Noisepurge
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Hitman: Absolution |OT| Police do not suspect Blood Money is involved.
- Thread starter Interfectum
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wait for the HD Collection, its on it!
indigo-cyclops
Member
I'm just waiting for the complaints about the weapon select system not being a separate, clunky rotating interface; it ain't Hitman without it.
keltickennedy
Member
Yeah that 50 levels comment is complete bull. A lot of the levels are broken off into section. For example the Terminus Hotel. You start and have to make you way to an elevator - Section 1. You are now on the upper floors of the hotel and have to make your way to a door - Section 2. Then there is a small portion where you have to walk about 5 feet to see a cutscene - Section 3.
This to him means that there are 3 levels. I don't think so.
I'm just trying to point out the bullshit. If you really believe there are 50 levels or even sub levels then I've got a gold turd to sell you. From everything that's been reported there are about 18-20 missions and they're split up into checkpointed pieces and some have even said sometimes the game won't even let you backtrack. I believe the example used was once you reach the top of the hotel it won't let you go back down.
Interfectum
Member
Are there any missions similar to that of the Opera House in Absolution? I've not read anything that's even remotely similar yet.
SonicVolcano
Member
Sub-level, section, checkpoint, whatever terminology appeals to you. And of course sizes differ. Not every level is the same.
ezekielpacman
Member
You clearly aren't reading or listening to anything positive or you would have picked up two key things...
Those 54 sub levels are apparently the sandboxes used for Contracts mode, so tell me why they would allow you to make a contract in a stage that is 10 feet long (stated by the developers in a walkthrough)? And the main reason for the smaller arenas with no back tracking is because of technology issues with streaming (again stated by the developers in the walkthrough) rather than based on an arbitrary streamlining fantasy.
Your negativity is astounding.
indigo-cyclops
Member
He believes they're outright lying to us. Toxic negativity. And there's times when I agree with Derrick but he is stirring the pot right now and it's slightly annoying.
Sure there is. From what I've seen, many of these sub-levels are as pretty huge, and none of them simply involve walking down a straight corridor to reach the next door. Many of them are about 15-20 minutes long, which could easily be defined as a 'level.'
None of them are 10 feet long corridors. That was a totally ridiculous statement you made.
Dick Justice
Banned
The guy wants to hate the game. Just ignore him.
Haven't you gone on record saying you've barely seen footage of the game? Where in the world did you get the idea that you only have 10 feet between you and the next chunk of the level outside of the tutorial stage in one section?
That's a pretty big fallacy right there. Yeah I want to hate the next game in one of my favorite franchises.
You guys are also really hanging on to the 10 feet thing literally. It's pretty clear that it's an exaggeration meaning very tiny areas don't count as levels.
We had enough of it in the other thread. If he's not planning to buy the game, why waste so much effort by posting in the OT?
Ravensmash
Member
Well, you do seem to be clinging to any negativity you can find whilst dismissing positive impressions.
And didn't PSM3 say that while levels are smaller, they are much more dense in terms of content ? That sounds like a change that could pan out positive.
Dick Justice
Banned
You're the one who ignores any positive coverage (from both news outlets and players themselves), takes one bad review, and uses that to slam the game and claim its the worst thing to grace the gaming industry since its inception. Your use of hyperbole is tiring, and the fact that you say all this shit without having even played the game is laughable. When it comes out, play it all the way through. At least then you'd actually have first hand knowledge of the game, rather than having to rely on other people's opinions to help you come up with bullshit to spew.
Personally, I'm reserving judgment until I actually have the game, and have played through it. Unlike some people, I'm capable of thinking for myself.
Are you? If you were then you'd be able to have a good idea already if you want to play it or not, instead of rushing out to give them money for a game you're not sure if you'll like or not.
Ravensmash
Member
Just found this on HitmanForums, interesting and making me optimistic again!
Will spoiler although it's only referring to achievement lists:
http://www.hitmanforum.com/index.php/topic/56808-official-review-thread-for-hitman-absolution/page__st__960
Will spoiler although it's only referring to achievement lists:
From looking at the achievement list, it looks like 11/20 levels are definitely assassination missions. I'm not counting a Personal Contract because the assassination is scripted. There could be more levels with targets, but there's definitely at least 11 assassination missions.
http://www.hitmanforum.com/index.php/topic/56808-official-review-thread-for-hitman-absolution/page__st__960
Well that's more encouraging. Now back to the pointless and irrational fear that my laptop won't be able to run this.
Dick Justice
Banned
I said I'm reserving judgment. For someone who's played through each of the games, what I've seen of Absolution looks great (The early footage didn't look so hot, but the stuff they've shown recently has been much better). So I have a good idea of whether or not I want to play it. I'll wait until I've finished it before casting judgment, something you're incapable of doing.
keltickennedy
Member
Are a lot of people going to be getting this on PC?
