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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Nutter said:
I still stand by a matchmaking ban for as long as the game you just quit out of is not finished.

Sure you will have bad games where you want to quit out, but hey, if its really that bad then the rest of your team mates are likely to quit out as well, meaning that the game will be finished soon. So I say give everyone a matchmaking ban until said game is finished, and after 3 quits in a day then a 15 minute ban.
I think Bungie is going to have to do something like this. I mean, they can't take away EXP anymore because they've thrown that out.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
GhaleonEB said:
Might as well spell out my take on MLG so as to dispell any misunderstanding: I have no beef with MLG, but enjoy ribbing them on occasion because proponents can be a bit sensitive, and I'm a dick like that. I enjoy watching it because it's often a display of pure skill that I only dream of, and the mere fact that MLG and BTB both exist in one game is a testament to how broad and customizable a game Halo is, and I think that's a good thing. I do not enjoy playing it, as it strips out much of what I enjoy about Halo. Which is fine, since I'm not ever forced to. But often when MLG-type settings show up in GAF customs (no radar, BR-only starts), I leave for the night rather than play it because to me, it's where fun goes to die. (That and Standoff Heavies.)

Oh come on really? You can't suck it up for 1 game? Everyone knows I really only play MLG games but GAF customs are definitely not that. Sure I bitch and moan when Dani throws on Leap Frog lol but I still play through. But hey, I'm not trying to force you to do anything.

As for MLG for Reach, I really hope that Bungie includes a Foundry/Sandbox type map at launch because I really don't see Reach having many 4v4 sized arena style maps. :/
 

Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Wait, so I need to ask you fellows. Is there like, new info in this thread or do you guys just chit chat in here?

Everytime I pop in here, you guys are just talking about random stuff. I can never tell when new info is out!
 
Dax01 said:
I think Bungie is going to have to do something like this. I mean, they can't take away EXP anymore because they've thrown that out.

They can get rid of credits, but would anyone really care?

Didnt they impliment a system in Halo 3 where they match quitters up with other quitters? I seem to remember reading that somewhere? It would add to matchmaking times but would be worth it. Shame it wont help with 'Idlers' though.


EvaPlusMinus said:
Wait, so I need to ask you fellows. Is there like, new info in this thread or do you guys just chit chat in here?

Everytime I pop in here, you guys are just talking about random stuff. I can never tell when new info is out!

Bungie just confirmed a Teletubbys/ Halo crossover. Speculation is that it will just be higher gravity - Jetpack only, plasma pistols and will only effect multiplayer, but if it seeps into story mode this could be epic.
 
bobs99 ... said:
They can get rid of credits, but would anyone really care?

Didnt they impliment a system in Halo 3 where they match quitters up with other quitters? I seem to remember reading that somewhere? It would add to matchmaking times but would be worth it. Shame it wont help with 'Idlers' though.
That's essentially the same as taking away EXP, and that didn't do much to deter quitting.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Tashi0106 said:
Oh come on really? You can't suck it up for 1 game? Everyone knows I really only play MLG games but GAF customs are definitely not that.
I was in the process of making an edit, but had to bolt to a meeting. Customs rotate through all kinds of stuff and I'm fine with that - that's as it should be. I like the mix, the wacky game types, the BTB, the slayer, and yes the more hardcore settings, as part of that mix. Nearly all of my Halo preferences are shaped by what I am good at, and I don't mind taking a pounding on occasion to play something others enjoy. That's part of the fun. My post above was worded poorly.

But enough about me. :)

Tomorrow is going to be a good day.
 
Nutter said:
I still stand by a matchmaking ban for as long as the game you just quit out of is not finished.

Sure you will have bad games where you want to quit out, but hey, if its really that bad then the rest of your team mates are likely to quit out as well, meaning that the game will be finished soon. So I say give everyone a matchmaking ban until said game is finished, and after 3 quits in a day then a 15 minute ban.

I agree with this. I hate when people quit out just because the other team scored once. All is not lost. wtf is wrong with people? It's called making a comeback and it happens all the time.
 

Dirtbag

Member
Kapura said:
MLG will allow no AAs, guaranteed.

I don't agree. I think sprint will be allowed, at least definitely in team slayer.
What I don't see happening is having multiple AA's available in 1 game, I think everyone will always have the same AA's for a level playing field.
 
EvaPlusMinus said:
Wait, so I need to ask you fellows. Is there like, new info in this thread or do you guys just chit chat in here?

Everytime I pop in here, you guys are just talking about random stuff. I can never tell when new info is out!

