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Heroes of Newerth |OT| Free-To-Play [PC /Mac /Linux]
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That said, IH are probably where I've learned the most. Sometimes they go easy with me, sometimes not, but at least I can ask how I died or what did I do wrong.
I'm going to leave this game for a bit, might still play it sometimes but not as often as before. The amount of smurfs accounts discourages me to play it alone, and playing with gaffers is proving not to be easy thanks to the different timezones. I'll still try to play some nights (afternoon for you) since that's when there are most gaffers online.
I'm going to leave this game for a bit, might still play it sometimes but not as often as before. The amount of smurfs accounts discourages me to play it alone, and playing with gaffers is proving not to be easy thanks to the different timezones. I'll still try to play some nights (afternoon for you) since that's when there are most gaffers online.
The problem with Dota for most players is the importance of teamwork. Being with your teammates is very crucial, thats not hard to do. Knowing what spell and when to use, that is what makes it hard. And I think that what causes most new players to just play by themselves.
But when you get past that barrier and learn how fun it is to synergy your spells with your friends, knowing when to use your stun and whatnot, thats what makes Dota, Dota.
But when you get past that barrier and learn how fun it is to synergy your spells with your friends, knowing when to use your stun and whatnot, thats what makes Dota, Dota.
Chinese Electric Batman
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azuki said:
Lmfao.
Chinese Electric Batman
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MM down again.
Lone_Prodigy
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Dahbomb said:
Rush Mock on Bear.
Napalm_Frank
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I just died a little inside :<.
Steam boots are nearly always better on a carry because they offer a significant AS increase (25) as well as swappable stats. Attack speed continues to pay off dividends throughout the game; it's a scaling DPS increase. Ghost marchers offer straight damage which won't scale as well on a straight carry. The movespeed is better, certainly, but that's really only good if you're playing a mobile ganker hero or have an orb that it's critical to keep up.
Movespeed is also increased by firebrand containing items, though, so it's not like ghostmarchers are the only place you can pick up bonus speed.
Movespeed is also increased by firebrand containing items, though, so it's not like ghostmarchers are the only place you can pick up bonus speed.
On Valk and CD who already have ways to increase their MS... I don't know man. Those characters get insane MS with Firebrand/Frostburn/Geometer anyway plus can escape from most situations. Plus the +10 strength on CD is a must since he needs to tank a little bit in team fights. Sometimes the clutch swap to intel for Valk saves her in high adrenaline moments (when you just need the mana for a jump or stun or even ulti). I say same for Madman, he really has almost no use from Ghost Marchers.Anbokr said:
Lone_Prodigy
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Everything that's wrong with HoN in one 80 minute game.
-Instant-pick of Warden and BH, orange insists on picking Flint. No tanks.
-BH gets immortal but keeps putting his silence on teammates and denying them. Also hogs all the wards.
-Warden does squat all game, running around placing his Overgrowth. His most useful moment came at the end when their Magebane tried to backdoor our Shrine and I needed help to kill him.
-Flint stands outside Kongor's lair and downhill to attack.
-Took forever for us to rax, and with two rax down my teammates insisted on pushing instead of going for Megas.
-General raging and insults throughout the game.
If I wasn't desperate to get back over 1200 MMR I would've eaten the leave.
-Instant-pick of Warden and BH, orange insists on picking Flint. No tanks.
-BH gets immortal but keeps putting his silence on teammates and denying them. Also hogs all the wards.
-Warden does squat all game, running around placing his Overgrowth. His most useful moment came at the end when their Magebane tried to backdoor our Shrine and I needed help to kill him.
-Flint stands outside Kongor's lair and downhill to attack.
-Took forever for us to rax, and with two rax down my teammates insisted on pushing instead of going for Megas.
-General raging and insults throughout the game.
If I wasn't desperate to get back over 1200 MMR I would've eaten the leave.
PillowKnight
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I firmly believe phase boots>>> steamboots for carries.
For a few reasons:
-On most carries it's not really a matter of being able to tank shit and more of a matter of avoiding all that cc.
-It's really hard to put out dps if people can just outrun you, the movement speed helps against that.
-Phase boots help a lot with last hitting in the laning phase, and once you finish steamboots the +dmg that early is huge.
-Unit walking; the creep walking/hero walking jukes, and of course not being creep/hero blocked yourself.
For a few reasons:
-On most carries it's not really a matter of being able to tank shit and more of a matter of avoiding all that cc.
-It's really hard to put out dps if people can just outrun you, the movement speed helps against that.
-Phase boots help a lot with last hitting in the laning phase, and once you finish steamboots the +dmg that early is huge.
-Unit walking; the creep walking/hero walking jukes, and of course not being creep/hero blocked yourself.
-whether or not your purpose is to tank, people are going to be trying to gank you. the +hp helps from that (though so does the +ms on phase, so i dont really see this being one way or the other)PillowKnight said:
-most carries have a way to keep people slowed or disabled (cept like, cd) but sure bro ill just grab my striders on magebane
-steamboots can also give damage, and really the last hitting isnt going to come down to phase v steam at that point, its going to be who has more lane presence / control, not who has more static +dmg. You could have a doombringer for all i care but youre still going to get shit on by something like hammer/pyro
-getting yourself blocked doesnt happen much, and just having some foresight helps with it
I used to get phase boots a lot, but once i learned how to switch the stats on steamboots, it became a much more versatile item for me. And the +AS is way more significant lategame than any benefits from phase boots
PillowKnight
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bzm said:
Kapura: I'm not an expert on this, but I don't think 1v1 mid ever gets to the point of steamboots.
I was actually thinking of trying to set up a 1v1 mid league, cause i'm so bad at mid and I want to improve. I wanna wait till puber returns to hon before I try anything though.
tbh when i get back to a real computer I would love to see a 1v1 league, a la gafhosue league. Get somebody to spec it, ban pulling mid or going to other lanes, play a banning pick with multiple heroes (so both could potentially pick the same hero) and let it happen. Could b fun
PuppetYuber
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You can get phase boot over steam boot with hero that you can easily animation cancel. The only exception I can think of is Soulstealer and Slither, but thats because people prefer overall stats.
eg: Valkyrie, Forsaken Archer, Flint Beastwood.
eg: Valkyrie, Forsaken Archer, Flint Beastwood.
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azuki said:
God damn wives.
Chinese Electric Batman
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azuki said:
Procarbine
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Can you not post pics of anime girls puking in our hon thread please.
Procarbine
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Shout outs to Moody.
Shout outs to Moody.