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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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Future PhaZe
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Why should gameplay be held for E3? We'll actually play the game before then.
Bungie needs to just show some gameplay...anything.
Bungie needs to just show some gameplay...anything.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
I think we'll probably see some gameplay, but not necessarily campaign gameplay. Even a few snippets in a vidoc would be welcome.
electricpirate
Member
There are two more big events before the beta, x'10 and PAX east, I'm assuming we are going to hear about some hands on from one of the two. X'10 seems like a good place to unveil MP, as we are probably only 3 months out from the Beta and still know nothing beyond the basic sandbox changes.
I'm really hoping they'll have something playable at Pax East, because, umm, I'll be there
I'm really hoping they'll have something playable at Pax East, because, umm, I'll be there
electricpirate
Member
Gui_PT said:
I'll bring headshots of Oonsk for Urk to sign.
Assuming He's there of course...
What's stopping them from showing some game play exactly? Graphics are up to par for screen shots but not in motion? Bugs are so frequent they can't even make short clips and stitch them together?
It's not like the game play will be anything new or ground breaking after 9 years of the same thing. Though I guess that works arguing the other way as well -_-
It's not like the game play will be anything new or ground breaking after 9 years of the same thing. Though I guess that works arguing the other way as well -_-
DualX
Member
Perhaps they are working towards making sure everything looks right (in this case even better for the terrain) before they show off anything. No need to rush stuff like that now when we still have quite a ways to play it. It'll just make you want it that much more when they do.Kenak said:
electricpirate said:There are two more big events before the beta, x'10 and PAX east, I'm assuming we are going to hear about some hands on from one of the two. X'10 seems like a good place to unveil MP, as we are probably only 3 months out from the Beta and still know nothing beyond the basic sandbox changes.
I'm really hoping they'll have something playable at Pax East, because, umm, I'll be there
GameFest is also going on this week on the 10th and 11th. It is mainly for developers though. Some Natal information might leak out of there though. Probably no new game info.
They're just now barreling into the internal alpha, I'm sure the public beta is a ways off yet.Raide said:
That said, Bungie has in recent updates repeatedly said that we'd see the fruits of their labor "soon", and while that could mean anything, it's raised my hopes for some X10 goodness. Considering the show is intended in part to showcase what the 360 has in store this year, no new Reach footage or details would be a bit of an omission.
The Librarian
Banned
Here's hopin'!RdN said:
BerserkerBarage
Neo Member
On the topic of split-screen MP, I'll give my .02.
I play Halo 3 with my wife. We play split-screen. And because we can play Halo 3 split-screen the amount of time I get to spend on Halo is drastically increased because it is something we can do together.
Because of this single feature (ie split-screen MP) I have played thousands of games more than if it wasn't an option.
And because games like MW2 doesn't offer split-screen MP, the only time I get to play that game is when my wife is busy or out of the house.
If Bungie really views XBL and their MM system as an extension of "the virtual couch" they have to keep split-screen MP in. At least 2 player.
~B.B.
I play Halo 3 with my wife. We play split-screen. And because we can play Halo 3 split-screen the amount of time I get to spend on Halo is drastically increased because it is something we can do together.
Because of this single feature (ie split-screen MP) I have played thousands of games more than if it wasn't an option.
And because games like MW2 doesn't offer split-screen MP, the only time I get to play that game is when my wife is busy or out of the house.
If Bungie really views XBL and their MM system as an extension of "the virtual couch" they have to keep split-screen MP in. At least 2 player.
~B.B.
electricpirate
Member
JaggedSac said:
That reminds me, I forgot about GDC, which may leak out some design insights, especially from Griesemer's presentation,
http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=28549
Looking back, Beta date was announced a month ahead of time, if it's hitting earlier in the spring than H3's beta it could be announced at x'10 or PAX.
Sorry to break it to you but Bungie's said that they won't be sending anyone to PAX East in any official capacity.electricpirate said:I'm really hoping they'll have something playable at Pax East, because, umm, I'll be there
I don't think the chances of Reach having a substantial presence is very good.
