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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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TacticalFox88
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Any word on whether that VTOL is playable ingame?
TacticalFox88
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Huh? I thought Dead Space 2 was the January issue?enzo_gt said:
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
enzo_gt said:
There should be plenty of magazines hitting mid to late January with Reach details. Bungie hosted many journalists, both domestic and international over the course of a few days a few weeks back. They've also said that January is when we'll get to know more with the media embargo lifting, co-inciding with the printing of the magazine stories.
Metroidvania said:
I've spent a futile hour and a half typing various responses to this (I agree with a lot of what you said) and it always feels a little pointless by the time I'm done writing. I feel like maybe the previous story arcs should be left in their own canonical area because they all share the same kitschy sci-fi tone. Once Reach is out then I'll have a better way to judge - from a casual perspective - the CE-3 narrative as one piece.
Vast Inspiration
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I'm talking about beating MW2 numbers on the 360; which is only 4.2 million.PSGames said:
Halo 3 sold 3.3 million in September to half the userbase in 2007 with a 53% attach rate.
If Microsoft kicks up the marketing like they did with Halo 2 and Halo 3, there is no doubt that Halo Reach would sell more than MW2, if it was to release in November. If it releases in September, it would only do around that ball park (3.8-4.4).
Diablohead
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Dear lord if they make the marketing a step above halo 3's, everything and I mean EVERYTHING will have a spartan on it :lol thinking back to the H3 stuff makes me lol, fast food chains using custom halo cups, sides of large buildings with huge banners (well that's not hardly unseen for car or movie adverts) and of course taking the gaf "Believe" word which after the ad's was never heard of again :lol
Stormtrooper30
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I just saw Avatar. Oh my damn. That movie is so fucking good. If you havnet seen this movie yet then get your ass out of your chair and fork over the 10 dollars to so see. I mean damn. So good. The story was alright, but the visuals...
I hope Reach beats MW2. I mean it would only make sense because more people will have Xbox's.
I hope Reach beats MW2. I mean it would only make sense because more people will have Xbox's.
Domino Theory
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Sir Fragula said:
Yeah.
Zeouterlimits
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*shrugs* Was whoever told you not a fan of Pocahontas?Sir Fragula said:
Pudding Tame
Member
Sir Fragula said:
It's pretty heavy handed with the environmental message, but the plot is nowhere near awful.
The only people I can see outright hating this movie are hyper-partisan Global Warming deniers and Tea-Baggers,
for glorifying the actions of capitalist-hating race traitor
The Librarian
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It's certainly cliche and predictable, but it's presented very well.Sir Fragula said:
Arpharmd B
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Zeouterlimits said:Indie games still not available in the South
What to do with my remaining 1270 points...
There's only a shit load of amazing XBLA games you could buy with those points.
Stormtrooper30
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the fuck?Pudding Tame said:
The graphics and presentation were superb. The plot was average an cliched, but the movie as a whole was incredibly enjoyable.
This is actually the correct review for it imo. Soundtrack is weak, and I'd also add something about cheesy lines, but not that big of a deal really. You definitely want to see it while it's still in theaters and in 3D though. The best part of the movie is how it looks. Pretty amazing. Was definitely a lot of fun.Dax01 said:
Makes you think a Halo movie could be pretty awesome if put in capable hands.
I wonder what Reach's environments are gonna look like. I don't really remember how it was described in First Strike, but for some reason in my head I just have typical forest/jungle-ish type of environments that I remember.
Pudding Tame
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Stormtrooper30 said:
And we are disagreeing, how?
Grimm Fandango
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I just came back from seeing Fern Gul- I mean Avatar.
I wouldn't mind Cameron's imagination in Halo but it might be too fantastical even for Halo.
Course he has done other movies...
I wouldn't mind Cameron's imagination in Halo but it might be too fantastical even for Halo.
Course he has done other movies...
Stormtrooper30
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Someone brought this up earlier:
This kinda does look like Kat's arm with a needler shoved into it.
Now take a look at this shot: http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/wallpapers/reach_1920.jpg
Definitely no right hand there either. Just a gun attached to an arm.
So we get to play as other members of Noble Team? Definitely brings up the question.
Edit: Also makes me wonder if Kat is going to have certain weapons that no one else gets to use.
This kinda does look like Kat's arm with a needler shoved into it.
Now take a look at this shot: http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/wallpapers/reach_1920.jpg
Definitely no right hand there either. Just a gun attached to an arm.
So we get to play as other members of Noble Team? Definitely brings up the question.
Edit: Also makes me wonder if Kat is going to have certain weapons that no one else gets to use.
