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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Kibbles

Kibbles

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Speaking of the Halo 2 engine, superjumps were quite the thing. Having to crouch and run in a spot and then jump into a certain spot was like a little mini platforming game. It was very interesting that you had to do this little ritual before jumping. Good stuff.

Sabotage said:
Almost there.....

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Jiggle wiggle jiggle wiggle.

LOVE IT. :D
 
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FilthyLies

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Smokey said:
In what order should the books be read?
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Fall of Reach-->First Strike-->Ghosts of Onyx

that should give you the Spartan story pretty completely. Cole Protocol is more or less throwaway, the Flood just retells the story of Combat Evolved, and Contact Harvest deals with the start of the war.
 
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The Librarian

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Smokey said:
In what order should the books be read?
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Chronologically?

Contact Harvest -> The Cole Protocol -> Fall of Reach -> The Flood -> First Strike -> Ghosts of Onyx -> Evolutions.

Edit - The Flood is a retelling of Halo: CE, but The Flood has Yapyap.:D
 
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Deadly

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Lostconfused said:
I think you are misunderstanding. What I was trying to say was that Jorge made the comment about "I thought no one survived pegasi" which is really weird since we are assuming he is a spartan II and he shouldn't know anything about Spartan IIIs or their missions. While Carter clears it up for him, and then later he mentions that he read through the LWG file, which makes sense because Carter is the leader of the team.
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He probably just informed the rest of the bunch about their new recruit. Emphasis on teamwork and knowing each other I suppose.
 
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Blueblur1

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EazyB said:
I really hope they don't revert back to the H1 system for MP in Reach. The jumping is fine in H2/3 and if anything the game should be sped up a bit back to H2 levels. I'm cool with fall damage but make it require a much greater fall than H1. Maybe make a recovery animation that'll show the character down for a sec after landing to balance it a bit if they really find it necessary.

As for the health system, all signs point to them using the two bars (shield and health) with only the shield regenerating but I really don't want to have to walk around maps looking for health packs. They made the conscious decision to exclude the non-regenerating health bar from 2 and then 3, did they think it wasn't successful or what? The shit was annoying in ODST (even disregarding the red tint and audio) and every other shooter has seen how well regenerating shields work and copied Bungie. Why can't Bungie copy Bungie?
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I agree with you even though I enjoyed ODST's subtle changes. It would be fun to experience gameplay as an S-III but I would prefer to have my multiplayer experience upgraded and not hindered by player character changes such as the ones that I mentioned.
 
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jamaniek

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Dax01 said:
Chronologically?

Contact Harvest -> The Cole Protocol -> Fall of Reach -> The Flood -> First Strike -> Ghosts of Onyx -> Evolutions.
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Nice. That's a lot of text to read. I'm at 195th page of "Fall of Reach" at the moment :)
 
Kibbles

Kibbles

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Proelite said:
If they were Spartan IIIs, won't they be like 17 years old maximum? Don't tell me that war and stress has that much of an aging effect.
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Maybe "number 6" is the only Spartan III and maybe that's why his tag is unidentified. (000 from the license plate, and there is no designated number on his armor)
 
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FilthyLies

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Kibbles said:
Maybe your guy is the only Spartan III.
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I think that's the conclusion that's been reached- the rest of the squad is Spartan-IIs, mostly from the second class.

But I dunno this thread moves fucking fast :p
 
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Revelations

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Kibbles said:
Maybe "number 6" is the only Spartan III and maybe that's why his tag is unidentified. (000 from the license plate, and there is no designated number on his armor)
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Can't be, some of them have 200 number designations.
 
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Revelations

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FilthyLies said:
I think that's the conclusion that's been reached- the rest of the squad is Spartan-IIs, mostly from the second class.

But I dunno this thread moves fucking fast :p
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I thought all of the second class Spartan II's died?

Just to be clear we are taking about a second batch after the first 150 right?
 
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RefigeKru

Banned
Don't really care with this until I see some gameplay. ^^

Hopefully I'll be able to get a new 360 and ODST to get into the beta next year.
 
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Smokey

Member
FilthyLies said:
Fall of Reach-->First Strike-->Ghosts of Onyx

that should give you the Spartan story pretty completely. Cole Protocol is more or less throwaway, the Flood just retells the story of Combat Evolved, and Contact Harvest deals with the start of the war.
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Cool. I ordered the 3 pack earlier today from amazon. Guess I'll pick up Onyx later.
 
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Rad Agast

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Lostconfused said:
I think you are misunderstanding. What I was trying to say was that Jorge made the comment about "I thought no one survived pegasi" which is really weird since we are assuming he is a spartan II and he shouldn't know anything about Spartan IIIs or their missions. While Carter clears it up for him, and then later he mentions that he read through the LWG file, which makes sense because Carter is the leader of the team.
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Wasn't there an off-hand remark regarding a new Spartan Program in the Fall of Reach? (I might be imagining things here). Pure speculation ahead:

Since Operation TORPEDO was 7 years prior to this scene, some one must have heard some thing regarding that operation and word spread out through the UNSC but no one knew that any Spartan IIIs survived the mission. At least I can imagine that being the official word from ONI HQ.

Why would Jorge know that this new guy is a Spartan III who was at Pegasi? The way I see it, Spartan IIs all lived together and know each other pretty well. It's easy for them to spot a new guy and they're not the dumb automatons other UNSC soldiers seem to think they are (we know this already from the books) so he put 1 + 2 together. Why didn't Carter tell his team that a Spartan III was joining the team? I don't know, maybe it's a need to know thing. In Halo 3: ODST, the rest of the team didn't know who Dare was until they met her right? (or am I forgetting some thing regarding the opening scene in that game too?).