It's more of a Halo blogosphere with a weird off-topic immunity by the mods. Complaints usually are buried under all the Halo 3 talk.

I can't imagine going into the Mario Galaxy 2 thread and wading through pages and pages of SMB3 talk and everything-else-mario etc. to see new pics and info. It sucks a little.
 

Kapura

Banned
Dirtbag said:
I don't agree. I think sprint will be allowed, at least definitely in team slayer.
What I don't see happening is having multiple AA's available in 1 game, I think everyone will always have the same AA's for a level playing field.
Why? They allowed no equip, why sprint?
 

Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
FunkyMunkey said:
It's more of a Halo blogosphere with a weird off-topic immunity by the mods. Complaints usually are buried under all the Halo 3 talk.

I can't imagine going into the Mario Galaxy 2 thread and wading through pages and pages of SMB3 talk and everything-else-mario etc. to see new pics and info. It sucks a little.


Guess I'll just steer from here unless I'm sure new stuff is out or something.
 
Kapura said:
Why? They allowed no equip, why sprint?

I don't think they'll allow AAs either, but the difference between equipment and AAs is that only one person can have equipment at a time. AAs are more blanced in this sense. Personally, I think Equipment is kind of like a power weapon, if used properly. MLG should have never taken it out in the first place. But hey, I don't really like playing MLG gametypes in the first place. Maybe I'm biased.
 
FunkyMunkey said:
It's more of a Halo blogosphere with a weird off-topic immunity by the mods. Complaints usually are buried under all the Halo 3 talk.

I can't imagine going into the Mario Galaxy 2 thread and wading through pages and pages of SMB3 talk and everything-else-mario etc. to see new pics and info. It sucks a little.

No ones forcing you to read through it all, if you just want Halo info check this place every day (infact its updated many multiple times a day):

Halo.Bungie.org

Its like a newsfeed of Halo info. This isnt a newsfeed this is a thread, and the Halo games have a big amount of backstory and just general conversation areas attributed with them, a lot of conversations are gonna happen.
 

Nutter

Member
Kapura said:
Why? They allowed no equip, why sprint?
Because unlike other AA's sprint does not allow shooting, or a temporary immunity to all shots being fired at you.

FunkyMunkey said:
It's more of a Halo blogosphere with a weird off-topic immunity by the mods. Complaints usually are buried under all the Halo 3 talk.

I can't imagine going into the Mario Galaxy 2 thread and wading through pages and pages of SMB3 talk and everything-else-mario etc. to see new pics and info. It sucks a little.
We here at haloGAF are only allowed 1 thread for all Halo related news/infomation. [i.e just a couple weeks ago someone started another thread about the new vidoc and a mod closed it down because people were complaining how there are 2 threads relating to halo on the first page] So because we are limited to 1 thread on GAF it has become the everything about halo thread. News, complaings, story, information, mathcmaking, theater, screenshots everything has its place in here. So please dont act like you cant find your news in here, this is a discussion thread, if you so desire to get your news then head on over to bungie.net or something.
 

Voltron64

Member
bobs99 ... said:
I have to agree with Ghaleon on this one, no radar sucks and is only good in MLG because of the communication that inherantly comes with that mode.

Standard customs should NEVER be no radar in my opinion.

bobs99 ... said:
Let me just re-iterate the rest of my post as this idiot decided to cut out all the context.

In Gaf customs theres such a mismatch of teams and general lack of communication that no radars just doesnt work. It only works so well in MLG because to counter the lack of radar people communicate.

And so when playing crazy Gaf customs, Radars should always be on.
Wow, I'm an idiot for finding your broad statement about how a custom match should be played funny? Are we talking about GAF customs here or standard customs?

Serious business.
 
Kapura said:
Why? They allowed no equip, why sprint?
Read their articles on the gametypes, they go into detail on why each piece of equipment was removed. Generally they were either pointless or overpowered for mlg gametypes. Sprint shouldn't be neither, as it mostly does things mlg likes: speeding up the game, and making it easier to contest objectives.
 
bobs99 ... said:
No ones forcing you to read through it all, if you just want Halo info check this place every day:

Halo.Bungie.org

Its like a newsfeed of Halo info. This isnt a newsfeed this is a thread, and the Halo games have a big amount of backstory and just general conversation areas attributed with them, a lot of conversations are gonna happen.

That whole thing kinda falls apart when there are over 27000 posts here. I don't know any godlike person who has the patience to read through that. The OP is decently updated, but seeing a grotesque amount of pages dedicated to beards and oonsk or w.e sucks. Every other thread is whipped by the justice fists of the mods on Olympus, and it's frustrating that one of the few dedicated threads I would actually be interested in keeping up on, is immune and anything but actually dedicated.

