Halo Studios (ex-343) already in turmoil - "I don't think anybody is really happy about the quality of the product right now"

Oh Xbox. Making it very hard for anyone with an ounce of love for the platform to not come around to how much of a shit show this has been

Im sorry Gaf for being far too lenient on this shitty company.

Whole division needs a complete clear out of upper management and let someone else have a go.

Shame it took you longer than most to realise this
 
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He got that one right at least.
 
When asked about Halo it's always Halo 1-3 memories, everything since has been a swing and a miss. ODST was interesting, 4, and 5 were too different, and Infinite gives you some things to think about like open world, dog tags but most didn't like it.
Reach was one of the best but again still Bungie. I am hoping the switch to Unreal would improve their chances with Halo and speed up the development time as Infinite was copy and paste at its worst.
 
Oh Xbox. Making it very hard for anyone with an ounce of love for the platform to not come around to how much of a shit show this has been

Im sorry Gaf for being far too lenient on this shitty company.

Whole division needs a complete clear out of upper management and let someone else have a go.
Didn't you hear, last year was the most profitable year ever for Xbox. Why would they clear out upper management when they are clearly winning the war!
 
Is it crazy to think there is a future where Bungie make the next Halo, as some kind of joint venture between MS and Sony.
 
I like Spencer's approach.
"We are more profitable than ever! I never been richer in my life! My bonus this year will be massive!

By the way, you are all fired."
 
How can you work in an environment like that, thinking your ass is gonna be on the chopping block any day now.
 
How can you work in an environment like that, thinking your ass is gonna be on the chopping block any day now.

I know people that do and have worked for Intel. I can not express how much of a mess they are in. Some have already lost their jobs, after 15 or more years there. Others are still working with no knowledge of if they will have a job in 6 months.

Also, Intel CPUs are in constraint and its going to get worse. Not sure if Intel will ever recover.

Off topic though.

Thoughts to all those losing their jobs.
 
Oh Xbox. Making it very hard for anyone with an ounce of love for the platform to not come around to how much of a shit show this has been

Im sorry Gaf for being far too lenient on this shitty company.

Whole division needs a complete clear out of upper management and let someone else have a go.
I know you have me blocked, so you probably won't see it.

But I hope you now look back and realize that some of us were not console-warring. We were seeing all this shitshow brewing up for a long time, and we were just pointing it out.
 
They should just bury Halo. It had a good run with Bungie. Not every franchise needs to be a franchise. And not every and any developer should be able carry somebody else's legacy.
 
O look another catastrophically mismanaged Microsoft studio lacking any form of vision or cohesion.

Absolute Microsoft clown show.
 
How can you work in an environment like that, thinking your ass is gonna be on the chopping block any day now.
Depends on industry
Some even have "up or out" policy that just having good performance is not enough and your ass is always on chopping block
 
"Xbox in general feels years behind the curve in game development, and it leads to a lot of wasted time and effort,"

That's exactly what Laura Fryer said in her last video:
State of Decay 3 Perfect Dark and Fable And many of these games have been in development over 5 years. There is only one reason these games are behind It's because Xbox has lost their culture of shipping at scale. They don't have the people or the process in place that can ship.
 
Two take aways.

One: apparently last year was Xbox's most profitable year ever. That tells me Phil still has some time at the top left, because if there's one thing Microsoft loves more than firing employees, it's making money.
If you mean taking Activision's profits as their own, then maybe. But If I become the owner of Apple by merging, can i say I made my company successful because of Apple money?

Seriously. That was the reason why Xbox went third party. Because Activision is so much more profitable than Xbox itself that Xbox get drowned out.
 
There will be a lot of disgruntled people wanting to get a lot off their chest so prepare for an influx of negativity.



Give it back to bungie
Have you seen what Bungie is doing right now. That company isn't what it was. Same with Blizzard, and others.
 
It sounds like nothing has changed, they are still 343, they still rely on contractors to make their games, and now they are laying off employees. Don't expect much from anything they do going forward is all I will say.
 
Give it to Bethesda to make the next game/reboot the series. 343 has been awful, the they/them mess just added to the erosion of the Halo series. 100's of millions spent made what? a 3rd back?
 