That's all I have for now. It's 1:08 am and I need to get some sleep. I'll catch up with you guys and this thread tomorrow afternoon.
 
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big ander

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MagniHarvald said:
Quick question : LWG means what? Lone Wolf Guy?
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Yep.

Zeouterlimits said:
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:lol :lol

Oh god, that's vaguely creepy.
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Is the head...impaled on the fist? what the

Smokey said:
Cool. I ordered the 3 pack earlier today from amazon. Guess I'll pick up Onyx later.
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Onyx edges out Reach as my favorite. It's really very good. Haven't read Contact Harvest, Cole Protocol, or Evolutions yet though. I should be picking them up around Christmas.
 
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Lostconfused

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Rad Agast said:
The way I see it, Spartan IIs all lived together and know each other pretty well. It's easy for them to spot a new guy and they're not the dumb automatons other UNSC soldiers seem to think they are so he put 1 + 2 together.
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That's pretty reasonable. Still I would think that ONI would try to suppress all the information about what happened on Pegasi.
 
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FilthyLies

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Revelations said:
I thought all of the second class Spartan II's died?

Just to be clear we are taking about a second batch after the first 150 right?
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Class-II has never really been confirmed or denied- it was mentioned in the ilovebees ARG and the Spartan in DOA4 was supposedly from Class-II, but it was never really referenced aside from that, which made it rather unclear what it's official status in canon was.

With these dudes showing up in Reach they're pretty much confirmed, barring some S-III retcon
 
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Trasher

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FilthyLies said:
Class-II has never really been confirmed or denied- it was mentioned in the ilovebees ARG and the Spartan in DOA4 was supposedly from Class-II, but it was never really referenced aside from that, which made it rather unclear what it's official status in canon was.

With these dudes showing up in Reach they're pretty much confirmed, barring some S-III retcon
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Is this Class-II info on Halopedia accurate though?

After the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans; her efforts, however, ran into problems. There were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance and construction; leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531, the majority of her funds had been diverted and she was forced to postpone the effort indefinitely.[4]

Around six years later, however, it seems that enough candidates within the right age were numerous enough to begin a second class.
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What book mentions this second class?
 
Proelite

Proelite

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Can you change it so that he enters the door, pauses, and then exits? Might be good for the gaf meme if works out well.
 
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EazyB

Banned
Kibbles said:
Can anyone back up what this guy is saying? Something with smoothing out the edges into the surrounding area that effectively looks like has AA to the human eye, but it really doesn't. o_O

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=957303
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He had me going for a bit... until this:

Halo 3 actually looked better than the E32006 trailer (minus the realtime visor reflection, which had to be dropped).
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Edit: Looking at it further, the blurry outline seems to be a product of HDR lighting and not any fancy smancy "human eye exploitation." Then again I'm no expert.
 
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FFChris

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Not a Jellyfish said:
All speculation what that guy is saying, pretty sure he is talking out of his ass. :lol
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I'm not too sure, if you read his comments on the article he goes into more detail on what he is talking about regarding the AA. Seems like he knows roughly what he's going on about, just isn't expressed very well in the first post.
 
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Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
FFChris said:
I'm not too sure, if you read his comments on the article he goes into more detail on what he is talking about regarding the AA. Seems like he knows roughly what he's going on about, just isn't expressed very well in the first post.
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Knowing roughly what your going on about is not showing any technical knowledge at all. Doesn't take much to say they are blurring something. lol Just saying the guy is making an observation based on no facts. Just a speculation.
 
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Shake Appeal

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Kibbles said:
Can anyone back up what this guy is saying? Something with smoothing out the edges into the surrounding area that effectively looks like has AA to the human eye, but it really doesn't. o_O
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Shake Appeal said:
You should take that "technical dissection" with a pinch of salt. Actually, a bag of salt. A pillar of salt, if you will.
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Yyyup.
 
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Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Who gives a flying fuck how the AA technique is done; as long as I don't see an abnormal amount of jaggies during gameplay, I'm satisfied.

EazyB said:
Yuck, don't like the sound of any of that. Still too early to call though. Hoping for some spectacularly vibrant Covie playspaces and Valhalla-esque greenery.
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I'm sure Bungie will still have vibrant colors going on, but this time, it seems to only be in places where it's necessary (Covenant ships, Covenant weapons, certain Spartan Armor, specific mutliplayer maps, etc.) instead of having every other piece of geometry, weapon or vehicle be purple, green and blue. :p

I'm actually loving what that "source" has said. The Fall of Reach is a grim, violent and big-fucking-deal.

God I'm loving every fucking thing that's been shown, being shown and being talked about for Halo: Reach.
 
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AdventureRacing

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Hopefully they don't go for a really dark game like gears. The market is already saturated with them. Halo actually offers something different.

I guess we will have to wait and see.
 
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Trasher

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Domino Theory said:
Who gives a flying fuck how the AA technique is done; as long as I don't see an abnormal amount of jaggies during gameplay, I'm satisfied.
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I so would photoshop Kat's head onto your avatar if I had the software to do it. :(
 
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Deadly

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Trasher said:
Is this Class-II info on Halopedia accurate though?

What book mentions this second class?
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In Ghosts of Onyx it further confirms that information saying Halsey postponed the project and her funds were diverted. But, AFAIK, that's all we know about the second class of Spartan II's. The six years later stuff must be pure speculation.
 
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