Has anyone seen the huge RE4 marketing who was supposed to start today?
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Not to mention the fact that RE:Outbreak did incredibly well on the PS2 for being primarily an online title.SantaCruZer said:
Of course. But, anyway, the point is on PS2 many Capcom game have performed and even exceeded their expectations. The original Onimusha had a 1.8 million expectation by Capcom and it sold nearly 4 million. Onimusha 2 had a 1.5 million expectation and sold over 2 million. Same goes for Devil May Cry. So crazy expectations or not they set theirselves up in certain ways and they ship certain units because they want to sell a certain amount of units. For Gamecube this has not exactly been a healthy proposition so far.
But that's not why they will stop making games for Gamecube anyway. It's because this generation is essentially over and third party games are a hazard on GC because they almost never do well. So they're not going to start super development on more GC titles after Killer7 even if RE4 does well.
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Amir0x said:
i can't imagine namco being angry with the peformance of their gamecube titles. soul calibur II did extremely well, they've sold a bunch of pac-man world 2 (many due to the inclusion of pac-man vs i'm assuming), and tales of symphonia did much better than anyone thought it would from what i remember. what else? r:evolution bombed everywhere. i'm sure they'll make out okay on the star fox deal. not every game can be a hit...
I think you misunderstand me, Namco still has quite a few projects in development for the Gamecube, but not in a publishing sense. Namco is working on titles such as Star Fox Assault, Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat, Mario Baseball and Donkey Konga II and III. In esscence, they are filling the development void left by Rareware.
Symphonia was supposed to sell 500k in Japan, and only made 315k. Around Christmas last year Namco of Japan said they were disappointed with Symphonia's performance.Odnetnin said:
Though, I have no idea what they think of the international performance. Currently it's outsold every other US Tales release combined.
Actually that isn't true. In fact REmake and REZero surpassed Capcom's initial expectations. In 2003 GameCube was the only console who's software as a whole exceeded expectations too, while Xbox and PS2 both came in under targets for Capcom.Amir0x said:
The only GameCube game we know came in below expectation was Viewtiful Joe. And really, it did pretty well considering it's genre. It also underpreformed on PS2.
Edit- a little more research and I'm partially wrong. RE0 and Remake both exceeded launch expectations (in Japan) but RE0 at least came in under expectation in the end (by about 300k worldwide). Not sure about REmake.
Then again, pretty much every notable PS2 game from Capcom besides DMC1, Onimusha 1-2 and Monster Hunter has come in under expectations, as have all notable Xbox games (besides Tekki). If Capcom's cutting GCN support based off lower than expected results, they should do the same for PS2 and Xbox. GBA only?
SantaC
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RE4 commerical is up on Capcom.com!
http://www.capcom.com/re4/gui.html
Select movies, then Movie C
only GC mentioned.
http://www.capcom.com/re4/gui.html
Select movies, then Movie C
only GC mentioned.
radioheadrule83
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(edit: Sweet! ^^)
I know there were titles that Capcom were happy with. They were happy with Viewtiful Joe's popularity on Gamecube definately... or at least the creator was, he says as much in one of the latest VJ2 interviews. The other may have been REmake. That or Zero.
Expectations aside - a game selling a million plus still stands to make 40 million dollars or more, about 3 to 4 times as much as this gen's average costs. Given that RE is a remake of an existing game, that probably wasn't so bad. They seem to be winning some brand loyalty with the Nintendo fans, and lest we forget this is the company that had nice Dreamcast support, so we can bet they'll be on board with Revolution too.
I think we can kiss franchise exclusivity goodbye. Maybe Nintendo will get time-exclusives again, but I can't see them getting the commitment of a whole series of games until a given year again.
I know there were titles that Capcom were happy with. They were happy with Viewtiful Joe's popularity on Gamecube definately... or at least the creator was, he says as much in one of the latest VJ2 interviews. The other may have been REmake. That or Zero.
Expectations aside - a game selling a million plus still stands to make 40 million dollars or more, about 3 to 4 times as much as this gen's average costs. Given that RE is a remake of an existing game, that probably wasn't so bad. They seem to be winning some brand loyalty with the Nintendo fans, and lest we forget this is the company that had nice Dreamcast support, so we can bet they'll be on board with Revolution too.
