iHaunter
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$1k Handheld is DOA.Yeah, and it comes with a better chipset.
Not for me but for those folks who like their PC handhelds, this seems like a decent enough deal I guess
Billbill-kun: €599 for the Xbox Ally and €899 for the Xbox Ally X
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Kacho
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DOA compared to what? A console?
Radical_3d
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Hero_Select
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"Why is the Switch 2 not more powerful???"
This is why. Cram power into a portable console and the price skyrockets. It's cool for it to exist and I don't think XBOX is expecting it to sell tens of millions of it anyway but that is pretty damn expensive.
This is why. Cram power into a portable console and the price skyrockets. It's cool for it to exist and I don't think XBOX is expecting it to sell tens of millions of it anyway but that is pretty damn expensive.
iHaunter
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Switch 2 or Steamdeck. Why would anyone buy this? They're literally half the price.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Why would anyone buy a Rog Ally in general, it's for that crowd, a slightly better version at the same price.
HJuggernaut
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if these handhelds cost this much, how much will the nexgen consoles cost?
kevboard
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less. because these handhelds aren't subsidised. even tho they have a partnership with Microsoft here, Asus still has to make back the R&D and sell the system at a price that gives them a decen margin to do so and make a profit.
a console doesn't have to do this. those can be sold as a loss or with 0 profit margins because accessories, game licenses and online subscriptions are the money makers.
if the Switch 2 wasn't a console, but a PC handheld made by Asus, HP, Ayaneo etc., it would probably cost 600€ at a minimum, with the potential for more than that.
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Magic Carpet
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4 figures.
$1000 USD
demigod
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This is wrong. The next xbox are going to be over $1k.
HJuggernaut
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you for real? that means 1800 in europe easy, smart move would be to keep them at 499.
Magic Carpet
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Unless some new technology shows up in the next few years, I expect people to have sticker shock with the next gen consoles.
Topher
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Switch 2 is being subsidized. This is not and it is an open platform so you can do whatever you want with it. It is really the same console vs PC argument all over again except in the handheld format.
The great equalizer between console and PC with handhelds, however, is both are limited by battery constraints.
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ZehDon
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Add to this that both Sony and Microsoft are obviously moving away from subsidised hardware, and yeah - next gen consoles are going to be very expensive.
//DEVIL//
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I don't think the Switch 2 is subsidized. after all they making profit from that system alone.
from my understanding a subsidized system is where a company sells at cost or slightly below cost in favor of gaining profit somewhere else. Nintendo is making a profit on everything.
Mister Wolf
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We gotta see how well that cut down Windows performs.
Topher
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Maybe subsidized isn't the right word for Switch and PS5 where a small profit is made, but they are able to keep the price down because of the closed ecosystem. From my understanding, that's subsidized. If there is a better word for it then someone correct me.
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Unfortunatecookie
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People that will buy it are pictured below:
Topher
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That is by the far the most interesting aspect of what looks like a decent update to Rog Ally, but nothing mind blowing.
Topher
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UltimaKilo
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"Subsidized" is not at all the right word here, since that is not what they are doing. The price is not "down", they are running a profit on every unit sold, that is why the price is high.
Topher
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Was referring to consoles, not Rog ally
diffusionx
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Europe isn't real
hououinkyouma00
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There is a market but it's a very niche market and this is a $900-1000 USD device within that niche market.
People act like these handheld gaming PCs are this mass market popular device. The entire market has only sold around 6M units since 2022 (as of 2/2025) and 4M of those were the Steam Deck so that leaves like 2M units devised between ALL of the other devices of which there are a lot. None of these sell very well.
Combine that with the fact that the Xbox brand has been hemorrhaging for years and it's not like this is going to be this super high seller.
hououinkyouma00
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The only difference with consoles is that Sony/Nintendo will still make money off of money and accessories while somebody like ASUS has nothing to fall back on besides the sale of the unit itself.
RickMasters
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Was anybody really expecting it to cost less than a regular ally?
newtypepilot
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people need to realize that not only is the market for an expensive handheld VERY niche, but there are also competitors in the same space like the lenovo legion go and msi claw, so MS is fighting for a piece of a very small pie. Most people who want portable gaming are just going to get a steamdeck or switch 2, both of which are less expensive. Better yet, they'll just play on their phones when more and more games are getting mobile ports.
tbh, asus is laughing all the way to bank that MS is dumb enough to pay them for a product that isn't a mass mover.
tbh, asus is laughing all the way to bank that MS is dumb enough to pay them for a product that isn't a mass mover.
clarky
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This isn't supposed to compete with the Switch 2 you lunatic.
Im aware of all that. The poster I was replying to claimed it was "DOA"
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