I feel like double jump should be pretty good, i kinda rationalize shingan in that it is a great spike and higher dmg on genji would help make enemies prioritize him more and i feel like genji needs to be offtankish and in the shit to be successful, otherwise you are just weakly poking and finishing
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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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Didn't you get matched up with pro players this morning ? You should have warmed up before going back to hero league since you played Dibbles for a while.
No raging. Bragging and boasting and possibly teasing you EU guys maybe.
Sucks you guys are screwed for this. I thought for sure at least this update would be universal.
I play him passive lyfe all the way. That's not true, but I rarely dive into an actual team fight until there's a hero I can finish or a setup is put down for my ultimate. I don't know how you could reliably play him as an offtank. Your W only lasts 1.5 secs and it has a pretty long cooldown. You'd have to use your other skills to dodge instead to engage and finish. I don't see that as a valuable use of the hero or his intention really on a regular basis. You can draw the aggro, but it will negate your ability to finish, and if you don't have heals your just kind of out of it because that deflect is so paltry.
I think he's meant to be a poke/harass hero like Tracer or Zera who functions a bit more like Valeera in that he can't really 100-0 someone on his own reliably, but paired with other damage he ensures no heroes ever escape or survive the engage. I find his poke damage to be alright, actually. It's not great but if you do as you suggest and play a little forward to draw aggression you can get some good damage in with your AA added in to the Q spam.
Playing him that way racked me and my team up a ridiculous amount of kills. Like I was saying the other day, I average like 4.0-5.0 KDA as a player on most heroes. Milly averages like a full kill and a half more than me per death. On Genji last I looked my KDA was 13.51 in ~30 games playing from outside and then finishing my own kills or others.
can you US cats do us EU peeps a solid tomorow, and after you log in and get your gems / mega bundles and whatnot, can you log in to the EU server from the launcher (not on a different account, same account) and see if you also get seperate gems to buy a seperate bundle on there?
How can you draw CDs with only a 1.5s deflect though? You E in to offtank, W, soak some damage maybe or they hold their CDs, you eat a stun and then only have D to get out? Or reverse D and E. I just don't see how you can bait much without getting immediately ate up if you're in there.
I mean, I'm not saying you don't wanna bait cooldowns if you can. Of course you do if you're able. I'm just saying offtank implies an ability to stay in the shit, and he certainly cannot do that without getting resets.
Doubt it'd be live in the EU zone. And does it really matter much? Just make a new account if not. Takes like a minute.
I mean, I'm not saying you don't wanna bait cooldowns if you can. Of course you do if you're able. I'm just saying offtank implies an ability to stay in the shit, and he certainly cannot do that without getting resets.
Doubt it'd be live in the EU zone. And does it really matter much? Just make a new account if not. Takes like a minute.
Least you can get back into Diamond easier from there than it was in S2.
Do we think he's OP? I'm expecting him to have a fairly low win rate on release.
Oh maybe im using offtank incorrectly then, all i mean is drawing cds by being in their face and dodging and w'ing it and doing this actively and on purpose; stuff that lets your team go in for free like arthas w or tracer blinks. He def shouldnt tank hits or anything. The way its been going for me is that ill agile dismount in, do my thing, and either d out or e if it's super hairy. It's like the illidan comparison (who i kinda label "offtank" in my head too)
I said it before, but wouldn't be surprised if he's 40% winrate and wouldn't be surprised if he's 60%. It's that bipolar on PTR.
I have dominated with him. Had a few teammates do well as well. 70% of the ones I faced fed like crazy. They got a lot of kills and decent damage but it was feed city. At the end of the game they'd have relatively similar stats to me in kbs and damage, but I'd have way more assists and 0-2 deaths. Another 20% were about average and did decent all around. The final 10% were putting up similar or better numbers than me damage wise and KDA wise.
When I play him or some of our friends have played him he feels insane. Then I see my team just ragdolling my opponent. Insert shrug ascii emoji. Hard to tell how much of the domination was PTR matchmaking and how much is him being legit.
Oh I gotcha. Yeah I think we're on the same page then. Your skill level probably makes that a bit easier for you too. I am probably a tad more passive because my reactions just aren't quite as good.