I think we can kiss franchise exclusivity goodbye. Maybe Nintendo will get time-exclusives again, but I can't see them getting the commitment of a whole series of games until a given year again.
Smiles and Cries
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SantaCruZer said:
They did well relative to other games, but for a series used to selling well into the millions there's no denying those are dissapointing numbers for Capcom (especially at the lower price a lot of them sold at). Just look at what Code: Veronica X sold on PS2.
But I agree completely on Zero--it was solid but, outside of the partner system, it was RE by the numbers. They were running on fumes (giant fleas? puh-lease). Thank god for RE4
Well it's to be expected somewhat, RE Zero was a side project from an outside team rooted in N64 design.... the fact it sold at all being released only 6 months following the previous Resident Evil is a miracle.
Also, it sold 1.12M worldwide, which is below Capcom's official expectation of 1.42M (which is about what REmake managed).
Also, it sold 1.12M worldwide, which is below Capcom's official expectation of 1.42M (which is about what REmake managed).
Silent_Echo
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The commercial should play during Smackdown if anybody watches it. It should be on during that since all the commercials are video game related. Plus thats the target demographic, so for the first time in a few months I'm watching SmackDown.
Robert-GCA
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Wow, you really are as ignorant as I thought Amir0x. Might wanna pull your head out once in a while and take a breath. If you took 5 seconds to read the article, it clearly states in there that what we wrote was based on/included factual stats from gamerankings, and IGN, Gamespot, Gamestop, and EBGames as secondary sources. When was the last time you even visited? Seems like it hasn't been for quite a while. I garauntee we are more objetive now than we were then.Amir0x said:
RE0/REmake both met expectations (both over 1 million world-wide), Viewtiful Joe beat expectations, and PN03 wasn't very good in the first place. Mega Man games aren't all that great either. To me it seems to be more Capcom's fault than anyone elses because of the lackluster titles.
Dying system? Hardly. As long as its selling systems its living. Why are companies sinking significant dev time into Xbox when Xbox 2 is rumored to come out next year? Seems as pointless to me as your theory for Cube in '06.
Edit:spelling
Robert-GCA said:
wow.. you hit the head on your opinion on Amirox. His posts are mostly pseudo-argumentative/intelligent.. but very often baseless. I was impressed with his earlier posts and then it just got too much. word vomit; his latter posts are all very smirk smirk self-satisfied and I found them trying.
Back on topic:
I would love to see the RE4 ad... I downloaded the RE0+Remake ad awhile back and shock/horror... its mostly game fmv! Hopefully, they can convey how rocking this game is.. RE4 is going to be the first big release in 2004. Hope it doesn't bomb.
ps just saw the link.. anyway to save the movie as a qt? it seems to load out as a .swf.
Robert-GCA said:
Hey guys, it's a post from someone at GCA! This post must be objective in his observation of the site! To answer your last question, you're right I haven't visited in "a while." I don't visit shite sites.
First of all, your "factual sources" state clearly after your real facts - the part about the rankings - that much of future development on Gamecube hinges on Resident Evil 4's success. Now, first, you did not list any "source" with this. Vaguely saying "IGN" said it or "Gamespot" said it is not even remotely convincing. Unless the company itself has, at some point, said development hinges on the success of RE4 then it's really all just one step above speculation.
Let me show you what's not speculation.
Robert-GCA said:
Capcom announces sales expectations for fiscal year 2003; to ship more than 1 million copies to Japan.
Or what about this!?
Capcom expected to sell 1.42 million RE0; sells only 1.12 million
And what about Viewtiful Joe? Oh, maybe you're still skeptical!
Let's hear it from Capcom's mouth:
Capcom states Viewtiful Joe performing under expectations
Capcom on NA said:
Capcom on Europe said:
Hm. Yeah, seems like Capcom is pleased.
Robert-GCA said:
*cough*
Uhm, development for Xbox is slowing down. There will always be development until the end, but it's the rate at which we begin to see this slow down that is important. Once Xenon is "officially" announced then the spigot will officially begin to be turned off. For Gamecube, the same applies. The only difference is third party games notoriously do awful on Gamecube.
You can go back to your daily Nintendo fellating now.
Odnetnin said:
Was this post 'baseless' enough for you, Odnetnin? Or do you want to sink with the junior member ship?