Billbill-kun: €599 for the Xbox Ally and €899 for the Xbox Ally X
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clarky
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I think the Ally has sold around 600k ? This is just a very slightly revised version so maybe it might sell the same if its lucky?
Like you say its niche of niche. They must know this though going into it.
Kacho
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Punished Miku
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Literally everyone has said these are niche devices sold for profit upfront on the hardware. They're not subsidized mass market items.
clarky
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Thought they'd ditched that idea?
HeisenbergFX4
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Oh they will be the greatest thing ever to him in about 2 yearsDefinitely not for him
Topher
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They did
Kacho
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Are we sure that's still in the cards?
This device is for PC gamers and PC gamers only. Console bros will wait for next gen TV box.
Punished Miku
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All we know that's official is Sarah Bond and AMD saying they're "co-engineering silicon chips across a portfolio of devices including the next generation Xbox consoles."
Cyberpunkd
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I love paying for online play and games!
Cyberpunkd
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Topher
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They never officially said they were making a handheld at all. It was said they were working on one and then it was said they ditched it. No one should be expecting a handheld directly from Microsoft is the point.
justiceiro
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When Nintendo pulled that $80 game price tag, Xbox felt confident enough to charge the same, only to walk back. Did the switch 2 price also gave them the confidence to charge that for this, or they will come to their senses before price is officially revealed this time?
Punished Miku
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It was unofficially announced and unofficially canceled. No one has anything official on it, period. All we know is there's a portfolio of devices in the works using the AMD chip for BC.
HeisenbergFX4
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I think canceled isn't the right word, shelved or even as described to me a "holding pattern"
That said we will never see it
Topher
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Yeah....that's pretty much what I said
Punished Miku
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What are your thoughts on a ROG style device with their new line of custom chips?
drganon
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rm082e
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He's not. He knows full well this thing is going no where. His hands are tied by the larger Microsoft business. He's trying to operate within a set of boundaries that have been defined for him.
dragonyeuw
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Heisenberg007
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HeisenbergFX4
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Honestly I am not a huge handheld type of person as I just never even turn on my Steamdeck as its just not a fun experience for me
I honestly think its my size of being 6'8" with massive hands and a 7'1" wingspan I just can't find a super comfy position to play with handhelds
They seem like decent devices though
SomeNorseGuy
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All they need is to sell enough to cover R&D, production and logistics - as they sell these at a profit. What that number is, is anyones guess. But seeing as they keep on making 'em they must be hitting that threshold.
Apart from an updated chip and an early peak at the "full screen experience" the biggest draw to this version, for me at least, is the much improved ergonomics. These are heavy devices, so any added comfort is godsend.
I wanted to wait for Steam Deck 2 before getting another handheld, but I might consider picking this up if it gets positive feedback and this new OS revision actually turns out to benchmark well.
Apart from an updated chip and an early peak at the "full screen experience" the biggest draw to this version, for me at least, is the much improved ergonomics. These are heavy devices, so any added comfort is godsend.
I wanted to wait for Steam Deck 2 before getting another handheld, but I might consider picking this up if it gets positive feedback and this new OS revision actually turns out to benchmark well.
lughnasadh123
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Really makes you wonder what price point Xbox's handheld will launch at.
Magic Carpet
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If only Valve would hint at whats next. Nothing so far.
I think 100 million Switch 2's will be in hands before the Deck 2 is available.
Dorfdad
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And don't forget the os is gong to be basically a beta mess! No thanks.
I collect VHS tapes
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I don't think I've ever seen someone use one of these PC handheld's in public
There's obviously some sort of market, but there's also a lot of people making handhelds
There's obviously some sort of market, but there's also a lot of people making handhelds
Fess
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That could be coming in 2 years or not at all, was postponed iirc, and we know nothing about it.
This one is coming very soon, and it's an improved iteration of a well-known Windows handheld with added Xbox controller ergonomics and Xbox button, it doesn't feel like a gamble to jump in at launch.
I'm excited, last Windows handheld I had was a Compaq iPAQ
So buy a weaker version of this with worse UX at the same price, because reasons?
