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[Neofire]

I think it's actually Satya Nadella. He is a visionary with incredible foresight. He is the reason why MS is $4 trillion company today. Because he not only was the guy who built up Azure, but he saw that the future was about Cloud, Content, Community. The underlying OS layers or hardware don't matter if you control the content.

Obviously Phil has a lot of input and vision regarding Xbox ecosystem as well, MS leadership has different strengths. Sarah Bond is the executor, she gets things done. She got the Sega/Azure deal done, gets most of big Gamepass contracts done, got the ABK deal done with the selling cloud rights to Ubisoft.

But overall direction, Nadella is the one for "Xbox Everywhere" strategy.

Microsoft being a 4 trillion dollar company has nothing to do with the Xbox division I can assure you that lol.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

They will definitely be let down by this port to the Xbox and I think it will be worse than Lego horizon on the switch because their is no GP that so many of their user base rely in order to play a game these days lol.

Surely all the publishers that keep on releasing games on Xbox would stop if they weren't selling on Xbox?

Gonna be hard to keep the lols coming, I think.

 

[Topher]

Coming in second and still selling 10s of millions of consoles means there's still 10s of millions more potential customers that could purchase the game and spend money on GaaS.

When they only sell 2.5m copies of Astrobot I can't blame them for wanting to recoup game development costs on other platforms as another revenue stream.

These companies exist to make the most money possible to their shareholders, shareholders or anyone above the age of 20 don't give a shit where games get played as long as everyone enjoys and spends.

Everything is the result of the post-console war era. Sony doesn't see a need to fight for market share. PS sales dominate Xbox and Microsoft couldn't wave a whiter flag than putting those initial four games on PlayStation. This has rippled over to PlayStation and now they both see each other more as opportunities rather than competition. Falls in line with all the other changes from Sony. They have been retooling their studios for Gaas and ports/remasters to other platforms via acquisitions of Nixxes, Bluepoint, Haven, Bungie as well as the now defunct Firewalk. Would either be doing any of this if there was still an ongoing tooth and nail fight like there was with 360 and PS3? Doubt it. For Sony, this is what a fight for higher margins looks like versus a fight for market share. For Xbox, it is the need to bolster revenue overall amidst their $70 billion acquisition. Seriously doubt the changes at Xbox and PlayStation are over.

All that to say: I miss the console war.

 

[Neofire]

Surely all the publishers that keep on releasing games on Xbox would stop if they weren't selling on Xbox?

Gonna be hard to keep the lols coming, I think.

Xbox series S limitations aside are you really going to act like some developers are delaying or even questioning Xbox versions of its games? If so, then you are arguing in bad faith.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Xbox series S limitations aside are you really going to act like some developers are delaying or even questioning Xbox versions of its games? If so, then you are arguing in bad faith.

I'm afraid I'm dead serious and it is you that is arguing in bad faith.

 

[Tobimacoss]

Microsoft being a 4 trillion dollar company has nothing to do with the Xbox division I can assure you that lol.

You misunderstood. I was referring to Nadella investing and focusing on Azure that made it a $4 trillion company. Now that same Azure is helping expand Xbox reach to every screen with a browser.

 

[Neofire]

I'm afraid I'm dead serious.....

That is precisely the the issue and I will just leave this conversation here lol. Use Google and get some help buddy.

 

[TrueGrime]

Microsoft being a 4 trillion dollar company has nothing to do with the Xbox division I can assure you that lol.

It does when you want to buy Mojang, Zenimax, and Activision.

 

[Tobimacoss]

Xbox series S limitations aside are you really going to act like some developers are delaying or even questioning Xbox versions of its games? If so, then you are arguing in bad faith.

Your sentence makes no sense. Did you mean to say "some developers aren't delaying"?

 

[Topher]

You misunderstood. I was referring to Nadella investing and focusing on Azure that made it a $4 trillion company. Now that same Azure is helping expand Xbox reach to every screen with a browser.

None of which has anything to do with the thread

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Surely all the publishers that keep on releasing games on Xbox would stop if they weren't selling on Xbox?

Gonna be hard to keep the lols coming, I think.

Xbox pays publishers money upfront to put games on GP though, so they automatically got a large chunl of revenue covered.

The other guy has a point.

 

[Dragon_Rocks]

So now I have to deal with squids, bugs and green rats in my games?

 

[Tobimacoss]

Xbox pays publishers money upfront to put games on GP though, so they automatically got a large chunl of revenue covered.

The other guy has a point.

Neither EA nor Rockstar are getting Gamepass money for Battlefield 6 or GTA6.