Nutter said:
We here at haloGAF are only allowed 1 thread for all Halo related news/infomation. [i.e just a couple weeks ago someone started another thread about the new vidoc and a mod closed it down because people were complaining how there are 2 threads relating to halo on the first page] So because we are limited to 1 thread on GAF it has become the everything about halo thread. News, complaings, story, information, mathcmaking, theater, screenshots everything has its place in here. So please dont act like you cant find your news in here, this is a discussion thread, if you so desire to get your news then head on over to bungie.net or something.

That's really cool that Halo gets it's very own anything-Halo thread, where we ignore what the thread title says completely.

I'm assuming there are dedicated Mario-universe, Metal Gear-universe, Zelda-universe, etc. general discussion threads to make your argument valid, right? Or Halo gets a free pass?
 
Voltron64 said:
Wow, I'm an idiot for finding your broad statement about how a custom match should be played funny? Are we talking about GAF customs here or standard customs?

Serious business.

Ah sorry I guess my original post was more ambigious than I thaught it was. To be fair I was responding to Ghal who was talking about Gaf customs. So yeah my post was about Gaf customs, which tend to have mismatched teams and little communication.

Either way sorry about the idiot remark, but I hate being misquoted in real life or the internet, serious business indeed :lol


FunkyMunkey to be fair im shocked that more general chit chat doesnt go on in other game threads. I guess HaloGaf is more of a community than they are? Either way this is a forum, not a newsfeed, so people talking about beards is going to happen, especially when the beards are related to the Reach vidoc :D I will agree the beard stuff is going on stupid, but the point is this thread will get derailed a lot, which if fine by me because thats far more natural than any of the other threads are.
 

Nutter

Member
FunkyMunkey said:
That whole thing kinda falls apart when there are over 27000 posts here. I don't know any godlike person who has the patience to read through that. The OP is decently updated, but seeing a grotesque amount of pages dedicated to beards and oonsk or w.e sucks. Every other thread is whipped by the justice fists of the mods on Olympus, and it's frustrating that one of the few dedicated threads I would actually be interested in keeping up on, is immune and anything but actually dedicated.



That's really cool that Halo gets it's very own anything-Halo thread, where we ignore what the thread title says completely.

I'm assuming there are dedicated Mario-universe, Metal Gear-universe, Zelda-universe, etc. general discussion threads to make your argument valid, right? Or Halo gets a free pass?
Ok smartass, how many halo threads do you see on GAF? vs, the various different mario game's threads. We had a Halo 3 discussion thread, it was closed down. If we still had that thread, you wouldnt see a whole lot of halo3 discussion in this thread. However I will agree that the Beard, oonsk shit got out of hand. I am all for keep that shit away from the thread cuz its just plain stupid.
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Nutter said:
However I will agree that the Beard, oonsk shit got out of hand. I am all for keep that shit away from the thread cuz its just plain stupid.

Yeah, the beard stuff is pretty stupid. I can't believe people were actually debating what would "represent" Halo: Reach in their avatars? Like... REALLY? Just put a Noble 6 helmet on there.
 

feel

Member
Helmets again? Don't see what's wrong with going with badass braided beards in honor to sandbox savior Sage, but ok. hgh

metareferential said:
Can someone please avatarize that gif for me (just the two spartans)?
1yl4wn.jpg


Zeouterlimits said:
Letters, could you engage some Beardification on mah avatar? Might ginge up the tache too, por favor :D
2efkw9i.jpg


Louis Wu said:
Nah - he just posted it at tinypic, which labels EVERY picture a jpeg, even if it serves them correctly. If you actually SAVE the 'jpeg', you get a .gif.

Stupid tinypic.
What leaves me wondering, is that they sometimes get hosted there as ".gif", so idea why don't they make it so it's always like that? bah

And in case someone doesn't know, to save a jpeg gif as a regular gif from tinypic, you need to put a ".gif" at the end of the file name when choosing save destination or it'll save as a 1 frame jpeg. Or at least that's how it is on my laptop.

GhaleonEB said:
From the looks of it, assassinations are going to be pretty fun, which runs counter to MLG's philosophy.
ohnoudnt

Louis Wu said:
urk's answering (a few) questions in a B.net thread; so far there are only 9 answers in a 12-page thread, but hey, I've got high hopes!