Lmao
Fess
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I've never taken any of the 4 Switches, 1 Switch 2, 2 Steam Decks outside.
I brought Steam Deck to work once to show off my Unity game for like 15 minutes, that's all.
The appeal for me is not being stuck to the TV in my house, plus bed gaming. Bonus, I finished FF7 Remake on the Deck because I could leave it on the retry menu at the 2nd fight and put it in sleep mode!
StereoVsn
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US Price is still a question though as that's not clear.
IMO, right now the best way to go if you want Windows is to get a used Ally OG for like $350ish, get expanded battery mod for $50-70 and 1TB drive (don't use SD card on this thing) for another $70ish.
SomeNorseGuy
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Could be a while until we hear anything yet, they did say they weren't planning another one until a markedly hardware improvement were at hand. What that implies is anyones guess. Could be they're waiting for AMD to release a RDNA4 APU.If only Valve would hint at whats next. Nothing so far.
I think 100 million Switch 2's will be in hands before the Deck 2 is available.
StereoVsn
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10" Android Tablet plus one of newer Bluetooth controllers! You can stream games, play emulated stuff, etc…
HeisenbergFX4
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Yeah I have done a little bit of that with my 13" Ipad Pro and a dualsense controller it just loses most of that portability
Going to sound super dumb but I use this set up in bed more than anywhere after my wife falls asleep since I usually have a hard time falling asleep anyhow and being one of those people that functions great on about 5 hours sleep
I have a tablet holding stand mounted above my headboard that holds the Ipad however far from my face I want depending on what I am playing thus freeing up my hands for the controller
Topher
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Yeah, I was assuming it would follow the same pricing now. 899 euros is 899 dollars. Funny how that works out considering the exchange rate isn't one to one, but one includes taxes and the other doesn't. I'd be surprised if the US pricing is higher than that though. If they try to charge $999 then I don't see the point.
schaft0620
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People who think that US pricing will be lower because of the market buying software, forgot about tariffs. I don't think it will be lower regardless.
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diffusionx
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I've seen a few Steam Decks but none of the other ones. I honestly even think the sales they claim are massively inflated.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
"The Xbox Fullscreen Experience"
Microsoft marketing trips over the office rug again.
Hammering home that this is an Xbox thing, and not a Windows gaming thing.
Actually I half expect to see that in order to launch Steam, We will need to exit out of the new gaming mode and into the full windows mode complete with extra memory requirements and desktop.
Steam games might actually run worse because of this.
Prove me wrong Microsoft. Got any of them hands on benchmarks before release day?
Mr Hyde
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This would really suck if this is the case. Hoping for a smooth and streamlined UI, full game compatibility and easy access to Steam and GoG. No Windows bullshit except when necessary.
Zacfoldor
Member
That's the neat part. They can't. They are painted in a corner and we are all taking the ride.
Only Sony can save Xbox now. Don't worry though, Sony are trying real hard to fuck up enough to save them, but it will require an amount of fucking up as yet unplumbed.
Xbox's next move will be to charge an outrageous amount for the next home hardware and also implement all the things we've hated over the years in the hardware because they no longer care.
What will Sony do? Probably copy them and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It seems to me that Sony doesn't want Xbox out of hardware and that all the people running sony have imposter syndrome with very, very good reason.
clarky
Gold Member
To be fair I travel loads. Planes, trains (not automobiles) and don't even see that many Switches. Which is odd considering.
djjinx2
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Wait until this thing releases and people forget it's a niche portable PC and pile on it's such a failure due to low sales.
#xboxisreallydead
Personally I'm interested but it's too expensive. £500 for the Z2 extreme version in a year and I'll bite. These kind of handhelds are my ultimate emulator machine.
#xboxisreallydead
Personally I'm interested but it's too expensive. £500 for the Z2 extreme version in a year and I'll bite. These kind of handhelds are my ultimate emulator machine.
xrnzaaas
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They're probably too large to have them with you during everyday commutes, maybe on longer journeys. The reality is that using a phone to play some games for 15-30 minutes will be way easier for many people.