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[Bo_Hazem]

If true, does it have to do with the support of AV1, the new compression that is slightly better than H.265 in compression/quality and open source (no licensing required vs H.265)? PS4 Pro and PS5 support it:

Netflix enables its bandwidth-saving AV1 codec on PS4 Pro and select TVs

Netflix says AV1 delivers better video quality and uses lesser bandwidth than the codecs it's currently using.

www.engadget.com

Why AV1? Saves a LOT of data streaming bandwidth = money savings while giving double the quality of H.264 for the same bitrate (or same quality for half the bitrate like Y YCoCg said). It doesn't need to be hardware accelerated, but preferred of course, and does it have to do with RAM complications/split on Xbox?

Seems like the issue is there since last year:

This link is from last year. So the problem seems to be old too.

 

[YCoCg]

Saves a LOT of data streaming stress = money savings while giving double the quality of H.264 for the same bitrate.

You mean it gives the same quality for half the bitrate

 

[Daneel Elijah]

This link is from last year. So the problem seems to be old too.

 

[mrmustard]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

 

[remember_spinal]

To stop them from watching The Last of Us on xbox

 

[Bo_Hazem]

You mean it gives the same quality for half the bitrate

Or that I think Netflix is like 15Mbps in AV1 for 4K HDR 10-bit?

 

[onQ123]

Sony: Hey you know how that Last Of Us Show is doing so great on HBO? Yeah we're gonna need for you to do us a favor

HBO: Say no more

 

[YCoCg]

Or that I think Netflix is like 15Mbps in AV1 for 4K HDR 10-bit?

It's still down to like 7Mbit/s in parts of Europe, they never raised the cap from 2020.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

That's something I can't comprehend. I only use native apps on the TV itself and looks brilliant to me.

 

[Connificent]

Fuck HBO and Bella Ramsey

 

[Brucey]

To stop them from watching The Last of Us on xbox

Sony nabs another timed exclusive! There were no game developers left...

 

[Pelta88]

Please tell me this is temporary.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Please tell me this is temporary.

This is temporary.

Here I told you but I have no idea.

 

[Ronin_7]

There's a product for you if you want HBO at 4K.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Looks like HBO has decided to step in the console war to support their new close partners at Sony. Gave them access to one Playstation Ip and they're already hooked.

 

[ReBurn]

i use the app on my TV so I'm probably already getting lousy bitrates.

 

[Skyfox]

Fake news

 

[Unknown?]

That's something I can't comprehend. I only use native apps on the TV itself and looks brilliant to me.

I do. I turn off internet to my TV because I hate smart TVs. I might switch to a large monitor.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

i use the app on my TV so I'm probably already getting lousy bitrates.

How? I think Netflix, for example, looks brilliant on my 2016 old TV. Even HDR videos look great. Maybe because it's Android (Sony)?

 

[TheUsual]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

I use all the major streaming apps on my PS5.
The remote control is synced up with my TV as well so I can turn the TV on and off along with the PS5.

We have a Roku that's hooked up in our bedroom.

 

[wvnative]

Why the hell would they do this?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I do. I turn off internet to my TV because I hate smart TVs. I might switch to a large monitor.

Then you haven't tried this trick:

My old Sony XD70 tv has a 3.5mm audio jack, so I plug in 2x extension cables for a total of 8 meters. After than you put a splitter at the end of it then two 3.5mm headphones. Enjoy the film without making noise with your waifu, especially if there is a kid around.

 

[wvnative]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

Yes, it is the best option imo. Smart TV's often have poor wi-fi or laggy interfaces, and in my experence, gets funky with external sound equipment. PS4/PS5, Xbox One/Series are all in my experience, fast and simple, all in one boxes.

 

[digdug2]

It's got to be a glitch or unintended side effect from a SW update. I highly doubt that it's malice toward paying customers that happen to be using an Xbox.

 

[AJUMP23]

I didn't know hbo max streamed 4k.

 

[calistan]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

I see people on my Xbox friends list using the console for BBC iPlayer and Netflix. Seems weird to me, either they have a crappy old TV with no built-in apps or they just don't have a clue about how much electricity they're using.

 

[ReBurn]

How? I think Netflix, for example, looks brilliant on my 2016 old TV. Even HDR videos look great. Maybe because it's Android (Sony)?

I think what I watch looks fine for streaming 4K over wifi. If I wanted the best picture quality I wouldn't be watching via streaming.

 

[mrmustard]

Yes, it is the best option imo. Smart TV's often have poor wi-fi or laggy interfaces, and in my experence, gets funky with external sound equipment. PS4/PS5, Xbox One/Series are all in my experience, fast and simple, all in one boxes.

Depends on the tv i guess, but any decent tv can do this. I got a Sony 65X94K which is far from highend or super expensive, but everything works like a charm including my Samsung soundbar.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Depends on the tv i guess, but any decent tv can do this. I got a Sony 65X94K which is far from highend or super expensive, but everything works like a charm including my Samsung soundbar.

