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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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Try on release.
scoobs
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You need to force yourself to get used to it. Its going to feel weird for a few days, but eventually it will become second nature.
I honestly believe that unless you are an APM god, you are holding your skill ceiling back by not using quickcast. I know chu8 doesn't use it, but he is really the only streamer or pro I can think of that doesn't. Everything is just faster, and landing skill shots is significantly easier.
There are certain abilities i'd recommend NOT using quickcast with. Stuff that you have to precisely line up (Ring of Front on Jaina for example) you should probably not use quick cast.
i just pressed all the buttons
quickcast is supposed to be better cuz it minimizes delay (in theory) but I've never made the switch and prob never will
in games like mobas you prob don't really benefit much from the advantage it brings since the micro is low anyway, i can't think of times where quickcast would have saved me vs. not being a dum dum
scoobs
Member
It is definitely quicker, you press 1 button, instead 1 button + a mouse click. Just force yourself. I resisted for the first 6 months or so that I played this game, because I didn't think it was a big deal either, and its so hard to break habits.
I really think it is a big improvement now. My APM is shit, and playing heroes like Sonya and using abilities like Slam was a pain in the ass, or Tracers blink was also really annoying to use.
You're good as is though brian!, but i'd say for the average Joe, quickcast will improve reaction times and improve skill shot accuracy.
I really think it is a big improvement now. My APM is shit, and playing heroes like Sonya and using abilities like Slam was a pain in the ass, or Tracers blink was also really annoying to use.
You're good as is though brian!, but i'd say for the average Joe, quickcast will improve reaction times and improve skill shot accuracy.
scoobs
Member
break free from the chains that are holding you back
So here's a question... why pick Zeratul over Valeera? I feel like she does his job better. I guess Void Prison is still the GOAT ultimate for setting up wombos... but she does everything else better.
i think every valeera post ive had says that i havent played her and have only played with/against her using something that directly counters her so feel free to disregard.
on paper i feel like zeratul can do things like set up, wave clear, poke, and escape in ways that valeera cant but i might just be ignorant of those things w/r/t her, like to me valeera's big strength is her long cc
blink is actually one of those skills that id say benefits tremendously from quickcast, esp. if you are getting cc'd down
if the vorpal blade change im reading about is intentional then he got nerfed pretty hard though
on paper i feel like zeratul can do things like set up, wave clear, poke, and escape in ways that valeera cant but i might just be ignorant of those things w/r/t her, like to me valeera's big strength is her long cc
blink is actually one of those skills that id say benefits tremendously from quickcast, esp. if you are getting cc'd down
if the vorpal blade change im reading about is intentional then he got nerfed pretty hard though
Dunno. She's definitely easier to survive with, no doubt, at least in my experience. I ended up going 6-4 with her today. 4-0 on my alt and 2-4 on my main.
5 or 6 of those we had no Tassadar versus them having a Tassadar, which made things a bit rough. Heroes like KT (bomb spreading), Abathur (mines), and really anyone with an AOE make it more difficult for you to get any kind of good opener reliably.
Man, there was some massive feeding from other Valeera's. I averaged 2.1 deaths and my opponents averaged 5.9 deaths per game. We faced two who died 10 times, two who died 8 times, and two who died 7 times. Actually, we only had 3 games where the enemy Valeera died 5 times or less.
The silence build is pretty good. I feel like her level 7 talents suck, but maybe I'm missing something. I can't tell if I like the regen globe talent at 1 or Subtlety. If I had one complaint it would be that her heroics are pretty god damn lackluster.
5 or 6 of those we had no Tassadar versus them having a Tassadar, which made things a bit rough. Heroes like KT (bomb spreading), Abathur (mines), and really anyone with an AOE make it more difficult for you to get any kind of good opener reliably.
Man, there was some massive feeding from other Valeera's. I averaged 2.1 deaths and my opponents averaged 5.9 deaths per game. We faced two who died 10 times, two who died 8 times, and two who died 7 times. Actually, we only had 3 games where the enemy Valeera died 5 times or less.