Either way, based on PTR I've never had more fun with a hero. He's kind of the fun I hoped I'd have with Lucio. Obviously they are very different heroes, but I thought I'd main Lucio and it didn't really click. Genji clicks with me for whatever reason. Even when we got stomped I still was able to have good games and get kills.
im an idiot, of course it wouldnt be live tomorow duh. And yes it does matter, I dont want to have a seperate account, im lazy, I've been logged in to battlenet for years.
The Ptr matchmaking was so bad it's hard to judge. I played games as Varian where I was a literally unkillable god, soloing players who clearly should never have been placed in a match against me.
(That's not boasting, I'm not exactly great, but we're talking tracers running into varian and probius split pushing. Very clearly much lower level players).
I do think the new map is going to be a cluster fuck though.
(That's not boasting, I'm not exactly great, but we're talking tracers running into varian and probius split pushing. Very clearly much lower level players).
I do think the new map is going to be a cluster fuck though.
I honestly think he's a bit more like nova then anything else. Showing up out of no where to kill people who thought they were safe.
Even though I've seen him do really well on ptr I'm still really not convinced.
He has such bad pve that I just really can't see him doing much better then a nova.
Like I think he just won't be good on any map other then hanamura.
Or even if he is decent in some places there's 8-9 heroes that would be better picks.
Even though I've seen him do really well on ptr I'm still really not convinced.
He has such bad pve that I just really can't see him doing much better then a nova.
Like I think he just won't be good on any map other then hanamura.
Or even if he is decent in some places there's 8-9 heroes that would be better picks.
Didn't you detail earlier why he'd be good on Tomb? Naturally he'd need good waveclear around him for that, but he could be a real terror to anyone who steps too far in lane.
I think he can be good for BOE too due to the mid clashes. Tomb as well possibly because of his ability to contest.
The real underrated hero on Hanamura is Nova (or anyone else with bribe). Bribe is OP on that map.
I think he can be good for BOE too due to the mid clashes. Tomb as well possibly because of his ability to contest.
The real underrated hero on Hanamura is Nova (or anyone else with bribe). Bribe is OP on that map.
He's really good against backline too, he wins the trade when he dives usually and if they flip out he'll usually get their mobility spell too, tho i suppose at some point ppl will just muscle memory the gimmicky stuff and play more cool-headed. But he's pretty zaryaish to me, fairly reliant on their team to get the important things done
scoobs
Member
Fucking nobody is playing the brawl anymore would be my guess lol
WonderRade
Member
where is the best place to get a summary of the reddit q&a
Yeah, the response says pretty much the same thing.
I just find the question funny, because it implies the person is blaming Blizzard for their deaths because they're using it at bad times.
Did you try to Genji or is it just down? Genji queues have been everywhere from instant to 10-15 mins for me, sometimes back-to-back. Ketch and I had instant, 10 mins, then like 3 mins the other day.
I'll be fucking glad when this is live. The PTR matchmaking and queue times are not something I'll miss.
scoobs
Member
Its not all about winning, its about getting better. Stay strong young padawan.
This is good news, my whole time playing hots i was wishing for a watchable streamer
young padawan? dude im like obi wan. I used to be ok at what I do but clearly not the best.
now im old and I havent used a light saber in 150 years. You know what happened to Obi Wan? He got wrecked by Vader thats what!
:3
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Uh, Chu?
Good old Blackheart's Bay, where it doesn't matter what I'm doing - it's the wrong thing. I stay back to clear out the mercs going ape on our buildings with the other support. Clearly I should have gone with my teammates who wanted to throw themselves at a 5-man while fighting over nothing.
Not a fan
Banned
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Okay, so I've been out of the loop with HotS for the past month or two as I took a bit of a break from the game once my stimpack wore off. I just now learned about 2.0 and all of the changes coming with it...
Holy Shit.
Well done Blizzard, 2.0 looks and sounds pretty fantastic. And WTF, it comes out tomorrow???!?!!!?? O_O
Holy Shit.
Well done Blizzard, 2.0 looks and sounds pretty fantastic. And WTF, it comes out tomorrow???!?!!!?? O_O
fluffydelusions
Member
No discord for hots gaf?