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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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So I just got District B13 Blu-ray in. What the ****, the only english subs are for the hearing impaired. It's a ****ing french language movie, ****ers, MAYBE I'm not deaf and just want to watch it as it was intended without constantly having "[HELICOPTER WHIRRING]" and "[SIGHING]" show up? Ugh.
Unfortunately 28 days later was shot on a canon XL1S minidvd camcorder.
lupin23rd said:
Unfortunately 28 days later was shot on a canon XL1S minidvd camcorder.
The Main Event said:
No joke, the Blu-Ray library KILLS the HD DVD library, for me atleast. I counted 22 BD titles and 7 HD DVD titles that I would buy, including on both formats.
So if/when Blu Ray wins, then do all the movies that were released prior to the tipping point get printed on BD or just the titles from then on?
The Main Event
Member
sypher said:
Well, everyone has different movie taste. As a dual format owner (because of the PS3), I chose HD DVD as my primary HD format because there are more movies that interest me on it.
EviLore said:
I think Magnolia fixed that and offers a standard English subtitle option on the HD DVD version. Of course can't confirm it since I can't seem to find anyone who has a copy, but I think I read somewhere an e-mail response from Magnolia mentioning that.
And just saw this on AVS:
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
sypher said:
I personally would love to have the Universal catalog on Bluray. Especially since they've been much better about catalog releases.
distantmantra
Member
Just read this over at The Digital Bits concerning The Host on Blu Ray:
Magnolia theatrically released the film in Korean with English subtitles, and I had never heard of an English dub before... I'm sure it will have Korean audio.
TheDigitalBits said:
Magnolia theatrically released the film in Korean with English subtitles, and I had never heard of an English dub before... I'm sure it will have Korean audio.
AgentOtaku
Member
Bebpo said:Ugh. I got this during the Amazon sale for $13, but haven't popped it in. Sounds like this will be annoying when I do watch it
actually its not...the subs are at the very bottom of the screen (unlike GitS:Innocence region1 release, where they were in the center) and the actual "hearing impaired" bits aren't as often as you'd think...
Really, I didn't even notice them and they didn't take away from the film at all......a film that is sheer concentrated awesome
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Hey DKJ, the Matrix movies on HD DVD have trueHD tracks. Good news for you, since you're always whining about the lack of lossless audio on HD DVD.
DarkJediKnight
Member
VanMardigan said:
For me audio is more important than video. Plus, I have good speakers. This is why it bothers me when these guys want me to pay extra money for HD but doesn't include master tracks. I'm still pissed about Serenity and Chronicles of Riddick.
I would have leveled Warner's office with a bulldozer if I couldn't hear the chaingun scene in master audio form. :lol Plus, Warner would be crucified by High def enthusiasts.
On another note.
DarkJediKnight said:For me audio is more important than video. Plus, I have good speakers. This is why it bothers me when these guys want me to pay extra money for HD but doesn't include master tracks. I'm still pissed about Serenity and Chronicles of Riddick.
I would have leveled Warner's office with a bulldozer if I couldn't hear the chaingun scene in master audio form. :lol Plus, Warner would be crucified by High def enthusiasts.
On another note.
yes, but what will we get for the bluray version?
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
I can't believe people get excited about format wars...lol
This is the most annoying thing I have seen in years to happen. I could care less which one "wins" but I want it to be OVER. The thought of updating my movies is already annoying in concept, add to that I may have to choose a format and not get all the ones I want?
And for the record....when talking to some people I know who don't have any clue about this format situation...they assume Blu-Ray is new and HD-DVD is just a special edition stuff. Wonder how many people think that lol
This is the most annoying thing I have seen in years to happen. I could care less which one "wins" but I want it to be OVER. The thought of updating my movies is already annoying in concept, add to that I may have to choose a format and not get all the ones I want?
And for the record....when talking to some people I know who don't have any clue about this format situation...they assume Blu-Ray is new and HD-DVD is just a special edition stuff. Wonder how many people think that lol
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Amir:
Just letting you all know that the update for HD DVD drive is slated for tomorrow (5/15).
OH YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
edit:
amir:
A lot of changes here. Top on the list are DTS and WMA Pro upgrade in addition to removing the dynamic range limitation on DD (so even that route should should better). Lip sync. And a ton of title compatibility fixes including those which use the older DVD ("standard") menus. This includes fixes needed to play Joe's DVE disc btw.
Just letting you all know that the update for HD DVD drive is slated for tomorrow (5/15).
OH YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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amir:
A lot of changes here. Top on the list are DTS and WMA Pro upgrade in addition to removing the dynamic range limitation on DD (so even that route should should better). Lip sync. And a ton of title compatibility fixes including those which use the older DVD ("standard") menus. This includes fixes needed to play Joe's DVE disc btw.