I've said this before, but I think as Bungie is to shooters, Cameron is to action movies. (My favorite developer and director, respectively.) They just understand certain fundamentals of their respective genres that others keep trying and failing at. And do it in style.Dax01 said:
Neuromancer
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At least in Avatar they have a reasonable explanation for why some of the Navi speak English.Grimm Fandango said:
There's a lot of things that annoy me about Halo's story but that has to be #1. Why would a collective of aliens hell bent on destroying humanity speak English all the time?
Neuromancer said:At least in Avatar they have a reasonable explanation for why some of the Navi speak English.
There's a lot of things that annoy me about Halo's story but that has to be #1. Why would a collective of aliens hell bent on destroying humanity speak English all the time?
Translators?
To annoy people that care about stupid shit I suppose?Neuromancer said:At least in Avatar they have a reasonable explanation for why some of the Navi speak English.
There's a lot of things that annoy me about Halo's story but that has to be #1. Why would a collective of aliens hell bent on destroying humanity speak English all the time?
It could also be purely cosmetic.Trasher said:
The only thing I've seen so far that shifts me away from that thought is the size difference between Jorge and Kat. They're clearly not even close to the same size, ala the ODSTs. Which implies at least some difference between them.
Still not sure how I feel about that - assuming we get to play as them in MP.
Pudding Tame
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Neuromancer said:At least in Avatar they have a reasonable explanation for why some of the Navi speak English.
There's a lot of things that annoy me about Halo's story but that has to be #1. Why would a collective of aliens hell bent on destroying humanity speak English all the time?
Well, it's cannon that the Grunts actually do know how to speak English.
Just come up with your own reason why Brutes and Elites do as well and be happy.
(I like to go with a translator software upgrade introduced just before Halo 2, makes me feel like one of them creative types.)
GhaleonEB said:
Jorge carrying around something like a portable Gauss turret would be awesome.
Merry Christmas HaloGAF!!!!
Captain Blood
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Merry Christmas haloGAF!!
Posted in the christmas thread, but we all know our loyalties lie here
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
The second shot looks like an evolution to the needler. It would be cool if you were able to make upgrades to weapons.Kibbles said:Standard Needler is still in.
Translation software attached to an integrated battlefield intelligence suite?Neuromancer said:At least in Avatar they have a reasonable explanation for why some of the Navi speak English.
There's a lot of things that annoy me about Halo's story but that has to be #1. Why would a collective of aliens hell bent on destroying humanity speak English all the time?
Neuromancer
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I don't think Bungie's story writers are that clever to be honest with you.EazyB said:
I'll accept translating software etc but even when the aliens are talking amongst themselves, don't you think it's a little silly they'd do it in English?
The alien language thing is interesting. For me that was one of the main aspects that shifted the tone of the trilogy from Alien to Star Wars. Halo CE wasn't perfect hard sci-fi, just like Alien, but Bungie made an effort to make the game look believable. The Pillar of Autumn for example didn't look like a classical pulp sci-fi spaceship.
It was a big metal hunk and it wasn't built to look pretty or majestic like the Enterprise in Star Trek. It's a functional ship, when you take your first look at it you know it's a warship with thick hull plating since there are barely any visible windows on the thing and you can see all sorts of details that hint at the military nature of the ship.
The interior was also very well done and you could pick up a lot of subtle details like the use of vectors for navigation . The Autumn had a huge hangar bay that was in some ways reminiscent of an aircraft carrier. You can imagine that at some point 500 years from now someone could build something like that.
The fact that the Marines still use machine guns that don't seem very advanced from our perspective also makes it more believable. The UNSC wasn't equipped to fight against aliens. They were fighting against rebels who had similar equipment. 500 years from now a bullet is still going to kill you. One thing that we shouldn't forget either is that the UNSC must be huge. Just imagine how big a United Earth military force must be and then multiply it a couple of times for all the colonies. How long would it take to produce a bunch of anti Covenant rayguns and equip the entire military force with them? These weapons need to be manufactured and field tested for many years (like the Battle Rifle, which was obviously not designed as a specialised anti Covenant weapon). I'd say it would take centuries to research, produce, field test and mass manufature any kind of standard beam or plasma rifle.
I imagine that the main focus was to make the equipment cheap, quick to produce and most of all to make it reliable. Of course the vehicles were designed that way too. The entire look of the UNSC in Halo CE was very functional and believable. Another example for this would be the Longsword fighter. It's huge compared to an X-Wing or a Colonial Viper. It looks comparable in size to a space shuttle or a bomber. You can imagine that it has to store a lot of ammunition, fuel and it must have huge engines to be able to navigate in space.