Move to the better coast. Everyone's doing it.
Mr Vociferous
Member
lolz.EazyB said:
electricpirate
Member
EazyB said:
Le Booo.
I escaped CA already, but maybe i should move to Seattle so I can go touch doors.
might go to pax prime this year also
Kenak said:
MS? I think MS has a certain guidline for how they reveal Halo. We'll get some beta stuff in a few months and they'll finally show a campaign trailer at e3 followed by a level demo at one of the European events later on. I don't understand it. It's not like Halo isn't going to sell millions and millions of games of it's shown off earlier than usual.
dilatedmuscle said:
If you honestly think split screen online is the future standard of online gaming, then I give up.
How about this, if they must allow the feature, why not make a playlist specifically for this? Would that be too simple?
Shishka
Me getting matched with these retards is barrels of fun as well.
Are you daft? Read what I wrote, I said they don't even try to play the actual game most of the time, they're busy killing each other or driving mongoose/warthogs off the side of cliffs. Sorry that I expect to turn on the game and have an actual game of Halo and not have it ruined by 4 stoners who just want to dick around with each other instead of doing the actual objective of the match.
DiabolicalBagel
Member
No, bad idea. One playlist is not enough. Our enjoyment is just as important as yours so we shouldn't be restricted to the one playlist.Ramirez said:
As I have already said, if you want an option to play without split-screeners in social games then, a filter is the only way to go.
Major Williams
Member
I know I'm LTTP, but I have to agree. I would rather performance/graphics increase OVER co-op play. That is coming from someone who has guests over/goes over to play at friends' houses on occasion. The sheer number of people who own xboxes has increased, so more people can enjoy MM from their own homes and be forced to see the truly better experience of the party system.EazyB said:
Only when a bunch of guys are over do I really play Halo/COD, otherwise, all the girls want to
play guitar hero.
Gui_PT said:
What you dudes are failing to realize is that this fun you all keep harping on about is an opinion just like ours. I can't imagine anyone out of high school huddling 3 grown men around a TV and playing split screen Halo. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
Kuroyume gets it.
I don't think it's fair to generalize all people who play split screen or on guest accounts as stoners driving warthogs off of cliffs.
I play split screen and on guest accounts, and I don't teabag fusion coils the whole time. My friends and I have fun and try to win. EDIT: But I guess being in high school means I'm not a valid example?
Although I think one of the solutions to this could just be to bring back RBTB. Loved that list.
I play split screen and on guest accounts, and I don't teabag fusion coils the whole time. My friends and I have fun and try to win. EDIT: But I guess being in high school means I'm not a valid example?
Although I think one of the solutions to this could just be to bring back RBTB. Loved that list.
Slightly Live
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I can't believe it's gotten to the point where folks are pooping on one of the best features of Halo, even if I barely use it myself.
Ander, RBTB wouldn't solve this issue to the satisfaction of everyone here. You can play most Ranked games on splitscreen with two accounts on one Xbox. This would clearly not be good enough for some.
Reach has feature parity with Halo 3 so things like split screen and guests will be returning, like it or not.
What about letting just one friend hop on if I happen to have a friend over? If you seriously think adults can't have like minded friends in the same room at the same time wanting to play the same game, then you have issues. It's rare, but possible.
Ander, RBTB wouldn't solve this issue to the satisfaction of everyone here. You can play most Ranked games on splitscreen with two accounts on one Xbox. This would clearly not be good enough for some.
Reach has feature parity with Halo 3 so things like split screen and guests will be returning, like it or not.
Ramirez said:
What about letting just one friend hop on if I happen to have a friend over? If you seriously think adults can't have like minded friends in the same room at the same time wanting to play the same game, then you have issues. It's rare, but possible.
Thagomizer
Member
I can't imagine that Bungie wouldn't show any gameplay at x10, considering Reach is this year's flagship game, the beta comes out in a few months, and there have been several hints at something big there.
