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[olimario]

I haven't watched but the start of the movie, where Nameless fights Snow or Sky or whatever his name is, but the movie is such a cheesy, poorly done Crouching Tiger in my eyes.

The acting is bland, the slow motion scenes of water dropping and feet stepping in water have the hoaky made-for-tv feel, and the fights and wire work aren't anywhere near as impressive as the ones in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. On top of that, everything is so cheesy. The black and white flash back, the slow motion aspects, and the guy playing music for their fight... It's so psuedo-dramatic. And even though I haven't watched but the opening, the story doesn't seem as engaging.

I went into Crouching Tiger with an open mind, was instantly captivated, and I enjoyed the movie from start to finish.
Everything about Hero so far is a huge step backwards and the movie became so painful to watch that I couldn't anymore.

Is there a reason I should keep watching or does this keep up throughout?

 

[demon]

I thought the plot was intriguing and well told if a bit cliched, the cinematography and scenery extraordinary, and some of the fight scenes awesome. I enjoyed it.

 

[Triumph]

*pats Gary on the head*

There there, lil trooper. It's gonna be alright.

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Hee hee!

 

[Jak140]

The movie is really about the visuals, the plot is just okay. However, if you find this movie to be slow moving, I have to assume you have the attention span of a ten year old with ADD.

 

[olimario]

I thought the plot was intriguing and well told if a bit cliched, the cinematography and scenery extraordinary, and some of the fight scenes awesome. I enjoyed it.

Cinematography was cheesy as best. There's nothing dramatic about slow motion shots of water falling. There's nothing impressive about a foresight clip being done in all black and white.

It rips off and ruins so many elements of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Such a shame, I say.

 

[demon]

yeah, the visuals really make this movie. It truly is beautiful at times. I liked the color themes of the different scenes.

 

[levious]

Is there a reason I should keep watching or does this keep up throughout?

eh, I misunderstood what you said

- but anyway, it's slow, but the fight choreography is much better than in Crouching Tiger...

But there's no equivilent to the romantic relationship from CTHD.

 

[olimario]

yeah, the visuals really make this movie. It truly is beautiful at times. I liked the color themes of the different scenes.

I can understand some of the visuals being great. I've seen in trailers a couple truly breathtaking scenes, but I can't imagine just that saving the movie. I would almost prefer to view this movie in 10 second clips of the prettiest scenes if the beauty of some of the scenery is the only redeeming quality.

Certainly not, if you couldn't even understand that the black and white scene was not a flashback.

I didn't mean flashback, I meant foresight. Wires crossed in my head.

 

[sonatinas]

The plot is more for Chinese tastes. On the other hand if u want to watch the best Zhang Yimoe movie watch "to live".

 

[demon]

Now I saw the movie three months ago, but I thought the black and white fight scene (the first fight scene, correct?) was a flashback when Jet Li was talking to the emperor?

 

[levious]

I was thinking from the context of the actual scene within the scene... sorry for adding confusion.

But yeah, watch the whole thing man... there's probably one more scene that you won't like though.

 

[olimario]

Now I saw the movie three months ago, but I thought the black and white fight scene (the first fight scene, correct?) was a flashback when Jet Li was talking to the emperor?

The scene of Nameless confronting Sky (or Snow) was a flashback. In that flashback Nameless forsees the fight and that clip is in Black and White.

 

[karasu]

Cinematography was cheesy as best. There's nothing dramatic about slow motion shots of water falling. There's nothing impressive about a foresight clip being done in all black and white.

It rips off and ruins so many elements of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Such a shame, I say.

Are you kidding me? It didn't rip off anything from Crouching Tiger. These are genre conventions. Zhang Yimou and Chris Doyle are about as credible as they come.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

I loved this movie.

 

[olimario]

The fight scene that I saw between Sky's minions and Nameless and between Sky and Nameless weren't impressive at all and were ruined by hoaky special effects, useless cheesy scenes of random things, and tacky slow motion elements.

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon had more polished fighting styles and choreography and the speed and use of shots made them generally more entertaining.

 

[enjoy bell woods]

Why don't you watch the entire movie before commenting? Jesus Christ I hate people like you.