AgentOtaku said:
What format are Blu-Ray / HD-DVD subs? I know DVD subs were images, but aren't the new formats done with text?
If I understand what you're talking about correctly, why isn't there an option (unless there is) to modify subtitles to your liking, as far as the font used, font size, positioning, etc.? Why can I do that with homebrew video players but now with the new, state of the art professional media formats?
(I'm just bitter about subtitles all around. Having a fiance that is Japanese, I was hoping that every release would have subtitles in all major languages, or that we'd see movies make use of this supposed ability to download other languages. So far, seems like we're getting neither.)
Thanks to MCY_999 on Blu-ray.com
FOX on BD-J
http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/sessions/general/index.jsp?intcmp=hp2007may08_javafx_watch#GS1
There is a 13-min. 20th Century Fox video presentation on their BD-J plan for the future. It was done in last week's JavaOne conference. Go to Sun's General Session on Day 4 (5/11). Go to Toy Show Part 2 and watch the last 13 minutes of this video. It is a very informative presentation about their vision on BD-J.
Very interesting, shows U-control style interactivity and goes forward to online gaming with matchmaking.
Direct Link
FOX on BD-J
http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/sessions/general/index.jsp?intcmp=hp2007may08_javafx_watch#GS1
There is a 13-min. 20th Century Fox video presentation on their BD-J plan for the future. It was done in last week's JavaOne conference. Go to Sun's General Session on Day 4 (5/11). Go to Toy Show Part 2 and watch the last 13 minutes of this video. It is a very informative presentation about their vision on BD-J.
Very interesting, shows U-control style interactivity and goes forward to online gaming with matchmaking.
Direct Link
DarkJediKnight
Member
The admin of AVS just got his copies. I can't wait for mine.
distantmantra
Member
Thanks, Disney. You've cursed Blu Ray with excessive paper slip cover packaging.
The Main Event
Member
Onix said:
http://www.amazon.com/Kiss-Dragon-Blu-Ray-Jet-Li/dp/B000ICLRHA/ref=sr_1_2/103-2705202-4721438?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1179199541&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Eragon-Blu-ray-Alun-Armstrong/dp/B000NIVJEU/ref=sr_1_3/103-2705202-4721438?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1179199541&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Casino-Royale-Blu-ray-Jesper-Christensen/dp/B000MRA5NS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/103-2705202-4721438?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1179199911&sr=8-3
And I love my combo discs for new releases since my family can borrow it to watch it.
DarkJediKnight
Member
Zoe said:What will be the exclusives (compared to DVD) on those POTC releases? Can't wait
It has BD-J games, and extras not found on the 2 disc DVD.
rollingstart
Banned
DarkJediKnight said:
with the exception of Depp, the other 2 have the same expressions on both covers
DarkJediKnight
Member
Linkzg said:
Because those two are talented and Depp is not.
The Main Event
Member
DarkJediKnight said:
:lol
I'll probably get the first one. The 2nd one isn't worth owning IMO.
Cheesemeister
Member
Huh, POTC. I guess I didn't realize it was May already.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I downloaded the 360 add-on update: WOW, the sound is SO MUCH BETTER.
Lol. I'm not an audio guy, so I guess I didn't know what I was missing, but the sound is much clearer, much louder at normal levels, and ambient sounds are much more distinct and noticeable. I don't own any titles with DTS yet, but I'm expecting 2 movies from Blockbuster today, so hopefully one of those has DTS and I can try it out.
Here's Major Nelson's breakdown:
Added option for user to select from the following audio output formats via TOSLINK or HDMI:
o Digital Stereo (2 channel PCM)
o Dolby Digital 5.1
o DTS 5.1
o WMA Pro
Added "Dynamic Range Control" toggle for digital audio output
Improved HD DVD networking support
Improved HD DVD title compatibility
Improved performance with MPEG-4 AVC / H.264
1080p via HDMI is supported on the Xbox 360 Elite with HDCP compliant displays
Improved parental controls
I didn't get much time to mess around before I had to leave for work, but if anybody has time to mess with it, where would I find the Dynamic Range Control toggle option? Also, how do I access the parental controls for the HD DVD drive?
Lol. I'm not an audio guy, so I guess I didn't know what I was missing, but the sound is much clearer, much louder at normal levels, and ambient sounds are much more distinct and noticeable. I don't own any titles with DTS yet, but I'm expecting 2 movies from Blockbuster today, so hopefully one of those has DTS and I can try it out.
Here's Major Nelson's breakdown:
Added option for user to select from the following audio output formats via TOSLINK or HDMI:
o Digital Stereo (2 channel PCM)
o Dolby Digital 5.1
o DTS 5.1
o WMA Pro
Added "Dynamic Range Control" toggle for digital audio output
Improved HD DVD networking support
Improved HD DVD title compatibility
Improved performance with MPEG-4 AVC / H.264
1080p via HDMI is supported on the Xbox 360 Elite with HDCP compliant displays
Improved parental controls
I didn't get much time to mess around before I had to leave for work, but if anybody has time to mess with it, where would I find the Dynamic Range Control toggle option? Also, how do I access the parental controls for the HD DVD drive?
