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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

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Magni

Member
Some of you guys need to go check out the "Animosity on forums" thread.. I don't getting putting people on "Ignore" but some of you guys seem to love it, I'm probably on a couple of you guys' lists as well
I love you guys =(

Bungie, see what happens when you don't release any new info for more than three days? These are the dark consequences of going dark =(

vhfive said:
You rarely post anything relevant or add anything interesting.
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To be honest, I'd say over 50% of the post in this thread don't add anything relevant or interesting.
Though of course that doesn't mean everyone has the same ratio of worthless/relevant posts..

teh said:
How is the ODST community I thinking about buying it. Is it worth $60 ?

OR if I buy it used will I still be able to play the Reach beta? I just need the disk right.
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Do you have Halo 3? As already said, there really isn't an "ODST community" like there are for MP games..
 
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Major Williams

Member
All this discussion about posting quality is true. I would say back in his hay day, Voc would post maybe 5 times in a week, max. Sure a couple were joke posts, but I'd say 70% of his posts were meaty, and contributed some worthy discussion to the table. That's honestly what I strive to see here, and I myself try to bring to the table.
 
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EazyB

Banned
Domino Theory said:
The detail on the DMR, Needle Rifle, Sniper Rifle and Assault Rifle in first-person is UNREAL.

I'm surprised Bungie managed to gut their old engine so much to have the weapons change so much aesthetically. The difference between the AR from Halo 3 to Halo: Reach is night and day.
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It's hard to make comparisons between engines when looking at weapons like the AR that are changed so much from a design perspective. Better comparisons would be between weapons like the plasma pistol which haven't been redesigned:

Reach:
plasmapistol.png


Halo 3:
plasmapistol.jpg


Conclusion still the same though; pretty impressive.
 
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Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
EazyB said:
It's hard to make comparisons between engines when looking at weapons like the AR that are changed so much from a design perspective. Better comparisons would be between weapons like the plasma pistol which haven't been redesigned:

Reach:
plasmapistol.png


Halo 3:
plasmapistol.jpg


Conclusion still the same though; pretty impressive.
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A difference of a few million polygons between weapons says a lot about engine improvements, but yeah, the Plasma Pistol looks insane now.

I'm hoping it has the oomph to back up its new look. The same goes for the Plasma Rifle.

Edit: Also, happy page 343!
 
K

Kapura

Banned
Striker said:
Has there been any material about the Plasma Rifle? Either appearance change or how it evolved since Halo 3, and so on.
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Nope. The only Covenant weapon they've talked about in any sort of detail is the Needle Rifle. They've not said too much about the plasma pistol either besides a slight splash on overcharge. I hope they do what they did for Halo 3 and have sort of feature lists for a lot of the weapons. Those were fun.
 
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Demoncarnotaur

Member
Letters said:
Now that the elites will be the main enemies we fight, I'd like for the brutes to be included in campaign as the occasional "oh shit run!!!!!" kind of enemy.

[Scary Brute Pic]
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I agree. I would really like to see the Brutes take on a more frightening role in the game. I also vastly prefer that artistic style of the brute over the Halo 3 interpretation.



EazyB said:
It's hard to make comparisons between engines when looking at weapons like the AR that are changed so much from a design perspective. Better comparisons would be between weapons like the plasma pistol which haven't been redesigned:

Reach:
[pic]

Halo 3:
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Conclusion still the same though; pretty impressive.
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Artistic direction differences aside, that comparison really shows the level of increased detail. I have to say that it is very impressive. The new Plasma Pistol looks very dangerous now.
 
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Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Striker said:
Has there been any material about the Plasma Rifle? Either appearance change or how it evolved since Halo 3, and so on.
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All that's known right now is that you can only single wield it now and the plasma burns shields for a second after hitting the target.
 
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vhfive

Member
I love how all the weapon models from Reach seem worn and kinda beat up. They look like they have been used and not like they were fresh from the factory.
 
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electricpirate

Member
Striker said:
Has there been any material about the Plasma Rifle? Either appearance change or how it evolved since Halo 3, and so on.
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Very little info on it so far, But if you watch how it's used in the vidoc though from the Vidoc and MP trailer it appears to have a MUCH lower ROF. I'm sure that's possible to see a big change, but since it was really slow in both instances, I have a feeling the PR is going to be more of it's own beast, and less of a covenant AR this time around.
 
M

Magni

Member
electricpirate said:
Very little info on it so far, But if you watch how it's used in the vidoc though from the Vidoc and MP trailer it appears to have a MUCH lower ROF. I'm sure that's possible to see a big change, but since it was really slow in both instances, I have a feeling the PR is going to be more of it's own beast, and less of a covenant AR this time around.
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As long as they bring back the stun effect.. One of the many things that disappeared from the series after H1, for the worst..