Well, all in all Halo CE had a hard sci-fi look going for it. There are also hardly any sound effects in outer space scenes. Even the explosion of the Halo at the end was silent.
The alien language of the Elites fit right into that picture. Yeah, it was just a bunch of reversed Johnson lines but it had the intended effect. The broken English that the Grunts speak could be explained by the use of faulty/prototype translation software. Since the cowardly Grunts are the only aliens in the Covenant who could realistically have been captured before the events of Halo it makes sense that their language was the first to be fed into the translation matrix.
Halo 2 and Halo 3 went off in a different direction. While they preserved some of the hard sci-fi qualities of Halo CE some Hollywood blockbuster cliches were added too.
I wonder whether Reach will be a return to the roots of the franchise in that regard. The low tech nature of the VTOL's in the opening teaser and the space wreckage from the original E3 teaser seem to hint at it.
It was a big metal hunk and it wasn't built to look pretty or majestic like the Enterprise in Star Trek. It's a functional ship, when you take your first look at it you know it's a warship with thick hull plating since there are barely any visible windows on the thing and you can see all sorts of details that hint at the military nature of the ship.
The interior was also very well done and you could pick up a lot of subtle details like the use of vectors for navigation . The Autumn had a huge hangar bay that was in some ways reminiscent of an aircraft carrier. You can imagine that at some point 500 years from now someone could build something like that.
The fact that the Marines still use machine guns that don't seem very advanced from our perspective also makes it more believable. The UNSC wasn't equipped to fight against aliens. They were fighting against rebels who had similar equipment. 500 years from now a bullet is still going to kill you. One thing that we shouldn't forget either is that the UNSC must be huge. Just imagine how big a United Earth military force must be and then multiply it a couple of times for all the colonies. How long would it take to produce a bunch of anti Covenant rayguns and equip the entire military force with them? These weapons need to be manufactured and field tested for many years (like the Battle Rifle, which was obviously not designed as a specialised anti Covenant weapon). I'd say it would take centuries to research, produce, field test and mass manufature any kind of standard beam or plasma rifle.
I imagine that the main focus was to make the equipment cheap, quick to produce and most of all to make it reliable. Of course the vehicles were designed that way too. The entire look of the UNSC in Halo CE was very functional and believable. Another example for this would be the Longsword fighter. It's huge compared to an X-Wing or a Colonial Viper. It looks comparable in size to a space shuttle or a bomber. You can imagine that it has to store a lot of ammunition, fuel and it must have huge engines to be able to navigate in space.
Well, all in all Halo CE had a hard sci-fi look going for it. There are also hardly any sound effects in outer space scenes. Even the explosion of the Halo at the end was silent.
The alien language of the Elites fit right into that picture. Yeah, it was just a bunch of reversed Johnson lines but it had the intended effect. The broken English that the Grunts speak could be explained by the use of faulty/prototype translation software. Since the cowardly Grunts are the only aliens in the Covenant who could realistically have been captured before the events of Halo it makes sense that their language was the first to be fed into the translation matrix.
Halo 2 and Halo 3 went off in a different direction. While they preserved some of the hard sci-fi qualities of Halo CE some Hollywood blockbuster cliches were added too.
I wonder whether Reach will be a return to the roots of the franchise in that regard. The low tech nature of the VTOL's in the opening teaser and the space wreckage from the original E3 teaser seem to hint at it.
The Librarian
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In the beginning of Halo 2, when Thel is being tried before the three High Prophets, they're speaking in their own language, it's just being translated for us. It's the same way when you hear Londo talking to Vir or Emperor Cartagia in Babylon 5, or every other science-fiction show. When the Arbiter is talking to Sgt. Johnson, that's when he's speaking english.Neuromancer said:
Pudding Tame
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MagniHarvald said:
You think the anger over English speaking Covenant was bad? Imagine how bad the uber-geek reaction against Bungie would be because they didn't come up with three separate working alien languages.
Honestly, given how long some of the Arbiter-centric cut scenes were in Halo 2, I find hard to believe people would actually want to sit through this for any reasonable amount of time.
ARBITER: Wort-wort wort wort wort wort-wort wort wort-wort-wort-wort?
TARTARUS: Rawr rawr growl rawr growl.
ARBITER: Wort-wort.
TRUTTH: OhhhhhhohhhhhhohhhhAhhhhhhhAhhhhhhAhhhhhhahhhhhh.
ARBITER: WOOOOORT!!!!!!!!!!!!
And remeber how much plot/objective in-gameplay dialog there is too. All Covenant, all the time, would not have worked.