I hate to bud in on the Pirates of the Caribean circle jerk. They will be mine soon enough as well!
But Highdef digest mentioned that Disney plans on releasing Chronicles of Narnia!
This might have been expected/old news but it's the first time I've heard this mentioned.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...nnounces_Chronicles_of_Narnia_for_Blu-ray/626
Sad news about Cars though.
But Highdef digest mentioned that Disney plans on releasing Chronicles of Narnia!
This might have been expected/old news but it's the first time I've heard this mentioned.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...nnounces_Chronicles_of_Narnia_for_Blu-ray/626
Sad news about Cars though.
Sorry if old?
Panasonic BDP-LX70
$599
Comes with 5 movies in the box:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Transporter
Fantastic Four
Crash
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/15/panasonic-launches-600-dmp-bd10a-blu-ray-player-bundles-five-f/
It doesn't seem to be known yet when it will be available (?)
Panasonic BDP-LX70
$599
Comes with 5 movies in the box:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Transporter
Fantastic Four
Crash
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/15/panasonic-launches-600-dmp-bd10a-blu-ray-player-bundles-five-f/
It doesn't seem to be known yet when it will be available (?)
I'm a bit curious... what are the advantages of standalone BRD players compared to the PlayStation 3? A lot of people seem to have them, but personally, the value and price of the PS3 seems like a no-brainer choice to me. Though, that player right there with the movie bundles does seem a bit more competitive.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Looks like Blood Diamond HD DVD is going to introduce the next step in HD disc interactivity:
There are two New Feature areas: the first is improved Network support. Soon you will see titles appearing that will start to show what is possible when your HD DVD player has access to additional content via its mandatory ethernet connection. Blood Diamond has been announced with networking features, something that the Blu-Ray version lacks (because of course Blu-Ray players cannot do networking, or picture-in-picture, or a bunch of other things). If you want to try these new features out, be sure to enable Network Support in the player first (and you'll need an Xbox Live connection) via the new button in the on-screen UI. The other new feature is asynchronous video playback. Hard to explain succinctly what this is (and even harder to implement!) but it will allow content authors to make even better content on HD DVD.
This is from MS' Ando Pennell, so you can ignore his jabs at Blu-Ray PLEASE.
There are two New Feature areas: the first is improved Network support. Soon you will see titles appearing that will start to show what is possible when your HD DVD player has access to additional content via its mandatory ethernet connection. Blood Diamond has been announced with networking features, something that the Blu-Ray version lacks (because of course Blu-Ray players cannot do networking, or picture-in-picture, or a bunch of other things). If you want to try these new features out, be sure to enable Network Support in the player first (and you'll need an Xbox Live connection) via the new button in the on-screen UI. The other new feature is asynchronous video playback. Hard to explain succinctly what this is (and even harder to implement!) but it will allow content authors to make even better content on HD DVD.
This is from MS' Ando Pennell, so you can ignore his jabs at Blu-Ray PLEASE.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
teiresias said:
Seems like it for the add-on. I wonder what'll happen with folks who use the add-on with their pc?
BTW, darkjedi, do you have an add-on? I was messing around with the audio output options, and I could select DD 5.1, DTS, and WMA Pro. This is separate from the actual movie menu, so the movie could be set to DD 5.1 and then the output to the receiver could be DTS or WMA Pro. I really couldn't tell the difference (my movies are all DD and TrueHD) between the different output methods, but maybe you could check it out and see what sounds best, since you're an audio guy. My receiver doesn't do WMA Pro (at least I don't think it does) so I didn't bother with that option.
VanMardigan said:
Nothing will happen for PC users - it's the playback software in the 360 that just got updated. The equivalent thing would be getting a new version of PowerDVD or whatever they are using to play HD DVD discs.
I suspect DTS will sound best but ultimately you are unpacking and then doing a real-time re-encode of the audio on the disc, which is going to be lossy...
Except not star wars.DarkJediKnight said:
1. Lucasfilm has full control over home video rights, NOT fox. He could release it on anything he wanted.
2. Neither will get it. George Lucas has made himself very clear that he hates the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray war and feels both formats are a waste and will not support any new formats past DVD until digital downloads.
He waited 4 years after DVD launch to support it, far later than basically every other studio.JB1981 said:
If he caves it won't be for a very long time and he could easily release them on both formats if the war is still going on (I highly doubt he would even consider touching either if there was a war still going) since Fox has 0 say in home video release.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Cheebs is right. Claiming Star Wars as a pro-BD card is a losing movie.
But... all those other movies, yes.
But... all those other movies, yes.
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