ranked if you are in a party of 5 and you want to play a competitive game. And yes, this is Bungie's fault on their playlist design. My point is just that it isn't fair for paying customers to have their service ruined by people who don't even pay anything.

So Bungie needs to either figure out a better lineup of playlists, or they need to remove split-screen from matchmaking.

If we want to get into the whole business of who's paying what for what, there's two things wrong with that:
1. I, a paying customer, could be over at a friends house and we decide to play some Halo online. My friend boots up his account and I sign in as a guest. I've paid for the service, so I should be able to use it as a guest or not. If you want to bring up the whole recovering your gamercard thing, that still presents the same problem accompanied by guests (one quit means you all have to quit).
2. If someone has paid for the service, he/she should be able to use it to its fullest potential. Just because Ram decides not to use one feature does not make it wrong for another person to use that same feature. He paid for it too.

 

[feel]

Couple days ago I wouldn't have believed there are actually people in the world that dislike the splitscreen/guests feature, that would prefer if it wasn't in the next Halo, and that go as far as insulting people who love and use the feature... oh internet you always blow my mind.

I do agree with them in one point of view: I'd rather have OTHER people's experience be miserable so mine and my friends isn't. So thanks Bungie for having splitscreen online, my manbaby friends and I will be there huddling around a TV rocking it in Reach MP.

Also I only just now realized that mancannon is Brian Jarrard, always thought it was odd that he wasn't a poster here.

 

[Striker]

Can't play ranked if you are in a party of 5 and you want to play a competitive game. And yes, this is Bungie's fault on their playlist design. My point is just that it isn't fair for paying customers to have their service ruined by people who don't even pay anything.

So Bungie needs to either figure out a better lineup of playlists, or they need to remove split-screen from matchmaking.

Those bringing in the guests are paying for the service.

Personally I never cared for guests of 3 or 4, but when it is two people it isn't always so bad. When three or more show, you just know its going to be a win or they'll eventually quit when down one flag or so many kills. It was that way in Halo 3 and Halo 2, no difference. My biggest gripe is the amount of social playlists. Keep the splits to a minimum and it'll be better for the population of ranked (there needs to be a BTB playlist ranked, and no horseshit in the first stages with experimental playlists or maps).

If I ran it, I would love a custom browser for the non-ranked gaming and Ranked otherwise. Social is usually non-competitive and more for misc activity.

 

[NullPointer]

Maybe Bungie can take the abysmally underutilized Xbox concept of GamerZone and make their own Halo Matchmaking version of it.

Choose Recreation, and rules are relaxed a bit. Guests are welcome, and you can still find ranked games (finding players of your skill level is ALWAYS valuable, not just for the competitive types). Choose Pro if you want a more ultra competitive experience, require decent connection speeds, enforce stricter rules for leaving games early, etc. Choose Family and you'll have more moderated games, maybe stricter communication rules, etc.

Seems that Halo is just so many different things to so many different people that trying to please everybody with the same basic set of playlists just won't work.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Seems that Halo is just so many different things to so many different people that trying to please everybody with the same basic set of playlists just won't work.

Perfect summation. Now, lets move on

 

[Lunchbox]

Perfect summation. Now, lets move on

they should get rid of AR starts

 

[NullPointer]

I want a jetpack.

C'mon, Brutes and Elites both got em.

 

[Major Williams]

I was all for vidocs in the past, but to me, Vidocs do less for me than a trailer - I want to be hyped for the game, hollywood style.

But alas, the Vidocs are the best combination of feature reveal/developer commentary out there IMO.

 

[Trasher]

If we want to get into the whole business of who's paying what for what, there's two things wrong with that:
1. I, a paying customer, could be over at a friends house and we decide to play some Halo online. My friend boots up his account and I sign in as a guest. I've paid for the service, so I should be able to use it as a guest or not. If you want to bring up the whole recovering your gamercard thing, that still presents the same problem accompanied by guests (one quit means you all have to quit).
2. If someone has paid for the service, he/she should be able to use it to its fullest potential. Just because Ram decides not to use one feature does not make it wrong for another person to use that same feature. He paid for it too.

1. Read my posts please. I said I am fine with people using two gold accounts for split-screen. Just recover your tag or bring your own Xbox and TV over to your friend's.

2. I never said it was wrong for a person to use the split-screen feature (ie multiple gold accounts). I just think it is shitty that we have people who don't pay a dime for the service/game/console and ruin games by dropping out by either betraying people or just leaving mid-match. By eliminating the ability for people to enter matches with guests means you eliminate all of those games that are ruined by guests. That's the point I am trying to make.

 

[Kibbles]

I was all for vidocs in the past, but to me, Vidocs do less for me than a trailer - I want to be hyped for the game, hollywood style.

But alas, the Vidocs are the best combination of feature reveal/developer commentary out there IMO.

And hopefully it is just that, a reveal (mp!), and not a rehash of what we already know.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Referring to this split-screen argument:

Why does someone's opinion like Ram's matter more compared to that of a guest's? Because he actually PAID for the product he is using.

And so did the person who wants to play split screen with his friends (or in my case, family*).



*Though I don't care if it's in matchmaking one way or the other, as long as it's an option for local play.

 

[The Librarian]

1. Read my posts please. I said I am fine with people using two gold accounts for split-screen. Just recover your tag or bring your own Xbox and TV over to your friend's.

What if I don't log in using my account? What difference does it make if I'm a guest or using my account? I've still paid for the service.

2. I never said it was wrong for a person to use the split-screen feature (ie multiple gold accounts). I just think it is shitty that we have people who don't pay a dime for the service/game/console and ruin games by dropping out by either betraying people or just leaving mid-match. By eliminating the ability for people to enter matches with guests means you eliminate all of those games that are ruined by guests. That's the point I am trying to make.

And you think people signing in with their gold accounts eliminates those problems? Because it doesn't. Having two golds play on the same xbox is the same thing as having a gold and a guest play. There's no difference.

 

[Oozer3993]

Maybe Bungie can take the abysmally underutilized Xbox concept of GamerZone and make their own Halo Matchmaking version of it.

Choose Recreation, and rules are relaxed a bit. Guests are welcome, and you can still find ranked games (finding players of your skill level is ALWAYS valuable, not just for the competitive types). Choose Pro if you want a more ultra competitive experience, require decent connection speeds, enforce stricter rules for leaving games early, etc. Choose Family and you'll have more moderated games, maybe stricter communication rules, etc.

Seems that Halo is just so many different things to so many different people that trying to please everybody with the same basic set of playlists just won't work.

Choose Underground if you're a complete douchenozzle. I swear every single Mr. Team Killer and Dr. Stand Infrontof Mysniper list themselves as "Underground."

Woohoo! Reach Dev Blog is up! http://www.nobleactual.com/

Concept art of a secret section in Reach from the Blog:

Man, I hope they stocked up on those Bungie pants...

I'm guessing Bungie is done talking about Campaign for awhile. They'll focus on MP until the public beta ends and then start hyping Campaign again at E3.

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

Choose Underground if you're a complete douchenozzle. I swear every single Mr. Team Killer and Dr. Stand Infrontof Mysniper list themselves as "Underground."

What does that make us then?
You have a habit of running infront of me and my crosshairs have a nasty habit of gravitating towards you.
But with us it's unintentional, that's why we're "Pro" not "Underground"?

Ok, I can live with that.