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Handheld gaming revolution. Why are you so jaded?

jimbo

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Ok I know I've been out of the scene for awhile, but I've been reading for about a month in here and I couldn't believe some of the posts people made downing PSP's graphics. When as early as two years ago, I was only dreaming of a portable system that could do 3D graphis right and others arguing how it wouldn't be possible any time soon.

I mean if we look at how long it took us to get to where we are today in graphics on consoles and compare that to how in just one year we went from the same old 2d graphics to almost PS2 quality, it's almost like over night. Am I the only one's that's really super impressed with the PSP? I shouldn't overlook the DS because it was just as cool to me when I first played it, especially with the touchscreen which is a neat feature, but the PSP really stole its thunder fast. The image quality is incredible too. I've waited 10 years to finally get excited about handheld games, and some people act like it's no big deal. Am I really that old?
 
Although I do admitt I like 3D over 2D i doubt 2D gaming will ever go away. It still holds certain gameplay mechanics that really can't be duplicated in 3D. Pure platformers for example.
 
"It did?"

For me yeah. I guess I shouldn't generalize. But one's an N64 and the other a PS2. That's more than enough for me to swing their way, especially if they are working on a better battery.

P.S. I was mainly reffering to technical capabilities.
 
Sure, it might not go away, but 2D games will become very few and far between.

It's certainly not a day I look forward to, and it's approaching nearer and nearer.
 
I have less time to sit on my ass in front of my tv and felt ripped off by often crapatacular 2-d / fake 3-d ports on the GB's so the PSP and it's 3-d s a welcomed change for me. Finally console quality graphics and some on the go!

PSP, you know you want it!!!
 
PSP doesnt interest me at all, if im going to play ps2 like games, id much rather play them on a ps2!

Ill be forced to get a DS because games like warioware touch, feel the magic, advance wars etc dont have equivilents on consoles.
 
The impending launch of any new system turns otherwise reasonable people into raving lunatics.

Nintendo went from realistically raking in the cash and ruling the handheld war to hypothetically carving out a niche in the market and going bankrupt within a few minutes at E3 last year.
 
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The reason PSP graphics are downplayed is because there are plenty of kickass games on handhelds now (better than many PS2 games) that dont have good graphics.

your right about the jaggies though. Especially Ridge Racers to my amazement the PS2-like jaggies and flickering textures somehow made the cut.
 
goomba said:
PSP doesnt interest me at all, if im going to play ps2 like games, id much rather play them on a ps2!

Most TVs are 100x better then the PSP. That is why I could care less about it. Now if Sony suddenly becomes wise in the next year and starts using that power to make some kickass high res 2D games I will quickly jump on the bandwagon.

Honestly, does everyone here take public transportation that they are so excited about portable gaming? I only play my SP at home and I would never play the SP at all if there was a home console equivalent.
 
GamerDiva said:

For me the PSP stole the thunder because of the possibilities. I seem more potential in that device overall than I do in the DS. I think the DS will have some great things in its future, but the PSP is more 'for me'. It will enable great media play in a variety environments (which will become more and more important as the delivery date for my son/daughter approaches in April) and it will give me the same caliber of games that I currently experience - but away from the house or at least without being parked in front of the TV. I can see myself playing the PSP in bed and playing games over WiFi. I can see a crap load of emulators being written for it. I can actually see homebrew showing up for it.

I don't see any of that happening for the DS. I see the DS the same way as I see the cube. Its great for the occasional game that comes along, but more often than not it will be sitting on a shelf like my GBA SP is currently. I currently don't see the value proposition for owning the DS and the GBA...
 
bionic77 said:
Honestly, does everyone here take public transportation that they are so excited about portable gaming? I only play my SP at home and I would never play the SP at all if there was a home console equivalent.