So much info still waiting to be revealed, and the beta starts in 53 days :D
 
M

Major Williams

Member
Demoncarnotaur said:
I agree. I would really like to see the Brutes take on a more frightening role in the game. I also vastly prefer that artistic style of the brute over the Halo 3 interpretation.
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Definitely.

However, even in Halo Wars, with Ensemble's great talent, and the oversight of Frankie et. al., the brutes didn't depart from what was already established and weren't scary even in the early war. I doubt we're going to see *scary* cave-man brutes.

They'll always be in packs, and because of the general gaming population going up against an entire pack, I couldn't see them being much tougher than the pack in Halo 3 in Crow's nest with the Brute Chieftain at the top. That part was tough, insanely tough for people like my fiancee (and nearly impossible on Legendary even in a group of her friends). For us GAFfers, in a group, it was a cakewalk. So for us, I think the brutes won't be much tougher, if at all.

I really hope I'm wrong though.
 
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Hydranockz

Member
Major Williams said:
They'll always be in packs, and because of the general gaming population going up against an entire pack, I couldn't see them being much tougher than the pack in Halo 3 in Crow's nest with the Brute Chieftain at the top. That part was tough, insanely tough for people like my fiancee (and nearly impossible on Legendary even in a group of her friends). For us GAFfers, in a group, it was a cakewalk. So for us, I think the brutes won't be much tougher, if at all.

I really hope I'm wrong though.
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That was one of my highlights playing the campaign. I got to that point with not a whole lot of ammo. I must have died abot 15 times at least. Every single time the scenario played out differently (only in Halo could that happen)! It was truly satisfying to get past it!

Brutes in MP would certainly be a secret worth hiding from us for now... but a boy can dream on :p
 
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Demoncarnotaur

Member
Major Williams said:
Definitely.

However, even in Halo Wars, with Ensemble's great talent, and the oversight of Frankie et. al., the brutes didn't depart from what was already established and weren't scary even in the early war. I doubt we're going to see *scary* cave-man brutes.

They'll always be in packs, and because of the general gaming population going up against an entire pack, I couldn't see them being much tougher than the pack in Halo 3 in Crow's nest with the Brute Chieftain at the top. That part was tough, insanely tough for people like my fiancee (and nearly impossible on Legendary even in a group of her friends). For us GAFfers, in a group, it was a cakewalk. So for us, I think the brutes won't be much tougher, if at all.

I really hope I'm wrong though.
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Well from a difficulty standpoint I agree, the Brutes most likely will not change too dramatically. But that said, I would still like to see the Brutes at the very least act more intimidating, and of course behave different from elites.

And of course from the artistic standpoint, with Reach attempting to make the covenant look scarier, I think now would be the perfect time to revamp the Brutes to their original image.

Just imagine that thing snarling and barking as it throws marines out of its way to get to you. Then imagine a small pack doing that.
 
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teh

Banned
vhfive said:
I love how all the weapon models from Reach seem worn and kinda beat up. They look like they have been used and not like they were fresh from Toys R' Us.
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I agree, thats one of the things thats so bangin about Reach imo.
 
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Major Williams

Member
Demoncarnotaur said:
Well from a difficulty standpoint I agree, the Brutes most likely will not change too dramatically. But that said, I would still like to see the Brutes at the very least act more intimidating, and of course behave different from elites.

And of course from the artistic standpoint, with Reach attempting to make the covenant look scarier, I think now would be the perfect time to revamp the Brutes to their original image.

Just imagine that thing snarling and barking as it throws marines out of its way to get to you. Then imagine a small pack doing that.
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Couldn't agree more my friend. I want to see more than a forearm swipe for their beatdown animation, honestly. I understand they have a few more animations, but how that passed QA is beyond me.

And they look so unnatural when they run around in their beast mode.
 
K

Kapura

Banned
GRITTY GUNS HERN HERN HERN SPLOOGE

In all seriousness, the detail on the models compared to the Halo 3 models makes them look like Halo 1 guns. Good to see Bungie has learned to 360 goodlier.
 
T

The Librarian

Banned
EazyB said:
I'm not sure you understand what "outlier" means. There being a handful of people who post more often than you on a forum with 30k+ people doesn't quite cut it :lol
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:lol @ 30K+ people posting on GAF. There are a lot of people on this forum with ~20 ppd on GAF, I gave you the link - all you gotta do is look.

