Heroes S02 E07 - Out of Time (Canadian Stronger Dollar Feed 7PM EST on Global)

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Twilight Princess said:
but that would imply that he's infertile because everytime his sperms will just go back to him !
No, he is the most fertile man in the world, able to jizz like a dolphin. Unfortunately, though, the women he fucks can't regenerate their damaged vaginas and fallopian tubes.
 
It's about time this show picked up. Best episode yet this season. I suppose it wouldn't have been as good without some of the setup of the previous episodes, but I have renewed hope that the next 4 eps are going to be really good.
 
the strike is not changing anything about the current story in Heroes. it was always planned to be wrapped up by episode 11. this season has been planned as two volumes from the start.
 
JodyAnthony said:
now Good Eats..Good Eats IS the greatest television ever. It's already set to on the ol' DVR. Greenbean casserole FTW.

some things Alton tells you to do are just nuts.

he wants me to spend $20 billion on something, then save me 20 cents by turning my trashcan into a deep frier.
 
The Canadian preview could have been a preview for tonights episode. It was really nothing special and you're not missing anything by not seeing it.
 
Linkzg said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X7eAvOnAwcA

NBC preview for next episode, it looks awesome.

for some reason Canada is lagging on getting their preview up despite a 2 hour head start.
About time I got the answers I want. What the hell did happen to DL and where did Sylar go? Send Elle back to Veronica Mars. She did nothing to keep me interested in her character. And the flying kid gets on my damn nerves more than Micah and Molly. And why are we back to "save the cheerleader save the world" plot again?
 
I honestly can't believe the busted out the "We've got to find this cheerleader to save the world" plot again. just shoot me in the fucking face.
 
minus_273 said:
I saw this on NBC's board but damn its so true:
http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=771585&st=80

Heroes has jumped the shark :(. Notice how DL does come back as a "ghost" in this episode ....
Some of those points I don't see. If you choose to give your life for a loved one yet you don't die, does that make the act of sacrifice any less poignant? Who lives or who dies is irrelevant. Peter was always willing to die. If at the beginning of the season he was about to explode, he still would've asked somebody to shoot him. That's the kind of guy he is. Nathan was the one who finally chose his destiny, but I don't think there was any right or wrong way to do it (personally, I would've had Peter die and Nathan survive).

I hate it when people talk about character development. Adaptation actually said it very well. In real life, some people grow, some people stay the same, and some people go back on themselves. Everybody wants some moment of realization from the main character where he changes, but it doesn't always happen. Nathan I think was always meant to sacrifice himself for the greater good, and it fits the story perfectly and makes it emotional. But I'm just saying that the direction isn't necessarily important. It is how it enfolds and how it is right for the character.

I also have to disagree about Sylar (and the only character on the show that I feel will never be whacked off is Hiro). Sylar is effectively the show's main villian. Others may come and go. There might even be more powerful villians. But he's the fun one that you always want to see as a secondary story to the other threats. Like Magneto, if that's a proper analogy (don't really know anything about X-men). They can keep creating larger and larger threats until all of existence is at stake, but you always have Magneto there with whatever ideals he has. Sylar is only a threat to those like him. That doesn't mean they won't do other things.

I'm not gonna go through them all. Some of them I agree with. Retreads of storylines, Claire and West are mediocre at best and poorly written. But the show is starting to get pretty good again. And about DL's "ghost"...that wasn't a ghost. It was a trick of Parkman Senior to manipulate Nikki into killing Bob. It was actually pretty smart of him. That is nothing like what the author of that post was talking about.
 
B.K. said:
Linderman shot DL.
Yeah but he didn't die. If so it makess know since that Parkman is still alive. And the thing with Adam was no surprise at all if you payed attention to the first episodes this season. Don't be surprised when you find out one of the Petrelli brothers is actually Adam/Kensai's son. At this point I'm starting to see alot of the complaints for this season. Still love the show.
 
FIREBABY said:
Yeah but he didn't die. If so it makess know since that Parkman is still alive. And the thing with Adam was no surprise at all if you payed attention to the first episodes this season. Don't be surprised when you find out one of the Petrelli brothers is actually Adam/Kensai's son. At this point I'm starting to see alot of the complaints for this season. Still love the show.

So, breeding heroes is alot like breeding pokemon?
 
Mgoblue201 said:
Some of those points I don't see. If you choose to give your life for a loved one yet you don't die, does that make the act of sacrifice any less poignant? Who lives or who dies is irrelevant.