If you mean taking Activision's profits as their own, then maybe. But If I become the owner of Apple by merging, can i say I made my company successful because of Apple money?

Seriously. That was the reason why Xbox went third party. Because Activision is so much more profitable than Xbox itself that Xbox get drowned out.

They've had Activision profits for more than 1FY so they've only grown after being folded into Microsoft.

Of course you could? What a weird rhetoric, you've made a company more successful than Apple if you can now purchase Apple so yes the glory of Apple is now your glory to enjoy.
 
I mean, I knew it i just gave them the benefit of the doubt for far too long. 😞
I still think people give you too much of a hard time. I wanted Xbox to succeed, but the way they used FUD, false promises and culturing a social media warriors without actually delivering quality products, was ultimately what made me not want to support them.
 
Give it to Bethesda to make the next game/reboot the series. 343 has been awful, the they/them mess just added to the erosion of the Halo series. 100's of millions spent made what? a 3rd back?
Bethesda is the same umbrella that made Redfall, Fallout 76, Starfield, Wolfenstein Young Blood.

While Bethesda has still delivered decent stuff, they're quality hasn't been up to snuff in quite a while. I am seeing warning signs that they're becoming victims of poor management.

Without guys like Pete Hines who had a passion for games, but understood that you actually have to deliver a product I expect them to gradually get worse.
 
I mean, I knew it i just gave them the benefit of the doubt for far too long. 😞
Nah bro you're one of us(people that play games just because why the fuck not, it's fun), you just were a bit stubborn about a little part of it.

You're in no way a fundamentalist preaching gospel like many that have come and gone.

You're cool in my book. 🤨🤜🏻🤛🏻🤨
 
You know what the saddest part about " trying replace as many people with AI" is that's it's not about saving money... it's about boosting stock by being able to say they are "INVESTED IN AN AI FUTURE" as the new investment fad.
 
I still think people give you too much of a hard time. I wanted Xbox to succeed, but the way they used FUD, false promises and culturing a social media warriors without actually delivering quality products, was ultimately what made me not want to support them.

Nah bro you're one of us(people that play games just because why the fuck not, it's fun), you just were a bit stubborn about a little part of it.

You're in no way a fundamentalist preaching gospel like many that have come and gone.

You're cool in my book. 🤨🤜🏻🤛🏻🤨

Aw shucks. Thanks guys. I've 100% fallen victim to being caught up in warring in the past but these comments mean a lot.

I ❤️ the gaf community!
 
I really liked Halo 5 at the beginning, and their effort towards e-sports. Sadly for me and the guys I played with competitively, they changed so much out of insecurity and loud voices in the community, it ended up being lukewarm for all, no matter the preference.
 
Jesus christ, how many simple, slam dunk projects can you possibly fuck up? Bunch of idiots running the show. How can you not make a good HALO game again? Starting to not even feel bad about the layoffs anymore. Maybe learn to not take 8 years to make a game and need 500 million dollars to do it.

Halo should have ended with Reach, last game from the original developer, a nice send-off and goodbye on a high note

Of course that wasn't going to happen because it made truckloads of cash, but the brand gets tarnished with every attempt from this Frankenstudio made only to churn out Halo games a la Ubislop with its open world games 🤷‍♂️
 
Who could have predicted asking a bunch of new hires and H1Bs to make a new Halo game on UE5 was a bad idea? Seems like a sure shot money printer. Especially when you consider how easy it has been for non-Bungie developers to clone Halo!
 
I always thought Id would be perfect for this series or gears. I dont know why it hasn't happened when you have access to them.
 
When asked about Halo it's always Halo 1-3 memories, everything since has been a swing and a miss. ODST was interesting, 4, and 5 were too different, and Infinite gives you some things to think about like open world, dog tags but most didn't like it.
Hey now, reach was brilliant put some respect on that game. That objective "Survive" at the end stayed with me.
 
Is it crazy to think there is a future where Bungie make the next Halo, as some kind of joint venture between MS and Sony.
If they had any sense, this is what they would do.

Stop wasting time on GAAS trash like Marathon and get back to the drawing board. Amazing SP campaign with next gen visuals and addicting, tight multiplayer that isnt a live service.

Print money. So easy. These guys are just brain dead running the show.
 
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