Keeping track of urk's input here:

http://halo.bungie.org/misc/urk_reachquestions_041910.html
Cool, thank you.
 
electricpirate said:
Read their articles on the gametypes, they go into detail on why each piece of equipment was removed. Generally they were either pointless or overpowered for mlg gametypes. Sprint shouldn't be neither, as it mostly does things mlg likes: speeding up the game, and making it easier to contest objectives.

I'm actually interested to read these articles, but I can't find them.
 
Nutter said:
Ok smartass, how many halo threads do you see on GAF? vs, the various different mario game's threads. We had a Halo 3 discussion thread, it was closed down. If we still had that thread, you wouldnt see a whole lot of halo3 discussion in this thread. However I will agree that the Beard, oonsk shit got out of hand. I am all for keep that shit away from the thread cuz its just plain stupid.

Hey, come on. Most of the people here who want to talk specifically about the universe of a game go to different forums where that game is discussed. I don't see any other thread here full of things like "hey dude! nice halo 3 customs woot!" "yeah man those were a blast lolz" "hey i got 12 pics of the games im gonna post one sec" for pages upon pages. In the... Reach thread.

And if you still had the Halo 3 thread, it would at the top of the first page 24/7 right next to this one. This thread was already FULL of people talking about the last day of Halo 2, even with it's own thread right next to this one. Along with one dedicated to the entire xbox 1 service being shutdown.

Having people poke their head in here for info and getting lost, only to say to them "HEY THIS ISN'T JUST FOR REACH BUT ALL THINGS HALO, GO TO HBO FOR MOSTLY REACH TALK" and basically to ignore the thread title is stupid.

Dax01 said:
Or, you know, you could just look at the OP to see if there's any new information that wasn't there before.

But that would be too easy.

I bet GAF would be a much better place if only the OP in every thread had to actually be relevant to the... OP. Wait...

NG28 said:
Complain to a mod or something. Posting in here isn't going to do shit.

I know my place haha. *bow*
 
FunkyMunkey said:
That whole thing kinda falls apart when there are over 27000 posts here.
Or, you know, you could just look at the OP to see if there's any new information that wasn't there before.

But that would be too easy.
 
Did anyone notice that the jumping looks a little quicker/not as high in the recent footage? I'm not complaining, I'm one who actually thought the jumping felt to "floaty" before. The game definitely looks to have a faster pace, especially with the sprint/dive roll function. Oh, and one more question; does anyone know how the dive for elites work? Does your whole screen spin around when you take the dive, or does your reticule aim on the same spot (so we dont all get hella dizzy)?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Domino Theory said:
Yeah, the beard stuff is pretty stupid. I can't believe people were actually debating what would "represent" Halo: Reach in their avatars? Like... REALLY? Just put a Noble 6 helmet on there.
It is silly and fun. Most people on GAF don't know I rock a Bungie avatar, which amuses me. Now it's a Bungie avatar with a Reach garnish, which is even more obscure. This also amuses me. But then, I haven't (deliberately) worn matching socks in years, because that likewise amuses me. I like to be amused.

Spawning into an active Warthog = win.
 

NG28

Member
FunkyMunkey said:
Hey, come on. Most of the people here who want to talk specifically about the universe of a game go to different forums where that game is discussed. I don't see any other thread here full of things like "hey dude! nice halo 3 customs woot!" "yeah man those were a blast lolz" "hey i got 12 pics of the games im gonna post one sec" for pages upon pages. In the... Reach thread.

And if you still had the Halo 3 thread, it would at the top of the first page 24/7 right next to this one. This thread was already FULL of people talking about the last day of Halo 2, even with it's own thread right next to this one. Along with one dedicated to the entire xbox 1 service being shutdown.

Having people poke their head in here for info and getting lost, only to say to them "HEY THIS ISN'T JUST FOR REACH BUT ALL THINGS HALO, GO TO HBO FOR ACTUAL REACH STUFF" and basically to ignore the thread title is stupid.

Complain to a mod or something. Posting in here isn't going to do shit.
 
FunkyMunkey said:
I bet GAF would be a much better place if only the OP in every thread had to actually be relevant to the... OP. Wait...
Why do other threads matter? The OP in this thread regularly updates with all things Reach. If you want information, or to see if any new information has come out, just go there.
 
GhaleonEB said:
It is silly and fun.

Spawning into an active Warthog = win.