I can't speak for Blue but I don't think anyone would bring it up
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Nobody brings it up at all except for him.

vhfive said:
I love how all the weapon models from Reach seem worn and kinda beat up. They look like they have been used and not like they were fresh from the factory.
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Yep. Definitely adds a more realistic feeling to the game.

And hopefully the plasma pistol is as deadly as its look.
 
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big ander

Member
thetrin said:
How can there be an underage HaloGAF? That makes no sense to me. That would mean you were 11 at the very oldest when Halo 1 came out.
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17 here. I was 9 when CE released. Played it every weekend at a friends.
clashfan said:
Ovaltine?
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Nesquik.
EazyB said:
It's hard to make comparisons between engines when looking at weapons like the AR that are changed so much from a design perspective. Better comparisons would be between weapons like the plasma pistol which haven't been redesigned:

Reach:
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/intel/weapons/plasmapistol.png[IMG]

Halo 3:
[IMG]http://www.bungie.net/images/News/WeeklyUpdate/plasmapistol.jpg[IMG]

Conclusion still the same though; pretty impressive.[/quote]
Wow. I hadn't noticed how detailed (and frightening) the PP looked now. I also hope it's really effective now.
I was telling one of my friends how the goal with the weapon sandbox in Reach was to give every weapon purpose. He got really excited and said that an awesome, unique and powerful weapons sandbox combined with armor abilities made this an insta-buy after he skipped 3 and ODST.

What's with all the hate halogaf?
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
OMGGG page 343

Also, thanks for watching my stream HaloGAF. Make sure you come back when I've returned to true form and am shitting on everything that moves. :D
 
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Blueblur1

Member
...Here are some tweets taken from Twitter, Jeff Green was at a "fireside chat" Joe Staten participated in:

At another fireside chat. Still no fire. This one is with Dr Ray Muzyka of BioWare and Joseph Staten of Bungie.Hosted by Mr. Geoff Keighley about 3 hours ago via web

The title of this particular fireless fireside chat is: "Building a Blockbuster Franchise." about 3 hours ago via web

Joe Staten says: "Bungie had no plan." :)

"Halo from the very beginning was more an IP than just a game.It was a universe where we could do anything, not just shooters." -Staten #gdc about 2 hours ago via web

"For us it's not that we *have* to do sequels [because of corporate pressure], we enjoy doing them. We like them too." --Staten #gdc about 2 hours ago via web

"If you try to build a franchise around a single character, that can be a problem. If you build it around world, anything is possible." about 2 hours ago via web

last tweet was re: Joseph Staten of Bungie. #gdc about 2 hours ago via web
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Stormtrooper30

Member
Am I the only one hoping they get rid of the annoying push-to-talk feature that's been in H2 and H3? I mean, we all just use partychat because of it and that should use the same amount of bandwith as the ingame chat, right?

Total Posts: 621 (1.35 posts per day) Do I win?
 
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Thermite

Member
vhfive said:
I love how all the weapon models from Reach seem worn and kinda beat up. They look like they have been used and not like they were fresh from the factory.
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Agreed. I'm really loving the super gritty look everything seems to have.
 
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Sai-kun

Banned
I keep thinking that May 3rd is really frakkin' far away. But Pokemon HS/SS is coming out Sunday. Any other HaloGAFfers picking it up? :D

We're almost halfway through march!
 
R

riceandbeans

Member
EazyB said:
It's hard to make comparisons between engines when looking at weapons like the AR that are changed so much from a design perspective. Better comparisons would be between weapons like the plasma pistol which haven't been redesigned:

Reach:

Halo 3:

Conclusion still the same though; pretty impressive.
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Halo 3's Plasma gun almost looks last-gen compared to Reach.

More particle effects plz.
 
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FilthyLies

Member
Stormtrooper30 said:
Am I the only one hoping they get rid of the annoying push-to-talk feature that's been in H2 and H3? I mean, we all just use partychat because of it and that should use the same amount of bandwith as the ingame chat, right?

Total Posts: 621 (1.35 posts per day) Do I win?
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Me and some friends went back to play some Halo 2 before the servers get shut down (how that game is still so beastly amazes me), and none of us could deal with the push to talk :lol At least in Halo 3 PTK is only in games higher than 6v6 (5v5?). In Halo 2 it's in EVERY gametype and you can't bypass it with party chat cause you can't use party chat in original xbox games :(

I just really hope Reach doesn't go the MW2 route of locking out party chat because that sucks so bad.
 