Exactly! God I say this so many times in "Jean Grey not staying dead at the end of the Dark Phoenix saga "ruined" her sacrifice" debates...morons.

Anywho, for those complaining about the "Save the cheerleader, save the world" thing, who's to say this isn't what it's about? The explosion in season one wasn't a worldwide thing, it was pretty much contained to NYC...obviously fallout would be greater, but still...this outbreak on the other hand kills 93% of the WORLD population in just a year or so, and it's now being theorized that Claire's healing ability could counteract the virus, and possibly any mutations/variants of it. "STC,STW" now fits a broader objective.

And please, Matt doesn't have "new" powers, he's just(finally I might add) expanding the USE AND APPLICATION of his EXISTING power. This is the benefit of having a broad, versatile power such as telepathy. First "reading" minds, then "projecting" his own thoughts into the minds of others, now "manipulating" minds in the sense of casting sophisticated illusions directly into someone's head...and as stated, he can also manipulate someone's senses, and he'll probably be able to manipulate their bodily and metabolic functions eventually.

Anywho, regarding Claire and just tossing this out there, perhaps it's no coincidence that she has the same healing power as "Kensei/Adam". If he's the "start", she could be a more evolved and "perfected" version of him, honed through generation after generation of mutations, and perhaps matching with "ideal" genes from the other part of her lineage. Maybe she has the potential to not just heal herself, but heal others as well, perhaps on a mass scale(like Linderman, but better), maybe her healing makes her immune to forms of mental manipulation(I would assume this would be true for Adam, otherwise how would he get papa parkman under his dominion). Given Claire's role, I would hope that the "healing" thing is more than just a coincidence, and that somehow her genetic makeup makes her a true, undiluted genetic successor to Adam.
 
At least Peter knows how to kill Kensei because he has the same weakness (the piercing of his brain that controls his regeneration).



Btw, Adam is Nathan/Peter's dad. omgwtf
 
FIREBABY said:
Yeah but he didn't die. If so it makess know since that Parkman is still alive. And the thing with Adam was no surprise at all if you payed attention to the first episodes this season. Don't be surprised when you find out one of the Petrelli brothers is actually Adam/Kensai's son. At this point I'm starting to see alot of the complaints for this season. Still love the show.

Well, they were standing over DL's grave when Micah and Nikki were introduced into Season 2, I'm pretty sure he's dead unless they were pulling the wool over our eyes.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
At least Peter knows how to kill Kensei because he has the same weakness (the piercing of his brain that controls his regeneration).



Btw, Adam is Nathan/Peter's dad. omgwtf
Are you sure, bububut he's blond

Knowing his powers, he seems like he should be directly related to claire (i.e. her real dad) but the writers fucked that boat ages ago. Would have been cool though.
 
I remember watching the OC and seeing a product placement every week. Heroes is going down the same road, it seems. We should expect musical artist plugs at the end of episodes soon.

Everything on that list of "when you think that Heroes jumped the shark" is true. Those negative points should all be taken seriously by the writers. I'm not sure they understand that they're diluting everything season 1 established.

I mean, the sneak peak for next week sounds apologetic for season 2 so far!

okay, so you're pissed off and confused?! don't worry, in the next episode we'll explain it all to you! you have questions about the patrelli brothers right? please! please keep watching!
 
Fatalah said:
I remember watching the OC and seeing a product placement every week. Heroes is going down the same road, it seems. We should expect musical artist plugs at the end of episodes soon.

Everything on that list of "when you think that Heroes jumped the shark" is true. Those negative points should all be taken seriously by the writers. I'm not sure they understand that they're diluting everything season 1 established.

I mean, the sneak peak for next week sounds apologetic for season 2 so far!

okay, so you're pissed off and confused?! don't worry, in the next episode we'll explain it all to you! you have questions about the patrelli brothers right? please! please keep watching!


dude, they fooled us once with THE BOX.
 
Mgoblue201 said:
Some of those points I don't see. If you choose to give your life for a loved one yet you don't die, does that make the act of sacrifice any less poignant? Who lives or who dies is irrelevant. Peter was always willing to die. If at the beginning of the season he was about to explode, he still would've asked somebody to shoot him. That's the kind of guy he is. Nathan was the one who finally chose his destiny, but I don't think there was any right or wrong way to do it (personally, I would've had Peter die and Nathan survive).

