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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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Alpha Centauri
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Is 'Dece' a thing? Dunktrain said it on Scarra's stream, and now its infecting everything. I was in a match yesterday where I got a triple kill pick-off at the boss. My teammate says: "dece."
Or maybe it's been around for a long time and I'm just the old out of touch man in the scenario.
It's just one of those (annoying) internet slang things people have translated into the real world. Dece for decent, cent for century, etc etc. There's a few more I hear or read every now and then that I'm forgetting.
I heard it for the first time about a year and a half to two years ago on the Cheap Heat podcast. Dunktrain says it a lot, though, and that's probably where I picked it up.
Is there a good site that compiled information over the years of models / voice lines / portraits of heroes we thought were going to be added and then just never were (yet)?
Wasnt there a full Kel'thusad model for example back in the day?
Wasnt there a full Kel'thusad model for example back in the day?
I'm an internet old man who does enough gaming with internet kids to hear this stuff. Dece has been a thing for several years. We often used to say stuff was pdece in wow like, 3-4 years ago. (Pee deece)
There's this page, and if you click the citations you can find the sources. We could use a juicy new leak.
scoobs
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SuperAndroid17
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So are the quests bugged?
on a 6-1 steak that should be 7-0 but somehow we got cocky in a braxis and near the end of the game when deaths last 40secs we stupidly lost a 5man tf and they rushed the core lol, it was so dumb, rest of the game was a blowout. live and learn.
Varian is a beast, especially dps. Tank varian not really my thang tbh, i couldnt fucking kill a murky just now no matter how much i tried, it was hilarious.
Malf is really strong, still very boring. Tracer is still super bae.
edit: also got a loot box with a epic and 2 rares, 2 new skins and a butcher announcer, so that was cool
add 1 more win actually, again with Varian (even got mvp heh), a very nice hanamura comeback where we were down 5-2 at one point but shockingly nobody stressed and started blasting, we just got our act together. This game is so good in moments like this. Wont top this game for now so I should just go to bed on a high note lol.
Twin blade Varian is much better (for me at least) than Taunt, even if I take the parry talents still.
Edit: oh the fuckery is that I couldnt kill Murk as taunt varian? Dude i couldnt he kept running around me and bubbling and shit :/
Varian is a beast, especially dps. Tank varian not really my thang tbh, i couldnt fucking kill a murky just now no matter how much i tried, it was hilarious.
Malf is really strong, still very boring. Tracer is still super bae.
edit: also got a loot box with a epic and 2 rares, 2 new skins and a butcher announcer, so that was cool
add 1 more win actually, again with Varian (even got mvp heh), a very nice hanamura comeback where we were down 5-2 at one point but shockingly nobody stressed and started blasting, we just got our act together. This game is so good in moments like this. Wont top this game for now so I should just go to bed on a high note lol.
Twin blade Varian is much better (for me at least) than Taunt, even if I take the parry talents still.
Edit: oh the fuckery is that I couldnt kill Murk as taunt varian? Dude i couldnt he kept running around me and bubbling and shit :/
on a 6-1 steak that should be 7-0 but somehow we got cocky in a braxis and near the end of the game when deaths last 40secs we stupidly lost a 5man tf and they rushed the core lol, it was so dumb, rest of the game was a blowout. live and learn.
Varian is a beast, especially dps. Tank varian not really my thang tbh, i couldnt fucking kill a murky just now no matter how much i tried, it was hilarious.
Malf is really strong, still very boring. Tracer is still super bae.
edit: also got a loot box with a epic and 2 rares, 2 new skins and a butcher announcer, so that was cool
What is this fuckery?
Edit: YOU'RE A TWIN BLADES VARIAN?
Whatever works for you man.
Edit: YOU'RE A TWIN BLADES VARIAN?
Whatever works for you man.
Thats bad then? :/
I havent tried colossal smash yet but taunt really wasnt doing it for me.
Some specialists like Sylvanas shouldn't be alone in a lane. She's more of an enabler than a solo laner. There's always a "it depends" in moba land.
That's one of the most common mistakes I see. People let Sylv solo lane because of her wave clear when it's an absolute waste of her trait.
There is literally one one valid competetive Varian build (with the exception of the 13 talent which can vary). They recently buffed Colossus Smash and Twin Blades as well as Warbringer at 4 to change that and it didn't really change anything. Now if you're playing qm you can obviously make the other builds work as well and taunt Varian might not be as effective if you really can't get any follow up. That being said, if the enemy team doesn't have a real tank then taunt is kind of a no brainer because you can soak damage like crazy and negate a lot of burst that will be coming your was if you initiate a fight. If you have literally ANY kind of follow up damage to taunt it is better at deleting people than Colossus Smash and you yourself deal quite a bit of damage as well due to the resetting of your heroic strike. Had a Haunted Mines game recently with a Jaina and Chromie on my team and it was hilarious because whenever I would charge and taunt an enemy player they would die so quickly you could barely see hte health bar deplete. I personally love seeing Varian players on the other team that don't take taunt because it usually means that you can just roll over them.
Yeah I was about to post that it's so hilarious. Might want to tag that as spoilers though ...