The daily commute, lunch hour, downtime for network maintenance at the office... there's a ton of dead time I have each day where I could be squeezing in some gaming. Right now, I generally sit and read a magazine or something to kill time instead. The PSP looks like it's going to give me a chance to work more console-quality gaming into my current schedule, titles comparable to what I'm accustomed to playing at home, and that alone is enough to get me psyched.
 
better graphics is the only thing that is revolutionary for gaming today :) especially when new hardware come. I mean who ever expected better graphics for newer hardware? :lol
 
Tellaerin said:
The daily commute, lunch hour, downtime for network maintenance at the office... there's a ton of dead time I have each day where I could be squeezing in some gaming. Right now, I generally sit and read a magazine or something to kill time instead. The PSP looks like it's going to give me a chance to work more console-quality gaming into my current schedule, titles comparable to what I'm accustomed

Not to mention playing music and watching the occasional movie :)
 
Tellaerin said:
The daily commute, lunch hour, downtime for network maintenance at the office... there's a ton of dead time I have each day where I could be squeezing in some gaming. Right now, I generally sit and read a magazine or something to kill time instead. The PSP looks like it's going to give me a chance to work more console-quality gaming into my current schedule, titles comparable to what I'm accustomed to playing at home, and that alone is enough to get me psyched.

Fair enough. I really don't know how many people take any sort of public transportation to work. The only thing I ever need that is portable is a music player. I know there are obviously some people like you that have some dead spots to fill in their day, I just don't know how many people are like that in the US.

Personally, I always feel a little weird playing any sort of games in public like that though. That is just me though.
 
I gotta admit I'm majorly impressed by PSP's screen quality... but then I just find myself rarely playing handhelds (though I've loved my GBA games, I play them more on the gameboy player for my gc than actually on the go). So I'm not really jaded, just burned out for the most part. Even though I say I'm not all that big on handheld gaming, god knows I'll rob someone to buy a PSP if I have to when there's a game for it I just have to have.
 
I'm not jaded by the new handhelds, but at the same time I just don't see what is so fucking amazing about the PSP. I don't see what is special about making the console experience portable or watching movies on the go when the battery life is so random and limiting. To me, load times and memory management aren't things I need in a portable gaming experience.

As an adult, I have no time for movies on the go, if I did, I would have bought a portable DVD player. But I don't need that, I have a DVD player in the home already thanks to my PS2. This is Sony's "convergance" philosophy coming back to haunt it and now they're just trying to give me stuff I don't need.

Yeah, MP3 playback is cute, but I've already got other options that I can consider superior to that as well. Why do I need a PSP for music when I already have an iPod I can put my whole music collection on

Why put games on PSP that PS2 already has? I already have them, I can play many of them now on PS2. Why make games for PSP I could be playing on my PS2 and enjoying more? Don't get my wrong, some games like Metal Gear Acid and Hot Shots Golf fit the handheld environment like a glove, but Dynasty Warriors and Gran Turismo? Nope.

I can even see some last-gen games getting a revival on PSP, especially those popular, but now hard to find, similar to what Nintendo does with the Mario Advance game, but there's so much current gen stuff on it I really see little that makes PSP unique as a handheld gaming experiece.

The thing about console games is they're able to bring out that audio and visual cinematic experience, things like voice and surround sound are utter waste on handhelds. I'll never be able to enjoy GTA III on PSP like I did on PS2 because little perks like the radio stations would be drowned out in various places on the go, if they were even implemented at all. Codec scenes in MGA were actually was designed around that fact, there will be no extensive voice acting in the game as a result. So part of the draw to Metal Gear is comepletely lost in handheld form.

DS is making some of the same missteps, but at the same time, there are more actual handheld games being created for it as opposed to console ports. DS isn't exempting itself from ports, but there's plenty of tools there to make the gaming experience unique to the DS. I'll play games on DS like I never could have on GameCube, N64, SNES or Game Boy, not to mention it opens the door for genres once not accessable to the handheld market, such as FPS, RTS and point'n'click adventures.

Put it this wat, DS is expanding what can be done on handhelds, PSP is just making portable gaming prettier.

That said, niether handheld has enough compelling software at this time to proclaim either a worth purchase. I honestly see more compelling content on GBA right now and more on the way. The only thing that makes me want a DS at this point is Metroid Prime Hunters, Kirby's Touch and Go and Advance Wars DS, but that's 2/3 months off, if that.

Metal Gear Acid and Makkai Wars are about all I want from PSP. But then, the PSP's weaksauce battery life and Sony's history or breakable hardware make PSP even more undesireable to me. So, I'm not really jaded, I can just see through Sony's bullshit.