Also, Ghaleon never responds to PMs.
Also, Ghaleon never responds to PMs.
DiabolicalBagel
Member
So because he isn't having fun playing with guests no one is allowed to split-screen, no matter how much they enjoy it? That is ridiculous. Why is his fun more important than ours?Kuroyume said:
Anti: "I don't have fun so get rid of it!"
Pro: "Why are you more important than us? How about a filter that allows you to play without guests while still leaving us the option to split-screen?"
Anti: "NO! I DON'T HAVE FUN! IT MUST GO!"
What you fail to realize is that while you think we are only interested in our own enjoyment, we fully acknowledge and respect your opinion but don't wish for our own enjoyment to be sacrificed just so that you may have yours.Ramirez said:
That is something which we clearly do not have in common.
Why do you think I suggested the filter? It allows both parties of the arguement to have their fun. No sacrifices are made.
Thagomizer said:I can't imagine that Bungie wouldn't show any gameplay at x10, considering Reach is this year's flagship game, the beta comes out in a few months, and there have been several hints at something big there.
Also, Ghaleon never responds to PMs.
I believe he's taken already
Major Williams
Member
Because Bungie loves to separate the matchmaking field. /sarcasmDiabolicalBagel said:
That's why Halo 3 MM sucks sometimes because of this very reason (i.e. retired playlists, limited playlists).
Deputy Moonman
Member
I really hope that the BTB/Squadbattle games in Reach dont devolve into another vehicle/power-weapon orgy. Save that lame crap for social play. Vehicles have infested the game of Halo3. I just played some squad battle last night and this morning and it's just disgusting how the big games are all vehicles now. Whoever racks up the most kills in ghosts/warthogs/tanks wins the game.
I loved Halo for the fast paced shoot'em up style, and doing the 4v4 arena style games in an 8v8 setting was amazing. But not anymore. Get in a vehicle and dumb yourself down or you might as well not even bother.
How popular was HaloCE and how many vehicle maps were there? In Halo2, at least the individual had a chance against vehicles (ghost gas tank, rocket launcher tracked vehicles, one sticky blewup a warthog if i remember correctly, and even though I hated the weapon, default plasma pistols worked much better against vehicles too). Halo3, vehicles are supreme and it's a bunch of bullshit.
Why has there never been a BTB/Squadbattle ranked playlist that has no vehicles or very few? I'm baffled.
And while I'm ranting, I might as well say that the hunters in Halo2 and ODST are retarded. There is not a single quality about them that makes them fun to kill. Aiming for the barespots or trying to shoot them in the back was so much fun. But like many things that were removed from HaloCE for reasons unknown to fans, the ability to kill hunters in a fun manner was removed as well.
And that long drawn out green beam sound effect is the most annoying shit in the game, not to mention that the weapon is just plain stupid. It's sad that I'm putting Hunters on the same level as Brutes now (complete lack of fun).
About to do another game on live. Oh look! Sandtrap... again...
I loved Halo for the fast paced shoot'em up style, and doing the 4v4 arena style games in an 8v8 setting was amazing. But not anymore. Get in a vehicle and dumb yourself down or you might as well not even bother.
How popular was HaloCE and how many vehicle maps were there? In Halo2, at least the individual had a chance against vehicles (ghost gas tank, rocket launcher tracked vehicles, one sticky blewup a warthog if i remember correctly, and even though I hated the weapon, default plasma pistols worked much better against vehicles too). Halo3, vehicles are supreme and it's a bunch of bullshit.
Why has there never been a BTB/Squadbattle ranked playlist that has no vehicles or very few? I'm baffled.
And while I'm ranting, I might as well say that the hunters in Halo2 and ODST are retarded. There is not a single quality about them that makes them fun to kill. Aiming for the barespots or trying to shoot them in the back was so much fun. But like many things that were removed from HaloCE for reasons unknown to fans, the ability to kill hunters in a fun manner was removed as well.