In other sad news, it has been confirmed that even if it was shown in the trailer you will not be able to ride d.va's mech as an ally.
been doing a ton of quick play matches with a friend to amass loot boxes, focusing on just getting as many levels as I can and trying every hero. I have no interest in being anything but ultra casual at this game and I mostly have no idea when I'm supposed to be taking creep camps or bosses or whatever. My friend has played a ton of MOBAs and has an innate sense for that stuff, whereas I'm good at the things I actually find fun about the genre like micro and teamfights. So I just follow his directions and we generally do well. I keep telling him we need to play Cho'Gall, lol.
I do find it funny that when someone starts raging and barking orders in chat it's always the guy with 11 deaths that doesn't show up for objectives. But that's this genre I guess. It's easy to mute thankfully.
Might have to actually spend some time practicing though. I was a big fan of the Lost Vikings games as a kid, while I'm usually quite fine just picking a random level 1 hero and learning their skills on the fly, these guys are a bit intimidating. Need some time to practice I guess. I mean it's not like I can't handle 3 units, I've played more than my share of RTSes in my day. But I doubt it'll be like when I pick someone like Greymane and do well having never used him or even read his abilities.
I do find it funny that when someone starts raging and barking orders in chat it's always the guy with 11 deaths that doesn't show up for objectives. But that's this genre I guess. It's easy to mute thankfully.
Might have to actually spend some time practicing though. I was a big fan of the Lost Vikings games as a kid, while I'm usually quite fine just picking a random level 1 hero and learning their skills on the fly, these guys are a bit intimidating. Need some time to practice I guess. I mean it's not like I can't handle 3 units, I've played more than my share of RTSes in my day. But I doubt it'll be like when I pick someone like Greymane and do well having never used him or even read his abilities.
I am so out of practice with Morales. Went into a QM as her and definitely had trouble during pitched team fights in triaging the team. Of course, it didn't help that it was a no warrior game and we had both Kerrigan and Genji (given their constant dives and chasing).
Uther 2.0 though, I'm having more success with. My current talent build for him:
1) Wave of Light - Silver touch is much harder to finish the quest for, and I really value longer length armor
4) I prefer Holy Shock here for more versatility in Uther's kit, but Holy Fire is never bad
7) I prefer Guardian of Ancient kings here because I don't play coordinated enough games to take Hand of Protection (his version of Cleanse)
10) Divine Shield
13) This tier I haven't settled on a preference yet, actually. Well Met might edge out the other two slightly for me, altho against the right comp I'll have a hard time passing up Spell Shield
16) Beacon of Light
20) I love Divine Protection for armor stacking, but it's hard to pass up the rez on Redemption. This usually comes down to how much I've been dying in the current game.
Uther 2.0 though, I'm having more success with. My current talent build for him:
1) Wave of Light - Silver touch is much harder to finish the quest for, and I really value longer length armor
4) I prefer Holy Shock here for more versatility in Uther's kit, but Holy Fire is never bad
7) I prefer Guardian of Ancient kings here because I don't play coordinated enough games to take Hand of Protection (his version of Cleanse)
10) Divine Shield
13) This tier I haven't settled on a preference yet, actually. Well Met might edge out the other two slightly for me, altho against the right comp I'll have a hard time passing up Spell Shield
16) Beacon of Light
20) I love Divine Protection for armor stacking, but it's hard to pass up the rez on Redemption. This usually comes down to how much I've been dying in the current game.
HubbaBubba
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Also always the people who get mad when you don't join the team fight they start when you are already down 2 teammates and they want to fight 3 v 5.
I think holy shock is a trap talent so i usually end up taking holy fire since that's what is left. At 16 consider getting tyr's or benediction, both are really strong. I think you can land cleanse if you are landing guardian procs. As uther u do wanna die at the right time tho to win fights, which is why redemption is always good
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to keep playing around with those talents.
Dead Prince
Banned
Does Week 3 start today?
just looking for some people to party up later today so i don't feel bad when we lose xD
just looking for some people to party up later today so i don't feel bad when we lose xD
The biggest thing to me is that Uther has a newly defined purpose. He used to be mainly about burst healing, and while that's still true, he now adds temporary armor to every target he heals (and also heals himself when he heals anyone, meaning he also gets that armor). It means he now pairs greatly with squishy heroes or those who don't have any ways of getting armor themselves. Based on his winrates, this seems to be working very well with a second support.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I was wracking my brain what Force of Will had to with that clip. To be fair that game really was on bkid imo. Tempo never even had to fear a mosh from bkid as even when he went for it they were bad.
First off, you shouldn't be trying to kill a Murky as tank Varian. Just a waste of your time. Has little to do with Varian and everything to do with Murky. Your damage as Taunt Varian comes off of people resetting your Heroic Strike while you Parry. You're not gonna get enough attacks incoming from Murky to get the resets, so you just don't have the damage. You're basically just wasting Taunt if you use it on Murky except in a circumstance where his Egg is down and a kill will result in a full death timer for him.
As for Twin Blades vs Taunt, that may come down to your MMR range.
