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[Rhaknar]

re-setting up all sorts of authenticators is the worst part of getting a new phone ;_;

 

[Skab]

You people wanting a second d3 crusader before a d2 pally absolutely disgust me.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

You people wanting a second d3 crusader before a d2 pally absolutely disgust me.

Oooh, A d2 pally with Fist of the Heavens as a Heroic... hell yea

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

You people wanting a second d3 crusader before a d2 pally absolutely disgust me.

you're just old

 

[Orochinagis]

You people wanting a second d3 crusader before a d2 pally absolutely disgust me.

A multi aura Pally like Karazhim mechanics would be cool.

So accoring to some random leaks the incoming heroes would be KT, Firebat, Junkrat and Ana in that order

 

[Alavard]

Since we were discussing the skins before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...realized_kt_and_3_skins_are_for_the_4_undead/

Kt is a Lich.
Jaina is a Dreadlord.
Sonya is a Death Knight.
Zagara is a Crypt Lord.
Yes, those are just Scourge-themed things, but they're not randomly chosen, from Naxxramas or whatever, they're Undead heroes from WarCraft 3!

 

[Orochinagis]

Since we were discussing the skins before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...realized_kt_and_3_skins_are_for_the_4_undead/

Actually, Jaina is from the fanbase speculating Jaina becoming a dreadlord since the start of Legion which never happened.

Zagara was a easy choice since blizzard hinted a lot of similarities with Anubarak

I hate Sonya, but we dont have a better warrior candidate from another franchise

 

[Zackat]

The one true KT has finally arrived. Bend the knee, false Kael'thas believers.

 

[Skab]

A multi aura Pally like Karazhim mechanics would be cool.

So accoring to some random leaks the incoming heroes would be KT, Firebat, Junkrat and Ana in that order

I've always wanted them to have him be multiclass, and a bit of a cross between Kharazim and Xul.

His level 1 talent would be a choice between one of three auras, with the aura you pick kind of determining your overall roll. Might for dps, Prayer for healing, and Defiance for tank.

Or something like that.

Anyway, yay KT.

 

[Alur]

alt skin already fantastic

You're goddamn right.

The one true KT has finally arrived. Bend the knee, false Kael'thas believers.

Bend the knee or burn freeze!

Just glad he's an assassin, though I agree with Maledict. The delay on these abilities can go either way.

 

[WonderRade]

we all know the next paladin archetype is goin to be a wow pally. liadrin or maraad let's go

 

[kirblar]

Going by the profile changes, looks like there's a lot of changes coming for healers to try and fix the current issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6v6op5/changes_to_heroes_on_blizz_website/

Auriel/Uther/Lucio all getting changes.

 

[scoobs]

Lucio buff seems extreme?

 

[protonium]

.

 

[kirblar]

Defense Matrix getting nerfed? (in OW) Thank god.

 

[Orochinagis]

yay for Butcher nerfs, dude can easily get fed without actually doing kills for himself

 

[protonium]

.

 

[brian!]

Wow 2 sec aoe taunt on garrosh

 

[kirblar]

Wow 2 sec aoe taunt on garrosh

Not surprised to see a buff there due to his completely lack of mobility.

If you're getting mass AOE taunted by Garrosh you fucked up and dove him.

 

[Skab]

we all know the next paladin archetype is goin to be a wow pally. liadrin or maraad let's go

You already have Uther.

Also next you'll get Yrel and like it.

 

[Orochinagis]

You already have Uther.

Also next you'll get Yrel and like it.

I really want Tuulani to be in HotS, Yrel was boring, draenei form of John Snow

 

[scoobs]

I think a Retribution Paladin is the obvious next pally, not sure who that would be from lore though.

 

[Skab]

I think a Retribution Paladin is the obvious next pally, not sure who that would be from lore though.

Tirion Fordring.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Tirion Fordring.

They love Tirion, but they also seem to like Liadrin based on her getting a portrait in hearthstone.

 

[brian!]

Not surprised to see a buff there due to his completely lack of mobility.

If you're getting mass AOE taunted by Garrosh you fucked up and dove him.

I mean the aoe is strong but you still get a 2 sec taunt on any target you flip or throw, like he has the tools to set this up, plus like you mentioned the taunt's very effective against teams that need to dive.

 

[WonderRade]

I think a Retribution Paladin is the obvious next pally, not sure who that would be from lore though.

I mean, they could probably almost any big wow pally fit the ret archetype and get away with it as, most of the pallys in wow do everything anyways.

All this means though is we are gonna get tirion and his ultimate will be shouting BOLVAR awkwardly

 

[kirblar]

I mean the aoe is strong but you still get a 2 sec taunt on any target you flip or throw, like he has the tools to set this up, plus like you mentioned the taunt's very effective against teams that need to dive.