And that long drawn out green beam sound effect is the most annoying shit in the game, not to mention that the weapon is just plain stupid. It's sad that I'm putting Hunters on the same level as Brutes now (complete lack of fun).
About to do another game on live. Oh look! Sandtrap... again...
The Librarian
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DiabolicalBagel said:
This whole debacle over splitscreen inclusion just shows how absurd the attitude of "you're either with me or your against me and if you don't agree with me you can fuck off" has gotten among some users. Your fun should never be valued over your own.
Jerk! The last PM I sent you was worthwhile.GhaleonEB said:
Dani said:
So rare that out of 8K+ matches, I think I've done it under 10 times.
Still not the point, you can keep it if you must, but like I've said a billion times, it has no place being in matchmaking aside from being seperate playlists.
Bagel, you don't even make sense man, how is your brilliant filter search any different from just making dedicated playlists?
DiabolicalBagel
Member
Major Williams said:
Indeed so, but it's the only thing I can think of that allows both the anti and pro split-screen folk to have the matchmaking experience they want with no sacrifices to either side. (longer matching times due to smaller player count excluded of course)
I guess you could make more playlists but that would just be cumbersome for the exact same ends.
Major Williams
Member
A massive pack of hunters with full upgrades in Halo Wars was so beastly and scary. Legitimately too, I actually feared massive packs of hunters whenever I played as forge. Similar to how they looked/felt in the Arbiter cartoon in Legends.
I hope that feeling is at least conveyed/ported into Reach. While the Hunter AI was superb as far as interaction goes, there was something missing... on legendary they were just hulking bullet magnets that were still slow.
I hope that feeling is at least conveyed/ported into Reach. While the Hunter AI was superb as far as interaction goes, there was something missing... on legendary they were just hulking bullet magnets that were still slow.
drop splitscreen bungie, this is 2010
who are the savages that still like huddling around a tv while barely having enough space on screen to aim
splitscreen pisses me off. when ever people come over and asks to play some game splitscreen with me, i tell them to buy a 360, go home and send me a party invite. and i just love it when i get 3 splitscreeners on the other side. guaranteed win + steak dinner
who are the savages that still like huddling around a tv while barely having enough space on screen to aim
splitscreen pisses me off. when ever people come over and asks to play some game splitscreen with me, i tell them to buy a 360, go home and send me a party invite. and i just love it when i get 3 splitscreeners on the other side. guaranteed win + steak dinner
Zedsdeadbaby
Banned
Lunchbox said:
Guess that's why the Wii failed miserably then
electricpirate
Member
Ramirez said:
here's why you are getting some pushback here.
You already have 8 playlists, more than half of the regular playlists, that don't allow guests at all. Of the remaining 7 regular playlists only 4 of those are unique to social, (Team mythic, team BTB, Multi team and action sack), and even in those, BTB is similar to team skirmish on ranked, and none of those are paticularly competitive gametypes.
So it's not that you are saying "hey you like this i don't, let's meet in the middle somewhere." Instead it's more like,
"Guys, I can have a slightly better time with more competitive games on 4 playlists that aren't really competitive if you would give up this feature that you obviously love and losing/severly resticting would make the game much worse for you."
See the issue there? No? Okay, here's a bad metaphor.
You are country A, we are country B, you ask us, country B to give you most our gasoline so you can have a slightly higher octane rating. That's why people think this is a terrible idea.
cool so im real happy for everyone who has only rich friends who can afford xboxes so they can play with each other but for me a lot of my friends are still in college and there is no way in hell that they can all afford to drop $200 on a gaming console. they just have to rely on that one kid who has one down the hall. and my friends may graduate and get jobs then be able to afford xboxes of their own but there will always be broke ass college kids getting together in a dorm room to play some halo.
anyways this arguement has been beaten to shit already so who's ready for some reach news
anyways this arguement has been beaten to shit already so who's ready for some reach news