This is going to lead to some downright shocking gameplay, imagine rushing the enemy in a empty hog and then just as you close in on them a teamate spawns in the gunner. :lol

FunkyMunkey I have to say I post in here instead of elsewhere because I want the opinion of the people here, I just dont see why it affects you so much, there are sites out there dedicated to spitting out new info as it comes out. This is a discussion forum. How well would it go down if I went into a Football thread and demanded that they stopped talking about the general stuff and instead gave me a running feed of transfer information and match scores?

Sure there are forums out there for each football team, but what if you want to discuss Football with a pretty wide section of fans from different clubs?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Foxy Fox 39 said:
No, it's extremely awesome. Halo REach is looking better and better every day.
Seriously.

I imagine it works if you try to spawn by your battle bro. He's driving, you're gunning, and you die. He turns around and drives to a clear area, and you spawn back into gunner, and are off again.

So good.
 
So what do guys think are the chances of seeing really awesome silly extravagant armor permutations that will cost super amounts of credits.

Knowing already that armor permutations will not affect the hitboxes, it just seems to sense to put things like that in the game.

OOOOOR. May be certain emblems/permutations can be rewarded for how you do in Arena. Kinda like the way Blizzard gives out titles based on your Arena performance.
 
Letters said:
Helmets again? Don't see what's wrong with going with badass braided beards in honor to sandbox savior Sage, but ok. hgh


1yl4wn.jpg

Oh, thanks Letters, I almost forgot I asked you this.

Now I don't know wheter to change my avvi or not...I don't want to feel guilty :lol
 
bobs99 ... said:
FunkyMunkey I have to say I post in here instead of elsewhere because I want the opinion of the people here, I just dont see why it affects you so much, there are sites out there dedicated to spitting out new info as it comes out. This is a discussion forum. How well would it go down if I went into a Football thread and demanded that they stopped talking about the general stuff and instead gave me a running feed of transfer information and match scores?

It's because they're pages of non-Reach stuff, not a couple posts like those other topics. You guys hopscotch topics and then they're swarmed by dozens of people. I LOVE Halo so I absolutely understand the praise and desire to discuss. But I also understand the frustration of coming in here and going "wtf is going on, what tangent is this? what are they talking about?" and having to go back 6-7 pages before I get it. I only got 1 hour of sleep last night and I don't mean to sound like a stickler though so apologies to anyone confused by me.

Domino Theory said:
Embargo lifts 8am PST tomorrow. Got this from Kotaku.

*prepares extra pants*
 

Brainboy

Member
GhaleonEB said:
It is silly and fun. Most people on GAF don't know I rock a Bungie avatar, which amuses me. Now it's a Bungie avatar with a Reach garnish, which is even more obscure. This also amuses me. But then, I haven't (deliberately) worn matching socks in years, because that likewise amuses me. I like to be amused.

Ghaleon Reveal Thread - Sockmatching/Multisock Details Revealed
 
The new "spawn-on-your-bro-coop-style" is awesome.

It makes Invasion feel like playing the campaign, which is something truly amazing.

Even more so, if you see the elites do crazy things like slashing a Scorpion jumping around like a badass ninja.

And the Expert Marksman loadout is crazy. DMR-AR. Will it be Invasion only or will this become the standard marksman loadout? Hope the latter.

EDIT: the flying-kill avatar is up for grab, thanks to Letters (hope you don't mind if I don't use it).
 

Wizman23

Banned
Domino Theory said:
Embargo lifts 8am PST tomorrow. Got this from Kotaku.

Awesome. I wonder if we are going to be graced with a podcast this week. I also wonder when the "real" MP Vidoc is going to drop. My guess is early next week right before the friends and family beta drops. I can't believe a week from Thursday some lucky Gaffers are going to be playing the beta already! May 3rd seemed SO far away when the date was announced and now its just 2 measly weeks.
 

vhfive

Member
GAF bitches about when we have more than one Halo thread and now GAF bitches about having only one Halo thread....
let me fix that
GAF bitches about Halo (news at 10)


seriously though
Just read the fucking OP Dani does a good job keeping it up to date. If you don't like OPs (lots of people on GAF seem to be alergic to them) just go here (better yet bookmark that shit) its a more condensed version of the OP with just links.
 

Louis Wu

Member
Wizman23 said:
Awesome. I wonder if we are going to be graced with a podcast this week. I also wonder when the "real" MP Vidoc is going to drop. My guess is early next week right before the friends and family beta drops. I can't believe a week from Thursday some lucky Gaffers are going to be playing the beta already! May 3rd seemed SO far away when the date was announced and now its just 2 measly weeks.
According to urk's latest answer in the b.net Q&A, it should be up later today. (Edit: by 'it', I mean the podcast.)
 
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