Tell me about it. I'm getting sick of hearing how Nathan not being dead demeans their sacrifice. Just because he survived, it doesn't lessen his sacrifice or his intention any less. Speaking of which, the trailer for next week episode really explains how he managed to survive (albeit slightly charred):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X7eAvOnAwcA
 
Am I the only nerd who got chills when Peters' mom said "Peter, you're the most powerful of us all"? :lol

Please let us have an epic battle. Please. I was so disappointed last season when Peter went up against Sylar and nothing happened.
 
Does having regeneration power means eternal youth? I don't read X-Men, so I'm not sure if Wolverine ages or not (but since the show is using some kind of scientific bases to explain their powers, I don't believe lizards live forever just because they can regenerate lost limbs). Anyway, I doubt Adam knew what time period Hiro is from, and while he has a connection to Kaito, we don't actually know if he realize that they are related.
 
holy crap, Heroes just got awesome again.

Adams introduction has probably been the best thing the show has ever done. Hiros ascent from geek to bad-ass was a happy side-story.

Im guessing all of the company are distant decendants of Adam, he's the source point of the mutations.
 
how can you guys love this episode?

The whole Hiro thing was HORRIBLY written, full of plot holes and unbelievable character motivations.

Suresh and Claire were acti ng like dumbasses.


HOrribly predictable ending and a oorly edited sword fight.

Also now Hiro can Time Travel Fairly accurately.......which bring up a lot of questions about "why he didnt go a little further back in time and save everyone?"
 
Kabuki Waq said:
how can you guys love this episode?

The whole Hiro thing was HORRIBLY written, full of plot holes and unbelievable character motivations.

Suresh and Claire were acti ng like dumbasses.


HOrribly predictable ending and a oorly edited sword fight.

Also now Hiro can Time Travel Fairly accurately.......which bring up a lot of questions about "why he didnt go a little further back in time and save everyone?"

It really wasn't that bad.

They already explained why Hiro doesn't just jump around time fixing things, he threw himself back intime by mistake, thought that he'd messed up history by saving the fake Kensei, so tried to fix it.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
how can you guys love this episode?

The whole Hiro thing was HORRIBLY written, full of plot holes and unbelievable character motivations.

Suresh and Claire were acti ng like dumbasses.


HOrribly predictable ending and a oorly edited sword fight.

Also now Hiro can Time Travel Fairly accurately.......which bring up a lot of questions about "why he didnt go a little further back in time and save everyone?"

Hiro is still a screwup. If he jumped around time trying to fix everything the world would be borked. Case in point, future Hiro. He didn't do what he set out to do, he just altered it. Much like present Hiro altered the story about the sword saint.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
how can you guys love this episode?

The whole Hiro thing was HORRIBLY written, full of plot holes and unbelievable character motivations.

Suresh and Claire were acti ng like dumbasses.


HOrribly predictable ending and a oorly edited sword fight.

Also now Hiro can Time Travel Fairly accurately.......which bring up a lot of questions about "why he didnt go a little further back in time and save everyone?"

because we have fun with a silly television show instead of pointing out every flaw in everything.
 
The show almost lost me a few weeks ago with that Monica/Claire heavy episode where it seemed like absolutely NOTHING happened. Luckily, I think it's been on the upswing ever since. Last weeks badass Noah moment and the sheer amount of craziness (even if it was predictable) that occured in this episode have me back on board. I still can't stand how terrible Claire has been this season, but I'm still hoping all these cringe-worthy moments are leading up to a big pay off where West is horribly killed.

Looking forward to next week's, especially since it appears a lot of questions are getting answered and there's a lack of Micah/Monica/West in the previews.
 
I honestly dont understand how people can watch this trash. Its the most poorly written show ive EVER seen. Hell, even WWE storylines have more depth and better acting.
 
I'm glad its finally coming together.

TheDuce22 said:
I honestly dont understand how people can watch this trash. Its the most poorly written show ive EVER seen. Hell, even WWE storylines have more depth and better acting.

YAWN:

Here's a suggestion to help you make a better use of your time--
GTFO of this thread, and don't read/post in Heroes threads anymore
 
TheDuce22 said:
I honestly dont understand how people can watch this trash. Its the most poorly written show ive EVER seen. Hell, even WWE storylines have more depth and better acting.
You really need to watch just about any show on the CW.
 
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