I can see some exec start to waver as it becomes a reality. It's awesome on paper and in concept, but then they finally have to commit a ton of money. Someone starts wondering if Wright's visual style might be off-putting to a segment of the audience, that it might cost them potential revenue, etc. Wright doesn't want to tone down his thing, and the relationship breaks down at that point.
Hollywood Reporter: Edgar Wright just left Ant-Man
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I can see some exec start to waver as it becomes a reality. It's awesome on paper and in concept, but then they finally have to commit a ton of money. Someone starts wondering if Wright's visual style might be off-putting to a segment of the audience, that it might cost them potential revenue, etc. Wright doesn't want to tone down his thing, and the relationship breaks down at that point.
Their asses better be filming by that point.
SCULLIBUNDO
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My immediate thought.
Marvel creative umbrella continues to be something I hate. This was the film I was waiting for to prove me wrong, because Wright had this script and brought it to Marvel, not the other way around.
Pai Pai Master
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Makes more sense to wait until Comic Con as that is when they will be turning on the hype machine for Avengers 2 and Ant-Man. "We've just started production and it's going very well with our new director...
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It's almost certainly a rent-a-director though. I don't know any better term to describe any director who would be willing to just jump into an existing project with an existing script and years of pre-production behind it, and get it done within a year, after the original director bailed. That's not to say it would be a bad director or that the film will turn out to be garbage, but it is what it is.
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The link is in the OP
The Hollywood Reporter isn't a rumor site or anything. THR and Variety don't run shit unless they've got verification. They're actually quoting the Marvel press release in that article.
I meant that mostly as a joke.
Also, the what's the deal with the notion in this thread that Marvel films are suddenly crap? I understand that Wright has his cult of fans, but Marvel's films are of consistently great quality. I don't think it's really a plausible narrative to simply say that Marvel was dragging him down. Who knows what happened here.
Jorok Goldblade
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Let the fan-rage over Wright exiting burn off for a few days before announcing the new director. Give the new director a little distance so that they aren't immediately seen as "The guy who took Ant-Man from Wright."
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damn son
We live in the now. Stop bringing up old shit.
I love how whenever anything goes wrong in a situation like this it is always the big business/corporation that is to blame. Big bad Marvel fires their director a year from the movie releasing after letting him work on it for 8 years. Same guy who says he doesn't want his movie to mix with the rest of them.
If you want an official link to the official statement here it is: http://marvel.com/news/movies/2014/5/23/22577/marvel_studios_edgar_wright_statement
Messypandas
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Whats McG up to these days?
Or it could be someone involved in the project for a while too. As far as I can tell, they have (most of) the actors on contracts already, so no way this is getting delayed.
If it was an accomplished director, they would have announced him too as a way of mitigating the bad news.
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tryagainlater
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And all hype gone. Won't bother seeing it now.
The only possible options for that would be Cornish or Pope taking over right? So I guess we'll see.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Even though I already knew it to be true, seeing it actually come from Marvel is just... just... ;_;
Parallax
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holy.... id take this.
Serpentine
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regardless of whoever's at fault, i'm still probably gonna end up siding with Wright because at the end of the day, I'm more interested in his work than Marvel's. so I guess it's kinda irrelevant to me
Well, I mean to each their own, but I just think they're kinda fun at best. But then again i didn't really care for Cap 2 at all, and i guess people liked it, so
Some people really like Edgar's direction. Him leaving this film certainly changes what a lot of people were hoping to see in the final movie.
You make it seem like Joss Whedon, Gunn, Russo Bros, Alan Taylor, and Shane Black had huge blockbuster hits before being hired for Marvel movies. Hell even Jon Favreau had a film that bombed completely (Zathura) before being hired for Iron Man. I don't see why Wright's box office credentials would have anything to do with this.
I'd assume because they wouldn't want those 8 years to have been a shit load of effort for nothing.
At least you can own up to being a blind fanboy. Takes courage.
All of this. Ant-Man has been Wright's baby from day one. Losing the main guy with all the vision and passion for the project sucks.
How does that take balls? What, does Rocket getting a movie before WW somehow upset the natural order of the circle of life?
The only risk with GotG is that it's a new IP to the general, and even that is greatly mitigated by being under the Marvel Studios umbrella.
Seriously. Just fucking cancel it.
Well, I don't know what we really could have expected to get from him given his track record.