That goes for 98% of all third party AAA games on Xbox. Those aren't Day One or even Day 1000 games. Cyberpunk 2077 still hasn't shown up on Gamepass even though it should.

 

[TrueGrime]

So now I have to deal with squids, bugs and green rats in my games?

Green rats and Blue balls all under one roof in a Sony published game. What a time to be alive, eh?

 

[Tobimacoss]

None of which has anything to do with the thread

Someone joking gave credit to Phil Spencer for the events that have occurred regarding Sony porting to Xbox and putting the HellDivers 2 Xbox link on PlayStation.com. I was giving proper credit to Nadella instead. He was the one who put the wheels in motion long ago by basically seeing the future.

Everyone complaining about Sony executives being shortsighted due to increasing profit margins or GAAS investments are missing one crucial factor, the rise of Cloud Gaming.

Once Cloud Gaming reaches 4k/120 with less than 25 MS latency, being locked to specific hardware becomes irrelevant. It's already there for Nvidia GFN, and almost there for xCloud, Magnus and Direct to Cloud controller will help it achieve that.

Sony executives can see the same thing, but since certain userbase with hardware prefers native, they are targeting those users now. However, Sony should expand their cloud streaming or they will get left behind.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Your sentence makes no sense. Did you mean to say "some developers aren't delaying"?

I don't think he knows what he's saying.

 

[Topher]

Someone joking gave credit to Phil Spencer for the events that have occurred regarding Sony porting to Xbox and putting the HellDivers 2 Xbox link on PlayStation.com. I was giving proper credit to Nadella instead. He was the one who put the wheels in motion long ago by basically seeing the future.

Everyone complaining about Sony executives being shortsighted due to increasing profit margins or GAAS investments are missing one crucial factor, the rise of Cloud Gaming.

Once Cloud Gaming reaches 4k/120 with less than 25 MS latency, being locked to specific hardware becomes irrelevant. It's already there for Nvidia GFN, and almost there for xCloud, Magnus and Direct to Cloud controller will help it achieve that.

Sony executives can see the same thing, but since certain userbase with hardware prefers native, they are targeting those users now. However, Sony should expand their cloud streaming or they will get left behind.

 

[Tobimacoss]

Microsoft "Investing Aggressively" in Gaming Content, Community, and Cloud Services

Microsoft is investing heavily across all areas of gaming, and shares the outlook for the current quarter, expecting revenue growth in the mid-teens.

www.dualshockers.com

July 2018.

Content, Community, Cloud, that's what it's all about.

Sony has the content part (HellDivers 2), now they're trying to expand the community to Xbox, hopefully they allow it on xCloud Buy and Stream at launch.

Sony should add the game to PS+ Premium and Gamepass Ultimate as well, after 6 months maybe.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Neither EA nor Rockstar are getting Gamepass money for Battlefield 6 or GTA6.

That goes for 98% of all third party AAA games on Xbox. Those aren't Day One or even Day 1000 games. Cyberpunk 2077 still hasn't shown up on Gamepass even though it should.

Sure, but Helldivers isn't Battlefield or GTA.

 

[Tobimacoss]

Sure, but Helldivers isn't Battlefield or GTA.

Are you implying Xbox paid Sony money for the HellDivers port? Well, it isn't launching on Gamepass.

It's more likely Spencer took Totoki out to dinner and Saki, and they both agreed to trade HellDivers and Gears Reloaded. /j

Anyways, there's a Halo ODST cross over with HellDivers 2. The game should do at least 1-2 million copies on Xbox.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Are you implying Xbox paid Sony money for the HellDivers port? Well, it isn't launching on Gamepass.

Not at all. The argument was that HD might sell poorly because the Xbox fanbase has been conditioned to wait for games to release on GP.

It's more likely Spencer took Totoki out to dinner and Saki, and they both agreed to trade HellDivers and Gears Reloaded. /j

Anyways, there's a Halo ODST cross over with HellDivers 2. The game should do at least 1-2 million copies on Xbox.

Tbh, I think the HD2 Xbox release is a matter of "throw a dog a bone".

It comes across as rather insulting, if you ask me.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Not at all. The argument was that HD might sell poorly because the Xbox fanbase has been conditioned to wait for games to release on GP.

Tbh, I think the HD2 Xbox release is a matter of "throw a dog a bone".

It comes across as rather insulting, if you ask me.

Same can be said for Gears Reloaded for PS5. A remake of a 20 year old game. Talk about throwing a bone. There was already Gears 1 on 360, then Gears Ultimate Edition. Now Gears Reloaded in 2025.

Xbox is getting H2. Sony's best selling game in years.

 

[Tobimacoss]

Nobody is throwing bones. It's about making money while expanding the community. It's a Win-Win for both.