 

[olimario]

Why don't you watch the entire movie before commenting? Jesus Christ I hate people like you.

Because nothing I've seen of the movie so far is good. In fact, it's so cheesy and boring that I couldn't continue.
If the movie picks ups and the fights get less cheesy, I'm willing to go back and finish.

Would you continue playing a video game if the combat was bad, the visuals were lacking, and the story was cheesy?

 

[levious]

well this is certainly the most maintstream martial arts movie thread we've had... Thanks Tarentino.

And that black and white bit wasn't forseeing anything either... "we fought the battle in our minds"

You did have the subtitles on right?

 

[enjoy bell woods]

How much of it have you watched?

 

[olimario]

How much of it have you watched?

I've watched to the end of the fight with Sky.
Almost everything about it is cheesy so far.

The cinematography would be fine if they would leave out all of the tacky and useless slow motion clips.

 

[karasu]

.
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon had more polished fighting styles and choreography and the speed and use of shots made them generally more entertaining.

Whoa. The cast of CTHD weren't even real martial artist. You're watching Jet Li and Donnie Yen! @_@

 

[Jim Bowie]

All movies out of China are compared to Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, primarily because that's the only one people ever see. Sit down and watch the movie, enjoy pretty visuals, because obviously that's all you got out of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. When you want to talk about content and symbolism, which is what the whole movie is, come back and we'll talk.

 

[olimario]

well this is certainly the most maintstream martial arts movie thread we've had... Thanks Tarentino.

And that black and white bit wasn't forseeing anything either... "we fought the battle in our minds"

You did have the subtitles on right?

Forsight of the battle. That's pretty much what it was.
I don't know what other terminology I would use. It was like a forsight that didn't come true.

 

[Socreges]

Hero > Hero

 

[levious]

no that's not what it was either... man, you're such a literalist I guess.

But yeah, you'd have to know the main plot twist to appreciate your complaints in a different light.

 

[olimario]

All movies out of China are compared to Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, primarily because that's the only one people ever see. Sit down and watch the movie, enjoy pretty visuals, because obviously that's all you got out of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. When you want to talk about content and symbolism, which is what the whole movie is, come back and we'll talk.

That's not all I got out of Crouching Tiger. In fact, I love Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon for the multilayered love story and the great presentation of deep characters. The actors were superb and played their well-written parts wonderfully.
Truly a Masterpiece.

I fail to see any of this in Hero so far and I find the acting bland at best. The "symbolism" of which you speak seems forced and pseudo-intellectual. OMG! RAIN DROPPING SLOWLY ONTO SWORDS!

 

[karasu]

that wasn't symbolism, it was a pretty image.

 

[XMonkey]

It's only an hour and a half long. Quit wasting your time posting about how cheesy it is and go watch the damn thing.

Once you've seen it all come, come back and post your impressions because basing your opinion of the movie on the first fight scene isn't the best of ideas.

 

[olimario]

It's only an hour and a half long. Quit wasting your time posting about how cheesy it is and go watch the damn thing.

Once you've seen it all come, come back and post your impressions because basing your opinion of the movie on the first fight scene isn't the best of ideas.

But I have complaints about not the sum of the parts, but the individuals parts of the movie. If those parts don't improve I don't see the movie being any better than it is at this point.

I will go watch the rest to please GAF, though.

 

[Maxwell House]

I thought Hero was horrible. It is beyond cheesy.

 

[levious]

this is revenge for no one giving Kirby Air Ride a chance.

 

[Jim Bowie]

That's not all I got out of Crouching Tiger. In fact, I love Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon for the multilayered love story and the great presentation of deep characters. The actors were superb and played their well-written parts wonderfully.
Truly a Masterpiece.

I fail to see any of this in Hero so far and I find the acting bland at best. The "symbolism" of which you speak seems forced and pseudo-intellectual. OMG! RAIN DROPPING SLOWLY ONTO SWORDS!

Now, would you think the exact same thing about CTHD from watching the first fight scene? I didn't think so. Get into the movie a bit, explore the color presentations, explore the even moreso complex love triangle, and see the raw emotion of the

Spoiler

Yue/Li fight over the lake

and tell me that it's not very good.