Also, given that this was supposed to have started shooting, I'd say that this situation is even more extreme.
it's really not that hard to see the development that lead to this
Ant-Man work started before Iron Man released. Iron Man shaped the Marvel Universe. They have an overall vision now that's entirely connected and it most likely changed some of their intentions with these properties and that eventually didnt fit Wright's vision.
Of course, it's all just guessing but it doesnt seem that far fetched.
George Oscar Bluth II
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The only thing that makes sense (to me) for Marvel to do now is to switch out Ant-Man with their second or third Phase 3 film, so they have more time to work on it.
Oh yea he will be in MCU alright.
You will see his place crushed by thanos in the first 3 mins of A3 to build him up as a threat.
"See, BP is in a movie guys!"
By next summer though? Tall order.
Well Marvel states that the film won't be delayed, so I'm guessing that Wright's screenplay and concepts will be kept. I'm also betting that someone in Wright's circle (Joe Cornish, Simon Pegg) will take over as director.
And LOL @ people bashing Marvel as "cookie cutter" and stifling creativity. When the Russos were hired for Cap 2, everyone bashed them, but they directed some of the most amazing and hard hitting action scenes in the MCU.
And LOL @ people bashing Marvel as "cookie cutter" and stifling creativity. When the Russos were hired for Cap 2, everyone bashed them, but they directed some of the most amazing and hard hitting action scenes in the MCU.
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the fuck.
I also like how everyone is fast to blame and worry about Marvel when they accommodated the fuck out of Wright from the get go and were 100 percent on board for almost a decade. They're clearly not afraid of working outside the box and you have to look no further than giving someone like James Gunn that budget.
If they arrived at this decision I can assure you it wasnt an easy one to make. shit happens.
If they arrived at this decision I can assure you it wasnt an easy one to make. shit happens.
This news actually makes me even more curious about GotG.
Did Gunn have to face pressure from Marvel at some point in production?
It'll be interesting to see how that final product turns out. From the trailers, it looks solid, though.
But man, losing Wright is a big blow. Interested to see what he does now.
Did Gunn have to face pressure from Marvel at some point in production?
It'll be interesting to see how that final product turns out. From the trailers, it looks solid, though.
But man, losing Wright is a big blow. Interested to see what he does now.
the thing where people are hyperdefensive of massive conglomerates is sad to me. as if a multi-billion dollar company needs you to blindly defend it from message board posters. if your response to complaints about a goddamn unstoppable corporate behemoth is the barely-literate "YOURE A HATER" i'm not convinced you're even a conscious human. get woke
I lost about 80% of my interest in the mcu after this, but who knows. That they killed off one of their most anticipated projects blows, and that a film it seemed Wright/Cornish were super passionate about does too. And it would be cool if Marvel would allow one-off films, rather than force every entry to be intricately intertwined. So while this news is terrible, I'm still mildly hopeful. Phase 2 has been a huge improvement over the mostly-shitty Phase 1, with IM3's personal touches especially. Cap 2 was some nuanced fun, and Thor 2 was some alright batshit mania. if Guardians has Gunn's weirdness succeed on a large scale, then Ultron and phase 3 have hope. If Guardians is good but bombs at the BO then I'm sure the MCU will go to shit, they'll be afraid to take further risks and the franchise will become as worthless as ASM or as mediocre as X-men
lol genre doesn't define the singularity of a vision. tarantino makes heist movies. ford made westerns. preminger made thrillers. what a silly thought
I lost about 80% of my interest in the mcu after this, but who knows. That they killed off one of their most anticipated projects blows, and that a film it seemed Wright/Cornish were super passionate about does too. And it would be cool if Marvel would allow one-off films, rather than force every entry to be intricately intertwined. So while this news is terrible, I'm still mildly hopeful. Phase 2 has been a huge improvement over the mostly-shitty Phase 1, with IM3's personal touches especially. Cap 2 was some nuanced fun, and Thor 2 was some alright batshit mania. if Guardians has Gunn's weirdness succeed on a large scale, then Ultron and phase 3 have hope. If Guardians is good but bombs at the BO then I'm sure the MCU will go to shit, they'll be afraid to take further risks and the franchise will become as worthless as ASM or as mediocre as X-men
lol genre doesn't define the singularity of a vision. tarantino makes heist movies. ford made westerns. preminger made thrillers. what a silly thought
George Oscar Bluth II
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Oh...oh yeah. Hm, I'd say let Avengers 2 be the only Marvel Studios film that year, much like how the first Avengers was.
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Respect to Wright for not willing to compromise his artistic integrity just to work on a passion project, has to be a tough choice to make.
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