 

[drganon]

Someone joking gave credit to Phil Spencer for the events that have occurred regarding Sony porting to Xbox and putting the HellDivers 2 Xbox link on PlayStation.com. I was giving proper credit to Nadella instead. He was the one who put the wheels in motion long ago by basically seeing the future.

Everyone complaining about Sony executives being shortsighted due to increasing profit margins or GAAS investments are missing one crucial factor, the rise of Cloud Gaming.

Once Cloud Gaming reaches 4k/120 with less than 25 MS latency, being locked to specific hardware becomes irrelevant. It's already there for Nvidia GFN, and almost there for xCloud, Magnus and Direct to Cloud controller will help it achieve that.

Sony executives can see the same thing, but since certain userbase with hardware prefers native, they are targeting those users now. However, Sony should expand their cloud streaming or they will get left behind.

Microsoft "Investing Aggressively" in Gaming Content, Community, and Cloud Services

Microsoft is investing heavily across all areas of gaming, and shares the outlook for the current quarter, expecting revenue growth in the mid-teens.

www.dualshockers.com

July 2018.

Content, Community, Cloud, that's what it's all about.

Sony has the content part (HellDivers 2), now they're trying to expand the community to Xbox, hopefully they allow it on xCloud Buy and Stream at launch.

Sony should add the game to PS+ Premium and Gamepass Ultimate as well, after 6 months maybe.

Are you implying Xbox paid Sony money for the HellDivers port? Well, it isn't launching on Gamepass.

It's more likely Spencer took Totoki out to dinner and Saki, and they both agreed to trade HellDivers and Gears Reloaded. /j

Anyways, there's a Halo ODST cross over with HellDivers 2. The game should do at least 1-2 million copies on Xbox.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Same can be said for Gears Reloaded for PS5. A remake of a 20 year old game. Talk about throwing a bone. There was already Gears 1 on 360, then Gears Ultimate Edition. Now Gears Reloaded in 2025.

Xbox is getting H2. Sony's best selling game in years.

Apples to oranges.

Xbox has little choice.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Apples to oranges.

Xbox has little choice.

Same goes for Sony.

Gaming is their biggest division and its margins have tanked since 2022. They got no choice but to sell more games on other platforms to boost up the profit metrics, since the overall company financials depend the most on gaming.

The new CEO even said his focus in on higher margins when he took over. And then means more multiplat ports.

 

[MonkD]

Not going to bother with the console warrior stuff. But the export port is something that has been requested by the PS5 and PC community. We want more players in order to keep the game alive and supported for longer. This is a win for everybody. Doubt a lot of people bought a PS5 for this game, so having it exclusive is pretty useless. But I'm basing that on the fact that the controller didn't sell out the same way other themed one did.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Same goes for Sony.

Gaming is their biggest division and its margins have tanked since 2022. They got no choice but to sell more games on other platforms to boost up the profit metrics, since the overall company financials depend the most on gaming.

The new CEO even said his focus in on higher margins when he took over. And then means more multiplat ports.

You really think Sony needs HD2 Xbox sales?

Anyway, I was just saying why publishers might release their games on Xbox if sales for their games might be low on their platform.

Has little to do with PS vs Xbox.

 

[ResilientBanana]

You really think Sony needs HD2 Xbox sales?

Anyway, I was just saying why publishers might release their games on Xbox if sales for their games might be low on their platform.

Has little to do with PS vs Xbox.

Yes, otherwise it wouldn't be on the platform. Every little bit matters when it comes to sales.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yes, otherwise it wouldn't be on the platform. Every little bit matters when it comes to sales.

My guess it's just a gesture of goodwill, if anything.

Xbox sales are laughable.

Anyway, again, my initial reply had nothing to do with PS.

 

[Tobimacoss]

You really think Sony needs HD2 Xbox sales?

Anyway, I was just saying why publishers might release their games on Xbox if sales for their games might be low on their platform.

Has little to do with PS vs Xbox.

But your logic makes no sense as 98% of third party AAA games on Xbox aren't added to Gamepass for at least 2-3+ years.

EA Play games get added 9-12 months later but that's due to EA Play.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

But your logic makes no sense as 98% of third party AAA games on Xbox aren't added to Gamepass for at least 2-3+ years.

EA Play games get added 9-12 months later but that's due to EA Play.

There's always certain major franchises/IPs that will always sell.

It'll probably also make Xbox bleed crazy money to get those titles on GP anyway.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

This thread is cringe central. I haven't been looking at games discussion on here for a while, I can't believe the knots you warriors tie yourselves into to keep a narrative going.