What is profoundly amazing is how Sony make people forget all that with hype, I'm just happy I'm immune to it now, but then, two broken PS2s and a forsaken HDD will do that to you.
 
Everyone who wants a PSP can't see through Sony's "bullshit", am i rite Foobar?

You, Foobar, are exactly what this thread talks about, and it applies to BOTH camps.
 
Foobar said:
I'm not jaded by the new handhelds, but at the same time I just don't see what is so ------- amazing about the PSP. I don't see what is special about making the console experience portable or watching movies on the go when the battery life is so random and limiting. To me, load times and memory management aren't things I need in a portable gaming experience.

This, actually, is a valid argument. You should have stopped here.

As an adult, I have no time for movies on the go, if I did, I would have bought a portable DVD player. But I don't need that, I have a DVD player in the home already thanks to my PS2. This is Sony's "convergance" philosophy coming back to haunt it and now they're just trying to give me stuff I don't need.

Okay. You don't like to play games 'on the go'. To each his own.

Yeah, MP3 playback is cute, but I've already got other options that I can consider superior to that as well. Why do I need a PSP for music when I already have an iPod I can put my whole music collection on

I'll bet you don't have any paper plates in your house, either.

Why put games on PSP that PS2 already has? I already have them, I can play many of them now on PS2. Why make games for PSP I could be playing on my PS2 and enjoying more? Don't get my wrong, some games like Metal Gear Acid and Hot Shots Golf fit the handheld environment like a glove, but Dynasty Warriors and Gran Turismo? Nope.

Speak for yourself, slappy. I want to see all those games on my portable system. You make it sound like I have to strap a PS2 to my back to enjoy games outside.

I can even see some last-gen games getting a revival on PSP, especially those popular, but now hard to find, similar to what N intendo does with the Mario Advance game, but there's so much current gen stuff on it I really see little that makes PSP unique as a handheld gaming experiece.

You are not looking hard enough.

The thing about console games is they're able to bring out that audio and visual cinematic experience, things like voice and surround sound are utter waste on handhelds. I'll never be able to enjoy GTA III on PSP like I did on PS2 because little perks like the radio stations would be drowned out in various places on the go, if they were even implemented at all. Codec scenes in MGA were actually was designed around that fact, there will be no extensive voice acting in the game as a result. So part of the draw to Metal Gear is comepletely lost in handheld form.

Doesn't the PSP have a headphone port?

DS is making some of the same missteps, but at the same time, there are more actual handheld games being created for it as opposed to console ports. DS isn't exempting itself from ports, but there's plenty of tools there to make the gaming experience unique to the DS. I'll play games on DS like I never could have on GameCube, N64, SNES or Game Boy, not to mention it opens the door for genres once not accessable to the handheld market, such as FPS, RTS and point'n'click adventures.

How much did they pay you? You should be a spokesperson one day. You are a Nintendream. We all know that N is innovative and creative. I guess it depends on what you want out of your personal handheld. Personally, I want MGS and GTA.

Put it this way, DS is expanding what can be done on handhelds, PSP is just making portable gaming prettier.

And the problem with this is....?

That said, neither handheld has enough compelling software at this time to proclaim either a worth purchase. I honestly see more compelling content on GBA right now and more on the way. The only thing that makes me want a DS at this point is Metroid Prime Hunters, Kirby's Touch and Go and Advance Wars DS, but that's 2/3 months off, if that.

Does this mean we won't have to see posts like this again?

Metal Gear Acid and Makkai Wars are about all I want from PSP. But then, the PSP's weaksauce battery life and Sony's history or breakable hardware make PSP even more undesireable to me. So, I'm not really jaded, I can just see through Sony's bullshit.

That's N-tastic!

What is profoundly amazing is how Sony make people forget all that with hype, I'm just happy I'm immune to it now, but then, two broken PS2s and a forsaken HDD will do that to you.

NintenDOODs 4-EVAR!
 
Here's a little timeline that explains how lovers of '2D' gaming feel.