He just doesn't have the tools to send himself diving in, which makes it way less scary to buff than ETCs Mosh.

Auriel has lost Bursting Light (2s heal on l7) per the Devs. This is good.

 

[brian!]

Yeah it def has more leeway with the numbers but i still think 2 sec is too long, like that plus the throw the target will be begging for a cleanse

 

[scoobs]

Given how dreadfully short the range is on the AOE taunt, and that he has no real way to engage, I think the it definitely needed to be more powerful. I hope there are some buffs to his base numbers that go along with it, he just needs a little more health and more AA damage I think.

Tyrande is suuuuuper strong guys

 

[brian!]

yeah i feel like butcher/tyrande could be a thing again

 

[Rhaknar]

You already have Uther.

Also next you'll get Yrel and like it.

I would like it. Yrel is awesome and the only good thing in Warlords.

 

[scoobs]

Im not one to complain about the matchmaker in this game, its quickmatch afterall, but this shouldn't even be possible.

MFPallytime is streaming some Kel'Thuzad gameplay HERE

 

[kirblar]

Jesus fuck KTZ's talent tree.

Did the same guy do this one who did Li-Ming? Cause KTZ looks really obnoxious and reset/combo heavy in the late game.

 

[Maledict]

Jesus fuck KTZ's talent tree.

Did the same guy do this one who did Li-Ming? Cause KTZ looks really obnoxious and reset/combo heavy in the late game.

Well he's the definition of a hard carry - it's built into him more than any other hero so I'd expect late game madness.

More importantly, where you are seeing this stuff? ;-)

 

[kirblar]

Well he's the definition of a hard carry - it's built into him more than any other hero so I'd expect late game madness.

More importantly, where you are seeing this stuff? ;-)

Pally stream

 

[WonderRade]

Holy cow, he is either going to be the best or the worst thing to happen to the hots meta.

Spoiler

some hyperbole

Like they went all out with the hero, the abilities, the talents, the ability effects are all extreme

 

[scoobs]

The chain ability seems crazy

Just revealed on Pallys stream: Chromie, Leoric, Jaina, and Morales reworks are in this build... holy shit

Oh my god Dreadlord Jaina is a god tier skin. Saving loot boxes now.

 

[Rhaknar]

Pallytime is streaming more #realKT right now btw

 

[Prelude.]

Very interested to see what kind of reworks they get. Especially Chromie.

 

[scoobs]

Very interested to see what kind of reworks they get. Especially Chromie.

Not a full rework. The Q quest at level 1 is baseline, hit 80 Q's and you get Past and Future Me (no longer a storm talent). Some new talents sprinkled in.

 

[Prelude.]

Not a full rework. The Q quest at level 1 is baseline, hit 80 Q's and you get Past and Future Me (no longer a storm talent). Some new talents sprinkled in.

So on top of vision and infinite mana you also get the Q quest now?

 

[scoobs]

So on top of vision and infinite mana you also get the Q quest now?

Correct.

 

[Maledict]

Thank goodness they listened to people's complaints about Chromie and responded appropriately.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Correct.

eh not just

Baseline Q quest, per hit, permanent +5 damage. On 80 hits, Past and Future Me becomes active. (where you shoot a lower damage Q from past position)

Has a stack counter (how many Qs hit in a row), which adds a bonus stack to the damage stack. (so the 2nd one gives +10 instead of +5, the third one gives +15 instead of +5).

Q damage reduced to roughly 60%

Level 1 talents: Q quest removed; Hitting 3 Q in a row, they give triple bonus damage increase.

Level 4 talents: Q pierce removed. New E talent: When Time Trap is activated, reset Q and W cooldowns.

Level 13: Reaching Through Time (Range) Removed. 30s CD activated: Swap location with Sand Clone (Q baseline quest). Steph mentions that you can B back to base and get full health/mana, and instant teleport back to the battlefield

Level 20: Piercing Sands (Infinite through heroes, but no quest procs for pierces)

it should be fairly even when it all shakes out. More talents for time traps is great imo as that was not much of a build.

 

[Prelude.]

Swapping the location is included in the baseline quest? Bye Bye is viable now? PogChamp

I never take the Q quest so I'm not sure how long it takes for 80 hits.

 

[Rhaknar]

I might splurge on that Kelthusad bundle tbh, I mean the whole thing, those skins are fantastic. Well... I mean, they should be fantastic judging from the anime short :/

 

[Alavard]

Oh wow, Morales with an energy bar instead of mana might actually get me playing her again.

 

[Eyeh4wk]

All these heroes getting reworked, except ol' Jimmy.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I love the potential skillcap of Kel'Thuzad. Nothing but skillshots which I always like to see. And Jaina rework is pretty cool too. And she has blink again!

 

[Prelude.]

They're adding some very nice UI improvements, I've always thought it was kinda dumb not being able to track The Butcher's progress like other quests.