He once said playing Metal Gear Solid 5 would be '60 hours of humiliation,' but Snake actor David Hayter finally played the game: 'All is forgiven'

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He once said playing Metal Gear Solid 5 would be '60 hours of humiliation,' but Snake actor David Hayter finally played the game: 'All is forgiven'

Also, apparently Kiefer Sutherland is a good time.
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Back when MGS5 released, Hayter was—perhaps understandably—reluctant to give the game a go, describing the notion of playing it as "60 hours of humiliation" in an interview. But in a chat with PC Gamer to mark the upcoming release of Metal Gear Solid Delta, he said he's finally given it a try, and you know what? It's pretty good.

"Well, there was reluctance," said Hayter. "I didn't want to play the game because I figured it would hurt my feelings. Then, you know, 10 years went by and I was like, 'Ah, to hell with my feelings. What do I care?' … I'm a screenwriter, so I get fired for a living, like I literally, eventually, get fired from every single gig that I've got, and I'm not a child."

"I was like, 'Stop being a baby and play the game.' So I played it. It's amazing."

Hayter says it gave him a new perspective on a few fan interactions over the years. "I would ask fans, 'What's your favourite Metal Gear?' And if they said Metal Gear Solid 5 I'd be like, 'What the hell, dude? Like, you know, thanks. Do you wanna give me a paper cut as well? Maybe pour some lemon juice on it?' And then I played it and I'm like, 'I think this is my favourite gameplay of the series.'

"The fact that you can go into the same scenario each time, and the [enemy] soldier's gonna be doing the same thing, but you can take on different routes or different strategies of attack, makes it feel like time travel… So, yes, that was badass. So far as I'm concerned, all is forgiven."

Apparently, Hayter even bumped into his substitute at one point. "I ran into Kiefer Sutherland at a bar in Dallas," he recalls, " and we had a bunch of drinks. And he's a great guy, you know? No, no ill will. All is forgiven."
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It bothers me how David had such a cool voice in MGS1 and 2 but then vocal direction took him to a place where I was happy to not hear his voice in V. Shouldn't have been that way but it was. I do think Kiefer was more than capable of being a really good Venom/Big Boss but the game's base design killed any shot at that. There's really something and the first couple games that the rest of the series is missing. Shame.
 
I remember missing his voice a lot, still a weird move if you had him for 4 games and then you probably knew this was going to be the last one to not just let him end it ?
 
About time. I appreciated his work as Snake but at the end of the day, it's just a role and actors being replaced isn't exactly a rare occurance.
 
I love the guy and I'm sorry he didn't get the chance to work on MGSV. I think the game would have been better than what it was with him as Snake.

I understand what Kojima tried to do with the Venom Snake thing but it doesn't make sense. The crappy explanation they gave at the end could have justified the voice what the same.

The sad truth is that Kojima felt like sucking some Hollywood cock and Hayter is just a B celebrity.
 
Never really got attached to Hayter like most of the mgs fanbase.
I utterly enjoyed Kiefer Sutherland in MGSV.
Having Hayter play Solid and Kiefer play Big Boss would be the perfect compromise imo.
Headlines like this just make my eyes roll, "all is forgiven"? What is there to forgive? Arrogant ass attitude, he's a very mediocre voice actor. I'm cringing just from thinking what if Hayter did the heartless sea speech from Phantom Pain for example.
 
This whole VA swap was a big nothing burger for me honestly. Mainly because Kiefer voiced like 15 sentences at best, there was barely any convo there. More grunting and listening to cassette tapes. I am confident the only reason he was there was for Kojima to squeeze into Holywood so that a famous actor promotes his game.
 
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The way they used the FOX Engine to create this game, the gameplay feeling, the animations and top notch interpolated motion that gave you an absolutely amazing feeling in your fingers.

Love David Hayter and would love a Kojima X David Hayter non-Venom Snake game again, but we will forever feel the pain of a missing limb.
 
diffusionx said:
David Hayter is cringe and needs to get over himself. Someone needs to tell him he's not actually Solid Snake.
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I don't know, for me he always comes across as very passionate about the role of Snake. He is a fan of the games and he knows that many players love him in that role. And he cares for that character.
It's like Troy Baker. He often starts crying when talking about his characters, especially Joel.
On the other hand, when you hear Hollywood actors talk about a role in a videogame, it's usually just a job for them.
 
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I absolutely loved the gameplay in that one too - like an eighties action movie sandbox and either either an amazing canine buddy or Quiet!

The balloons as well - just brilliant
 
Kojima was a fucking idiot for betraying like this an amazing voice actor like David Hayter. He was the soul of the character and he killed by introducing Kiefer Sutherland which I love as an actor but he didn't feel like Snake, but other character. And yes I know Venom Snake is not the character we are supposed to think he is but the Japanese version still used the voice of Snake so there is no excuse.

Kojima was an asshole here, no matter how you look at it. His ego sometimes makes him a villain
 
EviLore said:
Would've been better with Hayter though.
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Pointing Up Morgan Freeman GIF by MOODMAN
 
Gonzito said:
Kojima was a fucking idiot for betraying like this an amazing voice actor like David Hayter. He was the soul of the character and he killed by introducing Kiefer Sutherland which I love as an actor but he didn't feel like Snake, but other character. And yes I know Venom Snake is not the character we are supposed to think he is but the Japanese version still used the voice of Snake so there is no excuse.