1995: Happy with gaming. Genesis and SNES going strong. Saturn(primarily impressive 2D) and PSX(primarily primitive 3D) launch.
1996: Games begin to shift to 3D. N64 launches.
1997: Genesis and SNES die. Saturn doing poorly. N64 disappoints. 2D begins to fade into obscurity.
1998: Despite my satisfaction with it, Saturn dies. 2D all but dead.
1999: Playstation rules the market, with little 2D offerings. N64 has a nice sizable chunk of market, but has even fewer 2D offerings. Dreamcast launches - has a nice but small selection of 2D titles.
2000: Dreamcast begins to fade. PS2 lauches.
2001: Dreamcast dies. PS2 reigns. Xbox and Gamecube launch. Gameboy Advance launches - 2D at last!
2002-2003: GC, XBox, and PS2 do well and churn out game after game, but very few 2D games. However, the GBA enjoys continued success.
2004: Nintendo DS launches in response to Sony entering portable market. Capable of 3D, but has a few 2D titles on the horizon:
2005: PSP launches, ushering in a new age of 3D handhelds.
Possible Scenario 1: DS and PSP aren't runaway successes and GBA sticks around for a while. 2D remains alive.
Possible Scenario 2. DS takes away all resources from GBA, essentially killing it. PSP becomes #1 portable in market. 2D R.I.P.


At least that's my point of view.
 
I don't know call me crazy but I just have this silly vision of the PSP doing to handheld gaming what the Playstation did to console gaming. Also, if the PSP can do those type of graphics now, 10 years from now, I see handheld and console gaming being one and the same. One system, take it on the road or hook it up to your TV screen. Brilliant. Eliminates a lot of problems.
 
Amir0x said:
I'll pray for the scenario that doesn't require the stagnation of the handheld industry, thank you very much.

You got your fancy, schmancy 3D games on 3 consoles and on computers, where am I gonna get my 2D fix from huh?

Or as the late, great Rick James would have said:

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You can always get a new couch nigga(3D games), but what about my legs (2D)?

Darknesses (PSP/DS)!
 
bionic77 said:
You got your fancy, schmancy 3D games on 3 consoles and on computers, where am I gonna get my 2D fix from huh?

Or as the late, great Rick James would have said:

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You can always get a new couch nigga(3D games), but what about my legs (2D)?

Darknesses (PSP/DS)!

On consoles and handhelds, like they've always been. Only now handhelds won't be limited by 2D only, thus allowing a greater variety of gameplay and genre types not seen in this arena before.

And now, as a benefit, we won't get five hundred million shitty me-too platformers attempting to be Mario or Contra and instead we'll get a lot of crappy 3D games and good 3D games, and the odd 2D game that is probably going to be awesome.

Anyway, you shouldn't worry too much. Nintendo DS is going to be a fantastic 2D system. There's tons of 2D games coming out for it.
 
Even though I like 2D games, having a handheld made primarily for 2D really limits some genres. If I want to play a really good racing game on a handheld, 2D/primitive 3D just doesn't cut it. Or just about any kind of game that requires decent 3D capabilites, because there are some games that just doesn't work as well in 2D. But then, moving on to more advanced hardware to allow such games, 2D will probably become less common.

I think it would be best if GBA/DS and PSP could co-exist, giving people the option to play 2D or 3D games on a handheld without either being neglected. Assuming the need is there.
 
bionic77 said:
I don't want to play with a stylus though. :(

You won't always have to. Castlevania DS, for instance, plays just like any other Castlevania except for bosses you'll have to deliver the final blow via stylus. It seems pretty competent.

Don't worry, give it a chance. If you love 2D so much (like I do) you should be applauding the ability to insert much-needed freshness into that arena, allowing you to approach those type of games from an angle you've never thought of before.
 
Who is dissing the handheld revolution? Not me! NDS fan here, but I still wish the PSP a bit of luck, too. Anything to expand the market, and all that. I can see a day when portables will be more popular than home consoles (still a ways away, but it'll happen)

(and 2D will never die! Well, not as long as there are smaller indie developers out there with excellent art skills who can't afford the move to 3D space)
 
jimbo said:
I don't know call me crazy but I just have this silly vision of the PSP doing to handheld gaming what the Playstation did to console gaming. Also, if the PSP can do those type of graphics now, 10 years from now, I see handheld and console gaming being one and the same. One system, take it on the road or hook it up to your TV screen. Brilliant. Eliminates a lot of problems.