 

[Tabris]

While I loved the movie.

One part had me laughing when I shouldn't be. When

Spoiler

The Nameless hits the water and freaks out.

I don't know why, but his expression was very comical to me. Shouldn't have been though.

 

[Maxwell House]

I didn't feel any emotions at all within Hero. It was way too cheesy for that. The plot was ridiculous. The storylines were absurd. The relationships were flat and unbelievable. Did you really identify with the characters or believe that they actually felt the emotions the movie wanted you to think they felt? I didn't. It was too cheesy to have that kind of affect IMO.

I was actually laughing during the scene where they are fighting on the lake. It was so damn dumb..all the screaming and yelping over an absurd and impossible to identify with love story.

 

[way more]

Boo.

A carnal treat for the eyes. Spectacular color and razor-precise choreography combine for a flim that wears out your rods and cones . Admittedly the movie is a bit ethnocentric in regards to China and it gets bluntly nationalistic but I enjoyed the unique perspective.

 

[Pfucata]

House of Flying Daggers is a lot better than Hero.

 

[bionic77]

I think we have a better idea on why you couldn't graduate from high school.

 

[olimario]

I think we have a better idea on why you couldn't graduate from high school.

Because I can't appreciate a cheesy movie that tries way too hard to be serious?

 

[bionic77]

Because I can't appreciate a cheesy movie that tries way too hard to be serious?

Because you didn't have the attention span to finish a 90 minute movie before you come online and make a thread trashing it.

You remind me of someone who was on my high school tennis team. He was also too stupid to graduate from high school (though he was a great tennis player). And he, like you, seemed to revel in his own stupidity.

 

[DMczaf]

Because you didn't have the attention span to finish a 90 minute movie before you come online and make a thread trashing it.

You remind me of someone who was on my high school tennis team. He was also too stupid to graduate from high school (though he was a great tennis player). And he, like you, seemed to revel in his own stupidity.

Even Kwame Brown could graduate from high school!

...supposedly.

 

[bionic77]

Even Kwame Brown could graduate from high school!

...supposedly.

:lol

 

[jenov4]

I agree with Oli on this one. This movie is no CTHD. Beautiful visuals but I didn't feel for the characters.

I want to see House of Flying Daggers though. Love that Zhang Ziyi!

 

[belgurdo]

Because you didn't have the attention span to finish a 90 minute movie before you come online and make a thread trashing it.

You remind me of someone who was on my high school tennis team. He was also too stupid to graduate from high school (though he was a great tennis player). And he, like you, seemed to revel in his own stupidity.

HAY GUYS HE DIDN'T LIKE A BANAL GENERIC CHINESE ART FILM LET'S QUESTION HIS INTELLIGENCE AND MOCKINGLY USE PERSONAL INFORMATION AS AMMUNITION AGAINST HIM AS MY E-PENIS SWELLS IN DELIGHT

 

[mattx5]

Give it 60 hours.....

 

[olimario]

Why should I continue with the film if the poor individual parts of the film aren't going to improve? And why are you under the delusion that attention span = intelligence? Why are you under the delusion that if you can't finish High School you aren't intelligent?

 

[way more]

An American didn't like a foreign film!
Nah, Just kidding man, you're allright.


But quit calling it cheesy, cheesy is Jerry Bruckheimer or Disney, or someother predictable American crap.

 

[AstroLad]

this is revenge for no one giving Kirby Air Ride a chance.

:lol :lol

 

[bionic77]

Why should I continue with the film if the poor individual parts of the film aren't going to improve? And why are you under the delusion that attention span = intelligence? Why are you under the delusion that if you can't finish High School you aren't intelligent?

I am sorry, if you can't finish high school you probably aren't that intelligent. There are exceptions to every rule but this is a pretty safe generalization.

 

[firex]

Why are you under the delusion that if you can't finish High School you aren't intelligent?

Because a coked-up baboon could graduate high school.

 

[belgurdo]

I am sorry, if you can't finish high school you probably aren't that intelligent. There are exceptions to every rule but this is a pretty safe generalization.

Maybe you should have my tag.