Kibbles

Kibbles

Member
EazyB said:
It's hard to make comparisons between engines when looking at weapons like the AR that are changed so much from a design perspective. Better comparisons would be between weapons like the plasma pistol which haven't been redesigned:

Reach:
plasmapistol.png


Halo 3:
plasmapistol.jpg


Conclusion still the same though; pretty impressive.
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Looks more detailed, but the textures don't seem high-res enough. It just looks pixelated and weird. Sort of like CoD: Far away it may look good, but up close...
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Sai-kun said:
I keep thinking that May 3rd is really frakkin' far away. But Pokemon HS/SS is coming out Sunday. Any other HaloGAFfers picking it up? :D

We're almost halfway through march!
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I want to get it but there are like 3234589347 games I want first.
 
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vhfive

Member
FilthyLies said:
Me and some friends went back to play some Halo 2 before the servers get shut down (how that game is still so beastly amazes me), and none of us could deal with the push to talk :lol At least in Halo 3 PTK is only in games higher than 6v6 (5v5?). In Halo 2 it's in EVERY gametype and you can't bypass it with party chat cause you can't use party chat in original xbox games :(

I just really hope Reach doesn't go the MW2 route of locking out party chat because that sucks so bad.
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hahaha dude it took me about 5 games when I went back a couple months ago before I finally figured it out.
as long as there's an easy mute button i never want push to talk.

Sai-kun said:
I keep thinking that May 3rd is really frakkin' far away. But Pokemon HS/SS is coming out Sunday. Any other HaloGAFfers picking it up? :D

We're almost halfway through march!
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Hell yea just been playing around with my platinum version in preparation. It will hopefully keep me preoccupied until May 3 (well that and the blur beta).

kylej said:
We won this game 50-49 so I feel ok posting this.

http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=107733412&rfilm=107733499

The score was tied 47-47 when this occurred. My teammate had fresh rockets.

This is why I will always be a BK.
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:lol :lol
 
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A Penguin

Member
big ander said:
17 here. I was 9 when CE released. Played it every weekend at a friends.
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I think I first played CE when I was 11. I couldn't get past the first level. Then my friends and I tried playing MP, I think we got motion sickness or something and never touched the game again.
Halo 2, on the other hand, we played quite a bit of. I was always the best even though I didn't own the game :D
 
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Stormtrooper30

Member
FilthyLies said:
Me and some friends went back to play some Halo 2 before the servers get shut down (how that game is still so beastly amazes me), and none of us could deal with the push to talk :lol At least in Halo 3 PTK is only in games higher than 6v6 (5v5?). In Halo 2 it's in EVERY gametype and you can't bypass it with party chat cause you can't use party chat in original xbox games :(

I just really hope Reach doesn't go the MW2 route of locking out party chat because that sucks so bad.
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This. OMG that shit is so annoying in COD. I never play XBL alone anymore and don't want to listen to all the garbage that people say while I'm trying to talk to my party.

I never really noticed the push to tlak in H2, mainly because it was my first real XBL MP game (besides Battlefront). In H3 it just really bugs me. I think the voices in H2 are kinda broken to begin with though. Game is stil fun as hell.

Kylej said:
The score was tied 47-47 when this occurred. My teammate had fresh rockets.
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:lol
 
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Syracuse022

Member
kylej said:
We won this game 50-49 so I feel ok posting this.

http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=107733412&rfilm=107733499

The score was tied 47-47 when this occurred. My teammate had fresh rockets.

This is why I will always be a BK.
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Epic. Let me guess, pulled that one out of the Tom Taylor instructional videos?
Link plz - I am still a way worse bk

godhandiscen said:
PC version uses the Xbox 360 controller, it runs on any kind of computer, and there is even mods that make it look better than Halo 2.
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Good god man, you can't say shit like that and not post a link. Where is this mythical beast? If people on Halo PC were inclined to play something besides Blood Gulch (and if Gearbox had hooked a brother up with some auto-aim when playing with the controller - I am mouse illiterate), I would probably not own another game to this day...
 
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Thagomizer

Member
I must be the only one who loves push to talk. I like not having to constantly toggle mute on my mic. I have a cheap one with the mute on a dongle on the cord, so it's kind of a PITA.
 
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Apath

Member
Kibbles said:
Looks more detailed, but the textures don't seem high-res enough. It just looks pixelated and weird. Sort of like CoD: Far away it may look good, but up close...
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I'm not seeing it =P

The difference is so huge to me that I thought the Halo 3 PP was the Halo 1 one.
 
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big ander

Member
Digital-Hero said:
I feel older. I help test the original Halo: CE at Microsoft when I was 21. I turn 30 in 3 months.
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Testing CE would have been so awesome. See, I would have loved to have been there at the start.

This thread is making me feel like a little kid. :p
 
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