Yeah mostly these other TV's like LG, Samsung that use proprietary OS vs Android. My Sony XD70 since 2016 hasn't stopped updating for nearly 7 years and my other LG stopped after 1.5 year and full of annoying bugs.

 

[Thabass]

This is very odd. What's the point of this? I use Apple TV, for TV streaming so it doesn't really affect me too much, but it doesn't make any sense to me why they would get rid of a big feature like this...unless Sony got into WB's ear.

 

[rofif]

But the app is on the tv. Who uses console app

 

[M1chl]

I never get a good bitrate for streaming in here. Does not matter where I am playing it.

Where it pains me the most is tha Quest 2 app, shit quality, but nice ambiance. Really helps me to get into the movie, but when it is constantly "blocking" its unwatchable

 

[wvnative]

Depends on the tv i guess, but any decent tv can do this. I got a Sony 65X94K which is far from highend or super expensive, but everything works like a charm including my Samsung soundbar.

I wholly admit this is mostly coming from my experience with 2015/2016 TV's, it maybe better now. But, in my bedroom, I just default to my consoles, it's my main mode of operation and they just work for me as I expect. For our living room, the TV is a much older smart tv that barely kept it's wi-fi connection, and now they discontinued most of the apps on it anyway. We should upgrade it, but we mostly binge watch older shows so buying a new 4k tv makes little sense, still looks great on the shows we watch, we use an xbox one x.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

This is very odd. What's the point of this? I use Apple TV, for TV streaming so it doesn't really affect me too much, but it doesn't make any sense to me why they would get rid of a big feature like this...unless Sony got into WB's ear.

AV1 support is all that comes to mind so far, no other conclusion.

 

[JackMcGunns]

Take note MS Lawyers, add this to the list for the ABK acquisition.

 

[JackMcGunns]

AV1 support is all that comes to mind so far, no other conclusion.

The ONLY thing that comes to mind, I wonder why?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I wholly admit this is mostly coming from my experience with 2015/2016 TV's, it maybe better now. But, in my bedroom, I just default to my consoles, it's my main mode of operation and they just work for me as I expect. For our living room, the TV is a much older smart tv that barely kept it's wi-fi connection, and now they discontinued most of the apps on it anyway. We should upgrade it, but we mostly binge watch older shows so buying a new 4k tv makes little sense, still looks great on the shows we watch, we use an xbox one x.

No need to upgrade the TV, mate. In worst case scenario:

Amazon.com: Google Chromecast with Google TV (4K)- Streaming Stick Entertainment with Voice Search - Watch Movies, Shows, and Live TV in 4K HDR - Snow : Electronics

Buy Google Chromecast with Google TV (4K)- Streaming Stick Entertainment with Voice Search - Watch Movies, Shows, and Live TV in 4K HDR - Snow: Streaming Media Players - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

Just plug it into any of your HDMI ports and enjoy.

 

[fermcr]

Sony removes 4K and Dolby Vision support.
Microsoft removes Call of Duty...

 

[Spukc]

if true this is so fucking sad

 

[wvnative]

No need to upgrade the TV, mate. In worst case scenario:

Amazon.com: Google Chromecast with Google TV (4K)- Streaming Stick Entertainment with Voice Search - Watch Movies, Shows, and Live TV in 4K HDR - Snow : Electronics

Buy Google Chromecast with Google TV (4K)- Streaming Stick Entertainment with Voice Search - Watch Movies, Shows, and Live TV in 4K HDR - Snow: Streaming Media Players - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

Just plug it into any of your HDMI ports and enjoy.

Why the hell would I buy that when the Xbox One X we already use works great?

 

[MasterCornholio]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

Blu rays but that's about it. My TV handles everything else.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Why the hell would I buy that when the Xbox One X we already use works great?

For the one in the living room?

 

[VolticArchangel]

That's something I can't comprehend. I only use native apps on the TV itself and looks brilliant to me.

I'm guessing HDMI passthrough to receiver via eArc, if they cared about a surround setup.

 

[solidus12]

PlayStation being anti-consumer, AGAIN.

 

[wvnative]

For the one in the living room?

Yeah, we use the Xbox in there.

 

[Brucey]

i use the app on my TV so I'm probably already getting lousy bitrates.

In my experience for things like Disney+, HBO Max etc the built in tv apps provide great image quality (Sony Bravia/Google TV and LG WebOS).

 

[SplunkyMunkey]

What's this got to do with Sony? This is down to hbo not Sony. So some comments gonna be a fanboy comment or anti consumer comment

 

[mhirano]

 

[Brucey]

I didn't know hbo max streamed 4k.

Depends on the device.

 

[nowhat]

Do people really use their consoles to watch stuff? The power consumption is too high in my opinion.

Yeah, this. I should like to think people having a current gen console have also a TV with contemporary apps*).

*) Which suck, sure, but they're not that better on a console.