I doubt it...PSP is 5 year old tech(in shrunken form)...it takes time for the tech to scale down to portable form, and it's going to look "old" compared to Xenon/PS3/Revolution. It'll still look great, especially "for a handheld"...but consoles will always be ahead of handhelds, that's just the nature of things.
 
Amir0x said:
I'll pray for the scenario that doesn't require the stagnation of the handheld industry, thank you very much.


Then you should hope that actual game design evolves to better the medium.
 
kumanoki said:
Okay. You don't like to play games 'on the go'. To each his own.

I didn't say that, learn to read, buddy. I love handheld gaming, I always have my GBA handy in case I'm waiting to do something out in public, its a great way to pass the time. I said I see no point in watching MOVIES in public. Basically, I prefer and interactive experience rather than zoning out to a movie. I don't see where movies fit into the American "on the go" lifestyle outside of family car trips if you're a kid. I drive the car and have no wife and kids. so where do I enjoy this little luxury of movies on PSP? At home?

Wait... that's what the DVD player is for, isn't it?

Speak for yourself, slappy. I want to see all those games on my portable system. You make it sound like I have to strap a PS2 to my back to enjoy games outside.

Jesus, you can't read, can you? Here's the point again if you missed it. I don't need something else that plays PS2 games, that's what my PS2 is for. I want experiences that are unique to PSP and NDS, which take advantage of their features and control schemes. I want games built with the handheld in mind, not quick retread of a console game for easy money. Apparently, you crave stagnation.

You are not looking hard enough.

I've looked at everything and there's only a handful of PSP gams that don't look like carbon copies of PS2 games or games I'd just rather play on PS2. There is little to nothing that distinguishes PSP from its console counterpart in terms of games. Or do I need to show you Twisted Metal, Wipeout, Gran Turismo and all those EA Ports? They're redundant.

Doesn't the PSP have a headphone port
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I've used headphones for years, it doesn't compare to full surround in the home and never will.

How much did they pay you? You should be a spokesperson one day. You are a Nintendream. We all know that N is innovative and creative. I guess it depends on what you want out of your personal handheld. Personally, I want MGS and GTA.

I don't know where you come up with this stuff, I'll say it again, at this time, there is nothing on PSP or NDS that justifies them as a purchase.

You're not getting MGS, you're getting MGA. Unlike Sony, Konami does know the portable market and makes games suited to their respective platforms. MGA is a strategy/card came, that's perfect for small bursts of portable play. GTA would require a save-anywhere feature to even be playable.

When I'm out in the world, I may need to stop a game at a moment's notice. Yeah, there is a sleep feature, but I'd rather just quickly save my game and turn it off. GTA, as of now, has no such feature on PS2 and GTA PSP is little more than a port of GTA III from the sounds of it.

I'd bother replying to the rest of your all-assuming fanboy nonsense, but why waste my time when you enjoy riding Sony's cock?
 
Foobar said:
Here's the point again if you missed it. I don't need something else that plays PS2 games, that's what my PS2 is for. I want experiences that are unique to PSP and NDS, which take advantage of their features and control schemes. I want games built with the handheld in mind, not quick retread of a console game for easy money.

You and your kind, my dear friend, are the grand and absolute evolution of handheld gaming as a whole.

Viva la revolution! :)
 
This is what I've been saying all along. I want Mercury. I want Lumines. I want Advance Wars. I want Wario Ware. I don't want Grand Theft Auto, Devil May Cry, or Need for Speed Rivals. I don't want Mario 64, OoT, or Perfect Dark.

If you want to end stagnation in the handheld gaming industry, wish for original games. And by original, I don't just mean original content. I mean games that play well on the go, using features that work well on a handheld. You may want to play Wanda and the Collossus on your handheld, but I'd prefer a big TV.
 
Death of 2D gaming?


There is a frickin 2D Mario Platformer coming out!!

2D gaming canÂ’t get much better then that!


With the lack of analogue control I would assume there would be a health number of 2D games on the DS!
 