The silence build is pretty good. I feel like her level 7 talents suck, but maybe I'm missing something. I can't tell if I like the regen globe talent at 1 or Subtlety. If I had one complaint it would be that her heroics are pretty god damn lackluster.
TBH they both feel very boring and not impactful.
Smoke Bomb sounds awesome on paper, and if you get to use it properly, it is awesome...
...the problem is most team fights are a battle of constant tug and pull with one team often chasing the other. So unless you just run into a team that wants to stack up or stand in one spot, usually all it does is make you disappear for a few seconds while everyone else keeps fighting outside of it. Considering your job is to do damage, that's not very good so it just leaves you wondering if you should've taken Cloak because it's only useful as an aggro drop instead of as an actual bait and switch.
Smoke Bomb sounds awesome on paper, and if you get to use it properly, it is awesome...
...the problem is most team fights are a battle of constant tug and pull with one team often chasing the other. So unless you just run into a team that wants to stack up or stand in one spot, usually all it does is make you disappear for a few seconds while everyone else keeps fighting outside of it. Considering your job is to do damage, that's not very good so it just leaves you wondering if you should've taken Cloak because it's only useful as an aggro drop instead of as an actual bait and switch.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
With the rooster race rather than non-participation I have far more often seen people wasting items by bringing the rooster stuff it doesn't want (I'd guess because the prior event games required no discernment). This wastes time because then you have to run off and get the newly appeared one when it does want that item. It's frustrating to see your whole team so busily participating but not paying attention. It'd be a better design if it just didn't take the wrong item from people so if everyone grabbed a different item then all stood in the circle it auto-finishes.
jaundicejuice
Member
Valeera isn't a teamfight hero, so at 7 I've been picking Assassinate to help pick off lone targets, which aren't always present depending on the enemy team.
Cheap Shot is more impactful on a support or backline damage dealer than trying to drop Smoke Bomb in the middle of a giant melee scrum where there's a shitton of cc and AoE damage being thrown around. Cloak of Shadows is probably more valuable in teamfights than Smoke Bomb because it allows her to get more safely get in and out of a fight. Even if it isn't as sexy as Smoke bomb, it seems more practical versus more coordinated teams.
I kinda wished I waited until Valeera was free to play like I did Varian and Zul'jin. Kinda feel like I wasted 15k gold on a hero I don't particularly enjoy and my year long boost from last year just expired. Valeera has got so little utility outside of teamfights, worse waveclear than Chromie, she's basically a melee version of Nova.
I did finally buy Zul'jin (with gold) tho, he's a hell of a lot of fun.
Cheap Shot is more impactful on a support or backline damage dealer than trying to drop Smoke Bomb in the middle of a giant melee scrum where there's a shitton of cc and AoE damage being thrown around. Cloak of Shadows is probably more valuable in teamfights than Smoke Bomb because it allows her to get more safely get in and out of a fight. Even if it isn't as sexy as Smoke bomb, it seems more practical versus more coordinated teams.
I kinda wished I waited until Valeera was free to play like I did Varian and Zul'jin. Kinda feel like I wasted 15k gold on a hero I don't particularly enjoy and my year long boost from last year just expired. Valeera has got so little utility outside of teamfights, worse waveclear than Chromie, she's basically a melee version of Nova.
I did finally buy Zul'jin (with gold) tho, he's a hell of a lot of fun.
Yeah gonna try it out and see how it goes. Do you use regular quick cast or on release?
scoobs
Member
Regular, idk how people can use on release
Apparently, you can do the rooster quest alone with tracer + AIs. You can farm them since the AIs count as not completed the quest for the day. Of course, if you get the event you have to complete the game but still. I like the golden rooster better but blizzard made the event way harder than it needed to be.
The other tip I've heard for solo AI is to use TLV.
I'm not going to waste my time until they make the event significantly easier though. I'm usually pretty big on completing every event, but I just don't feel like going to those lengths this time.