I detailed this a few days back, but at certain levels people just don't know to follow up on the taunt. Twin Blades is a fun build, but I doubt I'd go whole hog on Parry with it. Don't think that's the way to do it simply because he gets so much healing from the level 7 talent Second Wind, and you want to take High King's Quest at level 1 because of the increase in damage. You are (hopefully) not eating as much damage as Twin Blades Varian as you are as Taunt Varian, so Parry build loses it's usefulness, and the other two talents just simply synergize better with those fast auto attacks. The flipside of that is that if your team does follow up on the Taunt, based on how Varian works in QM matchmaking you are doing a disservice to your team by not going tank. I mean, he has like a 5 to 6% higher winrate in QM than he does in HL. It's just too strong since he doesn't get matched against tanks because he doesn't necessarily have to be a tank, yet you can get into a match against zero tanks and go Taunt and just let your team run roughshod over the enemy because they have no frontline and you're hard af to kill.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
he had his moments here and there but you're right and were before that he is a weak link and so is Kenma.
If i were to compare the two id say kenma holds on to ideal situations too hard and also doesnt play enough outside of scrims so he does really badly adapting to clownfests and plays that dont pan out, plus his mechanics arent quick enough in those situations too. Bkid is kinda like a puppy they are training (this sounds super disparaging but i dunno how to put it); u mix a guy like kenma (who kinda envisions these optimal scenarios) and a guy like bkid (who seems primarily concerned w/ just making it through the day and trying to figure out how to play like his team wants to play) and it's a pretty bad combo. I dont think bkid is a bad player or anything but i think the way he has integrated himself into the team has resulted in him being the weakest one there, like maybe if they let him shotcall a couple of scrims that would help? But yeh the team is a hot mess and look like theyll have to play relegation matches for sure at this pace
scoobs
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The bottom tier teams sure, but if you caught that Liquid/Dignitas series idk how you could think that.
I should have said NA.
Suddenlyt all is clear.
Yeah, NA is still really rusty and not shaking up well. Still doesn't feel like its really gelling there at all, and even the best teams make some really weird plays. You can hear the pain in Dread's voice when casting.
I agree NA is continuing to regress and there's some pretty abysmal play, but I chalk the latter up mainly to Dread. His innate directive is to criticize, sometimes harshly, instead of how other casters tend to search for scenarios where a suboptimal pick might work. At times he just seems to get straight catatonic with a pick/decision/talent because of how tilted it makes him. Never seen a caster get so personally offended by the play, it's both kind of hilarious and kind of offputting at the same time.
Yep, that's what I was getting at. Dread has gone full Brit with his cynicism at this point. He expects the worst and casts like it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
definitely, the team has a strong core. If it weren't for the Buechters I'd be rooting for them.
Does anyone know what time Nexus Challenge Quest 2 is due to go live? Website says it should be today but I just checked and it's still not there, is it one of those things where it doesn't change till 7pm or something?
EDIT: also, I'm new to HotS (just playing it to get the Overwatch D.va stuff really), I notice I start with 100 of some sort of currency and that there are Mega Bundles of heroes at that price, should I buy one? Is there one that's better or more suited for noobs? Or is it just a case of picking one that has characters I like in it?
EDIT: also, I'm new to HotS (just playing it to get the Overwatch D.va stuff really), I notice I start with 100 of some sort of currency and that there are Mega Bundles of heroes at that price, should I buy one? Is there one that's better or more suited for noobs? Or is it just a case of picking one that has characters I like in it?
Dunno when it starts but blizz typically makes changes on tuesdays
Also yeah absolutely get a bundle, a hero will usually run you 750 gems. You can only pick one tho, i read that the assassin bundle gives the most bang for your buck but personally i wouldnt make a decision based off of that
Also yeah absolutely get a bundle, a hero will usually run you 750 gems. You can only pick one tho, i read that the assassin bundle gives the most bang for your buck but personally i wouldnt make a decision based off of that
Human Trashcan
Banned
I'm digging the D3 monk, he's like a cool assassin/healer hybrid. He can totally delete some squishies with certain specs. Is he considered good?
He's not bad but not as strong for the team as most other healers (gives ms boost on heal and good ult choices). His play kinda revolves around being self-sufficient w/ his q, being a threat that draws aggro when he's in, and manipulating fights w/ his zipping around, it's pretty fun. Most healers in this game are all pretty strong atm
scoobs
Member
Yes he's even played as a solo support with his damage build in the pro scene. He's not top tier, but very good.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I haven't been in this much misery after the release of a new map since Battlefield of Eternity. I feel like things will improve after more people have more experience, but I fundamentally feel Hanamura comes across like an unpolished first idea. I can't believe the same people who thought this was ready to go live took down Mines for 6 months for a rework.
Went 4 W to 10 L this weekend. I start to play dumb when I've been playing assassins too long and not enough support, but as of right now I hate the Uther rework and would rather play Tassadar. I'm honestly about to pick up Tyrande just because I got like 5 skins for her
Went 4 W to 10 L this weekend. I start to play dumb when I've been playing assassins too long and not enough support, but as of right now I hate the Uther rework and would rather play Tassadar. I'm honestly about to pick up Tyrande just because I got like 5 skins for her