In all honesty, I didn't find this generation very *fun*. The only console game that sucked me in and felt like something new and interesting was Morrowind, and thats a port of a pc game. Sure, there were some semi enjoyable titles here and there, but basically I'm sick of shooting, stabbing, and jumping on the same old retarded robotic computer enemies, talking to the same old dull predictable npcs, in full dull 3d loading laden glory. I've turned to the gba and multiplayer gaming for my entertainment. advance wars, castlevania, metroid, wario ware, fire emblem are like a breath of fresh air. Colorful, fast paced, tight gameplay. Still mindless, but otherwise everything this console gen wasn't. I look forward to DS's future because it seems like it will be GBA sidestory 1.5 +. PSP on the other hand seems to be the algamation of everything I'm disappointed with this generation. It has a lot of potential don't get me wrong, but the announced titles so far don't do much to encourage thinking that the PSP is going to be anything other than a PS2 gen port machine.
 
Foobar said:
Here's the point again if you missed it. I don't need something else that plays PS2 games, that's what my PS2 is for. I want experiences that are unique to PSP and NDS, which take advantage of their features and control schemes. I want games built with the handheld in mind, not quick retread of a console game for easy money. Apparently, you crave stagnation.

Agreed. I'm losing interest in gaming as it is, so why would I want to buy two systems that so far offer me almost exactly the same types of games that I currently am losing interest in? I want, no need, something fresh. I need something that's going to make me take notice of it, and get me interested again. I don't know which system will do that, if any. I thought that the DS would offer it, with the touch screen and all, but so far, it does not. I thought that the PSP might offer something a little different that the titles I already own for the PS2, so far it does not. Sooner or later, these systems' potential will be realized, but if that means the same games that I currently am not really enjoying, then I'll pass.

This is why I like the moniker of 'Revolution' for Nintendo's next. Maybe, hopefully, they'll have a neat idea or concept that will offer something new and different, instead of just the same old games with more realistic graphics. If not them, then anyone. Give me something new and different. Sooner or later, the casuals will feel the same way and they'll leave. What will happen to the industry then?
 
Spike said:
This is why I like the moniker of 'Revolution' for Nintendo's next. Maybe, hopefully, they'll have a neat idea or concept that will offer something new and different, instead of just the same old games with more realistic graphics. If not them, then anyone. Give me something new and different. Sooner or later, the casuals will feel the same way and they'll leave. What will happen to the industry then?


Goddamit, not to sound too gay, but posts like this give me hope for a new generation of gamers. Gaming is an art form (hopefully fully realised by now) and as all great art movements mature, new and innovative forms of expression come to existance to break old walls down to their foundations. This is what I see happening now. A new breed of gamer is being born (by necessity)

A new form of expression will come. A new way to play will be born.
 
Cruel Bastard Mario said:
Goddamit, not to sound too gay, but posts like this give me hope for a new generation of gamers. Gaming is an art form (hopefully fully realised by now) and as all great art movements mature, new and innovative forms of expression come to existance to break old walls down to their foundations. This is what I see happening now. A new breed of gamer is being born (by necessity)

A new form of expression will come. A new way to play will be born.

This is what Nintendo wants. Whether they come to realize this vision is up to them
 
Spike said:
Sooner or later, the casuals will feel the same way and they'll leave. What will happen to the industry then?

Well, you could always look at it this way...IF people lose interest in games, the industry will probably change according to that. But people are still buying the same old games with more realistic graphics, or in some cases the same old games with the same old graphics. As long as people are willing to pay for it, developers will obviously make it. Why change a winning formula? If there's a big decline in sales, developers will probably find new ways of attracting people. They will be forced to, after all.
 
bionic77 said:
Honestly, does everyone here take public transportation that they are so excited about portable gaming? I only play my SP at home and I would never play the SP at all if there was a home console equivalent.

bionic777.......I think you are stereotyping the different types of gamers here on this forum. I was just like you not too long ago where I was in a position where I didn't own a handheld and didn't have a need or desire to play with any of them.

But that's changed....