I use on release for a lot of abilities. Long range things that require a lot of aim like stitches hook or tyrande stuff, I feel like it helps a lot hitting targets who are moving perpendicular to me because it makes it easier to visualize the projectile travel time when I have the outline. But there's a lot of things Where it doesn't matter like stitches slam or chens fire breath.
I'm so happy they let you decide it independtly. This is the only moba that makes it so easy to do that.
I haven't gotten the rooster race event yet, but when I do I full on plan to just ride around in circles on my golden cock doing nothing.
scoobs
Member
Golden cock is available in the store already for 10k gold, no event needed
thekillermuffin
Member
As someone who has Rexxar at lvl 10, my hot take on the rework:
I really like the talent rework; I can still make Misha a godly tank while sprinkling in some camp-specific talents for solo laning and camp capture.
The new system for Misha feels like they streamlined the buttons while sacrificing minute control. I'm not a huge fan, but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually. A lot of muscle memory that I have to shake off.
Also I rarely die in my Rexxar games, so Animal Husbandry feels like a cheating talent.
I really like the talent rework; I can still make Misha a godly tank while sprinkling in some camp-specific talents for solo laning and camp capture.
The new system for Misha feels like they streamlined the buttons while sacrificing minute control. I'm not a huge fan, but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually. A lot of muscle memory that I have to shake off.
Also I rarely die in my Rexxar games, so Animal Husbandry feels like a cheating talent.
Yea that's the point. Why would I participate in the pleb event when I've already got the superior golden version?
They've fixed it a long with a lot of things. It used to be like a console command just to get the skill shot indicator even.
it's just like a generic green arrow thats the same for every ability and item though. at least it tells you when you're out of range.
TheSadRanger
Banned
All you gotta do is right click on the coin and drop it off at the golden rooster with the giant circle around it :/
It takes time for some people to notice the rooster, or they just stand around after dropping the first item.
RNG is the worst offender, though. It's pretty ridiculous. I played 10 matches and I'm at 3/25.
It needs a specific item 4 times on a tight clock. It's asking a lot of people at the start it seems. Which saddens me too.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I wonder how teams are scrimming for that.
PTR servers are currently running the HGC build so instead of being one version forward they are using it to run one version backward.
Heroes of the Dorm Carbot trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFQjVWVKYU0
Holy shit, give me that Arthas as a goalie with Zamboni Syndragosa skin. Plz Blizz.
Holy shit, give me that Arthas as a goalie with Zamboni Syndragosa skin. Plz Blizz.
Orochinagis
Member
Oh, you cant do the rooster event alone, damm
Wow at the QQ about Heroes of the Dorm being on Facebook live. People will literally bitch about anything and everything. The first year it was ESPN being on cable. The second it was because it wasn't all free to view and they had sign up for Sling.tv if they didn't have cable. Now Facebook because Facebook is so "lesser" and/or it's evil. Amazing.
Virtually no one who is going to post on reddit or here likes Facebook, obviously, but honestly for this it's fine. It's accessible to everyone since it's not on cable, the quality is good enough to where 95% of people aren't going to give a shit, and Blizzard gets financial backing in funding a great tournament.
The complaint isn't so much about ESPN or Facebook live so much as it's about things not being on Twitch. Everyone gets pissed at Blizzard for using these other services but it's not Blizzard's fault Twitch isn't willing to pay for exclusivity. Twitch figures that by being the big fish they can just get all this shit for free or with select partnerships and for the most part they are right. Blizzard wants a bigger audience and a more profitable partnership, so they search elsewhere.
The complaint isn't so much about ESPN or Facebook live so much as it's about things not being on Twitch. Everyone gets pissed at Blizzard for using these other services but it's not Blizzard's fault Twitch isn't willing to pay for exclusivity. Twitch figures that by being the big fish they can just get all this shit for free or with select partnerships and for the most part they are right. Blizzard wants a bigger audience and a more profitable partnership, so they search elsewhere.
Orochinagis
Member
IA match, quit, IA match, quit, IA match, rooster event yay!, we failed, quit x10