Castor Krieg
Banned
All the checkpoints in Absolution are activated manually. What's the problem with not activating any checkpoint at all? This is like saying that people who played earlier XCOM without save/load aka Ironman did it wrongly, because the option was not there coded from the start.
ezekielpacman
Member
It's kinda sad that people are having to scour the internet for fragments of info to rekindle any sort of positivity. Do we really need an achievement list to prove there will be more than one assassination?
I remember a feature a while back that showed the developer's top 5 accidental deaths. I mean, surely some of these are for use on targets right?
Let's also not forget these didn't even exist prior to BM, despite the revisionists doing their best to imply otherwise.
I remember a feature a while back that showed the developer's top 5 accidental deaths. I mean, surely some of these are for use on targets right?
Let's also not forget these didn't even exist prior to BM, despite the revisionists doing their best to imply otherwise.
Same.Bought on Steam three months ago
keltickennedy
Member
Interfectum
Member
The 11/20 is bullshit.
Trophies are here *SPOILERS*:
http://www.yourgamercards.net/games/view/1632-hitman-absolution
I count 8 trophies that contain "assassinate xxx" and one of those is for the tutorial mission. tutorial mission end spoiler (no character mentioned in my spoiler):
and at least this one IS a cutscene, you do nothing
Wait, I additionally read something like "defeat" a few times (2 or 3). Which probably means no assassination, but some sort of boss fight. I guess the poster on hitmanforums just counted all together, which doesn't make sense.
A lot of it sounds like damage control to me. It's not just the PCG review. EVERY review mentioned all sorts of stuff. The PCG review rated according to the series.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
It's interesting to see how misinformation has been spread about this, with the checkpoint issues and extent of linearity seemingly having been blown out if proportion and taken for fact. The fact is, I think we need to wait until we can play this ourselves to know for certain.
Ravensmash
Member
Yeah. I think someone on GAF said that they've got a copy already?
Would be nice for them to share some impressions.
You sound like one of those mythical undecided voters 2 days before the election when there are mountains of information available.
Interfectum
Member
I plan on creating a neogaf section in the OT for impressions from users as we get closer to nov 20. So hopefully the people that get it early will write up some good information for us.
MMaRsu
Member
It's not just that, like in the previous thread about the reviews jimi_dini posted that the difficulty in this game is probably all out of whack.
I think it's pretty goddamn clear already the game wont even begin to come close to Blood Money or even Silent Assassin.
Sure I have not played it but everything we have seen thus far and with all the information about the game already out there I will say fuck IO and Ill pick this game up second hand in a bargain bin. Until then I will follow this topic and replay Blood Money.
Dick Justice
Banned
And you sound like one of those nutjobs who makes up his mind about something, and ignores absolutely any evidence that might go against his own opinion. No wait, you sound like someone who can't read properly. I said I'll reserve judgment regarding how good the game itself is until I've played it. I don't really give a shit if a reviewer gives it a 10/10 and says it's the best Hitman game ever, or if another one gives it 1/10 and says it's worse than ET. It's called forming your own opinion.
I think slasher did, but hes embargoed for sure.
How do you manage to achieve that? I can't get SA ranking in any single mission!
SonicVolcano
Member
Sorry i'm on my phone. Anyway couldn't get quoted enough if this guy is saying PC Gamer is flat out lying.I already posted that one
We will see... who lies.
I think I'll trust the anonymous guy who says there are 50 levels and that the AI has always been fantastic. Even I wouldn't claim that about Blood Money, or most stealth games as it's one of the biggest flaws of the genre.
I know some of you will try to say that's only picking the flaws out but those bring up credibility issues to me. Maybe it would be different if a name was given so I could look at past work and say he got this and that right or wrong.
ezekielpacman
Member
I already posted that one
The same guy seems to be on a bit of a mission, a slightly different post here:
http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232304
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
i don't think there's been lying, per se, but I think people have gone in with their mind already made up, or with strange expectations. On the one hand, Tom Francis may have gone in already conditioned to dislike the game, but on the other hand, earlier reviews have been too lenient or haven't cared a great deal about the flaws. The contradictory info we've gotten hasn't helped.
ezekielpacman
Member
The developers are not anonymous and should not suffer 'credibility issues', but there you go again just flat out ignoring whatever doesn't fit your agenda.
Seriously, 58 minutes 25 seconds in, listen...
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/12/joystream-hitman-abolution-with-io-interactives-tore-blystad-a/
The Wizard
Member
That anonymous guy seems like he's bullshitting.
Care to explain why you think this?