I got a different job and now I am working in an office where I have the luxury to be able to kick back for hours upon hours and do virtually nothing. Hence, I bought an SP and then a DS, and have been enjoying the hell out of them at work for months now! I have invested more time gaming on my SP/DS than I have on any of my consoles combined over the last year!

PSP is THE electronic gadget I'm looking forward to most this year! I am extremely fortunate to be able to have a great paying job where I can just sit there and play games all fucking day with no one else around. It rocks big time and as a result I am now into handhelds more than EVER! So to answer your question, it's not only about transportation or how often we go places that we could whip out or handhelds, it's about the different types of enviroments we are placed in on a daily basis.....some of which call for a perfect opportunity to play our handhelds.

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Cruel Bastard Mario said:
Goddamit, not to sound too gay, but posts like this give me hope for a new generation of gamers. Gaming is an art form (hopefully fully realised by now) and as all great art movements mature, new and innovative forms of expression come to existance to break old walls down to their foundations. This is what I see happening now. A new breed of gamer is being born (by necessity)

A new form of expression will come. A new way to play will be born.
Now, if only you fellas could get past complaining about what you don't want and actually put words to what you DO want, you might be getting somewhere.

Conceive of this new gaming paradigm for us, you far-sighted revolutionaries...show us what it looks like.
 
isamu said:
bionic777.......I think you are stereotyping the different types of gamers here on this forum. I was just like you not too long ago where I was in a position where I didn't own a handheld and didn't have a need or desire to play with any of them.

But that's changed....

I got a different job and now I am working in an office where I have the luxury to be able to kick back for hours upon hours and do virtually nothing. Hence, I bought an SP and then a DS, and have been enjoying the hell out of them at work for months now! I have invested more time gaming on my SP/DS than I have on any of my consoles combined over the last year!

PSP is THE electronic gadget I'm looking forward to most this year! I am extremely fortunate to be able to have a great paying job where I can just sit there and play games all fucking day with no one else around. It rocks big time and as a result I am now into handhelds more than EVER! So to answer your question, it's not only about transportation or how often we go places that we could whip out or handhelds, it's about the different types of enviroments we are placed in on a daily basis.....some of which call for a perfect opportunity to play our handhelds.

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Not everyone is lucky enough to get paid good money to play videogames all day. I think that is going to be a pretty small niche.
 
jimbo said:
Ok I know I've been out of the scene for awhile, but I've been reading for about a month in here and I couldn't believe some of the posts people made downing PSP's graphics. When as early as two years ago, I was only dreaming of a portable system that could do 3D graphis right and others arguing how it wouldn't be possible any time soon.

I mean if we look at how long it took us to get to where we are today in graphics on consoles and compare that to how in just one year we went from the same old 2d graphics to almost PS2 quality, it's almost like over night. Am I the only one's that's really super impressed with the PSP? I shouldn't overlook the DS because it was just as cool to me when I first played it, especially with the touchscreen which is a neat feature, but the PSP really stole its thunder fast. The image quality is incredible too. I've waited 10 years to finally get excited about handheld games, and some people act like it's no big deal. Am I really that old?


Greetings jimbo. Hope you're enjoying your evening :) I would like to make an important post........

To be perfectly honest, it isn't that big of a deal to me. There are so many great games out for the GBA that I have yet to play that I won't have a desire to play SNES games anytime soon.

But you know what does have me excited? The possibility of a GBA and SNES emulator for the SONY PSP!! That's right, the PSP! Given the incredible power of this upcoming brilliant handheld system, I have a gut feeling that emu devs out there will be able to tap into the PSP's design and create snes and gba emu....hopefuly within the year.

Guys, can you imagine how ridiculously awesome it would be to be able to play all SNES games and GBA games on Sony's beautiful widescreen? Complete with image filters and a stretch feature? Seriously would that NOT wet your pants???? Can you imagine playing Chrono Trigger on that big crisp widescreen while standing in line at Ralphs Supermarket waiting for the bagger to bag your groceries? What about playing a quick game of F-Zero while waiting in the barber shop for your turn to get your hair cut?

Snes and GBA emulation on a Sony PSP is THE one thing I am excited the most about this year!!!!!! It's too bad jett fails to see this as a good thing and continues to play the Atari Jaguar :(

C'mon who's with me?
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