Kojima was an asshole here, no matter how you look at it. His ego sometimes makes him a villain
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This! And besides, at least here in Germany, nobody gave a shit about Kiefer Sutherland being in the game. It didn't mean anything, except that Snake didn't sound like Snake anymore! And personally, I immediately missed Hayter's distinctive voice.
That Sutherland did the voicework was nothing but a gift from Kojima TO Kojima!
 
Physiognomonics said:
Best thing about this game is everything not Kojima-esque. The gameplay part that has been directed by his team is peak MGS gameplay.
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What are you on about? Its no less Kojima-esque than the rest of the series!

The reason why its so good is basically because it was the last Metal Gear Game that Kojima actually wanted to make, everything after he was somewhat strong-armed into making by Konami and resulted in him trying all sorts of experimental stuff in order to keep himself invested and fans interested.

This was back when he could work on other stuff like ZOE and Boktai, the next 10 years he was stuck doing the one franchise over and over leading to him rebelling and starting Silent Hills off his own back, at which point he got fired and the project canned.

It was a classic example of a creative becoming trapped by the success of his own creation. A particularly frustrating scenario in games where each project occupies years of their career.

Also, I have to say the pettyness of retroactively trying to minimize Kojima's (or any creative for that matter's) input, presumably because you don't like his later works as much, is an aspect of modern fandom I fucking despise.
 
Big Boss has like 12 voice lines in the entire game, so it's not like he's getting Kiefer'd for 60 hours.
 
Embearded said:
It would have been better if Snake had any lines at all.
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It's crazy that they fucking ditched Hayter to get some "A-List" celebrity like Sutherland, only then to be stingy with money and subsequently not having him have a lot of voiced lines.

Like what the fuck was the fucking point, then? (Aside from the fact that Hayter is a better voice actor then Sutherland).
 
I like Kojima and him fanboying over celebrities he works with can be endearing since it's so earnest. But this was an example of it undermining the game since it seemed like he just made the switch so he could hang out with Kiefer Sutherland.

It's a great game in a lot of ways. The number of options it gives you and how those can interact with each other and the open world is incredible. But towards the end it felt unfinished and was clearly Konami saying "fuck it, we need to ship something now."
 
Hudo said:
It's crazy that they fucking ditched Hayter to get some "A-List" celebrity like Sutherland, only then to be stingy with money and subsequently not having him have a lot of voiced lines.

Like what the fuck was the fucking point, then? (Aside from the fact that Hayter is a better voice actor then Sutherland).
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Snake talks less after the accident with all the confusion in his head etc. i understand this reason and sounds logical to me, but they could have included more lines with the real Big Boss at least.
 
He was fine in 1 and 2 but got too cartoony after.

But, Kojima was a giant idiot for his behaviour as well, and his obsession with Hollywood. Lost a great deal of respect for him during and after V.

Hell, I still believe Konami made the right decision and saw he was going insane.
 
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Lambogenie said:
He was fine in 1 and 2 but got too cartoony after.

But, Kojima was a giant idiot for his behaviour as well, and his obsession with Hollywood. Lost a great deal of respect for him during and after V.

Hell, I still believe Konami made the right decision and saw he was going insane.
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If Konami was stopping Kojima from making delivery simulators, I'd say they made the right decision too.
 
CellarDoor81 said:
This! And besides, at least here in Germany, nobody gave a shit about Kiefer Sutherland being in the game. It didn't mean anything, except that Snake didn't sound like Snake anymore! And personally, I immediately missed Hayter's distinctive voice.
That Sutherland did the voicework was nothing but a gift from Kojima TO Kojima!
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Nobody cared ANYWHERE that Kiefer was voicing. The only reason his name was even mentioned by fans was due to Hayter missing. The Rock could of voiced snake and majority of the fanbase wouldnt even care or get hyped about something like that. It was only for Kojima.
 
For me MGS 5 is lowest point in the series, I don't regret trading it in to this day, I'd rather have something more immersive like Portable Ops, and Peacewalker were, not bothered about the free roam...

 
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11 days to Delta. Or 9 with the digital deluxe edition. I'm getting the Xbox Series S version. I hope it runs well.

RAIDEN1 said:
For me MGS 5 is lowest point in the series, I don't regret trading it in to this day, I'd rather have something more immersive like Portable Ops, and Peacewalker were, not bothered about the free roam...

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For Peace Walker is the lowest point. I can't see myself replaying it from the start.
 
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justiceiro said:
He ran on a bar with the recovering alcoholic Kiefer Sutherland? Lmao, I love this guy.
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Kiefer Sutherland has on multiple occasions in the past decade said that he won't give up alcohol and I haven't heard anything to the contrary. At least he's honest.
 
I said this at the time, that having snake have a different voice actor makes complete sense in V... the issue is when they didn't give Hayter any lines in the game at all.

Like can you imagine if thats what they did, how the fanbase would of reacted. Sadly Kojima just wanted someone else to voice snake, it was so surface level, it could of been part of the huge reveal, Such a shame.
 
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