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Hollywood Reporter: King Arthur could lose $150M for WB and Village Roadshow

Big Nikus

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But it's not the same thing at all. That was a misguided attempt at making some sort of realistic and historical depiction of King Arthur. Arthur is Roman in that movie ffs.

Huh, well yeah ?...
There sure are many historians thinking he was roman (Arturius).
 

overcast

Member
This isn't a surprise but also goddamn that's bad.

WB has that Jungle Book movie coming out too right? Huge budget. Given that it has a lot of talent around it but it sounds like a bomb.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
It isn't particularly surprising that King Arthur flopped in North America. I don't remember the last time a medieval film was successful in this market. The story just doesn't seem to resonate here anymore

So why the hell did WB invest so much money in it?
 

Vice

Member
So why the hell did WB invest so much money in it?
They were able to make Sherlock work with Guy Ritchie. Maybe they figured another British focused series for him would hit gold. But, Charlie Hunam is no post-MCU RDJ and the story of King Arthur isn't too interesting to internationals.
 

Forkball

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Here's a hot take: no one cares about King Arthur. What does the general public know about the mythos? Camelot, Knights of the Round Table, Excalibur... that's it.

Also giving it the woefully generic title LEGEND OF THE SWORD does not put butts in seats.
 

duckroll

Member
Here's a hot take: no one cares about King Arthur. What does the general public know about the mythos? Camelot, Knights of the Round Table, Excalibur... that's it.

Transformers The Last Knight has all of that in it too and it'll murder this film.
 

Kinan

Member
They should have had Uwe Boll directing this movie. At least it would then fall into "so bad that it is good" category.
 
Dunkirk will make 35 million tops.
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AndersK

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They should have had Uwe Boll directing this movie. At least it would then fall into "so bad that it is good" category.

Now that you say it, this gave me some slight 'In the name of the King - a dungeon siege tale'-vibes. Obviously massively more competent and better budgeted, but still.
 
I don't get how some of these movies get green lit with the budgets they are at when your average GAFer can see bomba from a mile away.

I don't think making an Arthurian film is a bad idea, but the budget was about $100 mil too high. Go for a modest success with a lower-budget first film and then increase the scope and budget in the sequel if that's a success.

Charlie Hunnam totally carried lost city of z. This falls on guy Ritchie imo.

Yeah, I really don't think Hunnam not having enough 'star power' is the cause of this. For instance, Russell Crowe wasn't very well known before Gladiator but it was a good film so people still flocked to see it.

I disagree. I think the story would still resonate well enough to allow blockbuster success if a film were handled properly. The issue isn't one of story so much as tone. People don't want a campy or overdriven modernized take on the legend. Get a big name director to helm a film similar in tone and scope to Boorman's Excalibur with a few big stars in the cast and you'll get butts in seats.

I agree; I think the story has a lot of mileage. There's plenty of GoT-esque intrigue and scandal as well, with Lancelot, Guinevere, Morgana, Mordred, etc. They could easily make an interesting trilogy of films, with Arthur becoming king in the first, all the shit with Lancelot & Guinevere in the second and then his story ending in the third film with Morgana and finally dying by his son Mordred's hand at the end. But I suppose a trilogy of films isn't enough for a movie company looking enviously at Marvel any more.
 
The appeal of the Arthur legend is the character interactions and the themes of destiny. The action was never the point. Half the time they either talk through shit or it's just a curbstomp battle (Arthur & Co may or may not have superpowers, depending on the tale). Most of the noteworthy takes on the tale do something new and interesting with the characters and their relationships and their outlooks, and not anything particularly interesting with the battles. Some of them just gloss over them and are better for it. Thinking dragons, swordplay, and magic are the foundation or even the structure of a good Arthur tale is a trap. They're window dressing, and they always have been. This trailer makes it seem like it's the bedrock, and it's going to fail accordingly.
 

KonradLaw

Member
It will be another month till this movie releases in Poland and I don't yet if I will go see it, but Jesus Christ at that it's soundtrack. I doubt anything will match it this year.
 

Piccoro

Member
I think I was literally the only one that liked that King Arthur TV series with Eva Green a few years back, if purely because of Eva Green.

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Google informs me the show was called Camelot.

I loved Camelot. Merlin (Joseph Fiennes) was such a bad ass in those series.

Too bad it was so short.
 
Another King Arthur always seemed like a tough sell, and Guy Ritchie looks a bad fit, but I'd have said that about Sherlock Holmes and that obviously made money. This did feel like everyone knew it was going to bomb as soon as that first trailer hit.

As for the Dunkirk negativity, can a Nolan film be a box office disaster if he gets his usual critical love and a strong marketing campaign. His last couple of films would sound like they're going straight to DVD if you don't see the footage and his name attached.
 

kruis

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I agree; I think the story has a lot of mileage. There's plenty of GoT-esque intrigue and scandal as well, with Lancelot, Guinevere, Morgana, Mordred, etc. They could easily make an interesting trilogy of films, with Arthur becoming king in the first, all the shit with Lancelot & Guinevere in the second and then his story ending in the third film with Morgana and finally dying by his son Mordred's hand at the end. But I suppose a trilogy of films isn't enough for a movie company looking enviously at Marvel any more.

There's a TON of interesting stories to tell in the King Arthur universe with so many interesting characters. The big problem is that King Arthur would work far better as a long running TV series than a movie. Far too many movies these days are dumbed down, shallow blockbuster entertainment for a lowest common denominator worldwide public.
 

CrunchyB

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The last big (well medium) budget King Arthur movie from 2004 was another failed attempt but even that didn't bomb as hard as this. That had Clive Owen, Keira Knieghtly, Ray Winstone, Mads Mikkelson, Ray Stevenson, Hugh Dancy, Ioan Grufford, Joel Edgerton, Peter Skarsgard and was directed by the oscar-winning director Anton Fuqua. And was a pile of shit.

That movie wasn't too bad IMO, it just wasn't anything special.
It had an awesome cast and was scored by Hans Zimmer and it still bombed.
 

Jarnet87

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I would have thought by now struggling studios would have adapted to the strategy of just making comedies and horror movies. Both those types of movies can be done for low budgets and make their money back at the very least. Hollywood execs must be incompetent.
 

jeemer

Member
I was dubious as soon as i heard king arthur and guy ritchie together nevermind charlie hunnam (i've not seen lost city of z to be fair but i have seen some of sons of anarchy, and green street where he somehow managed to sound like an american putting on a cockney accent)

he was on rogan's podcast and came off as sounding very cocksure. according to both that and imdb he's currently in preproduction on an aladdin film. hopefully someone gives that a second thought after this.
 

WillyFive

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Warner Bros is run by people very poor at their jobs. Constant flops, a total disaster of a D.C. Movie Universe, failing to create a replacement for Harry Potter (and now trying to just do more movies in the Harry Potter universe), and total misuse of their properties.

Compare it with Disney's work and it seems like WB is completely incompetent.
 

otapnam

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Guy ritchies schtick is overrated at this point. If it was a down n dirty film this could've worked but with all the cgi supernatural magical elements I'm not sure wtf they were thinking
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
Does anyone know if that is any good? I looks kind of interesting from what little i see of it.

It's a truly, truly terrible film, but you should look up the story of how on earth it got made in the first place, it's fascinating.
 

KeRaSh

Member
"King Arthur is a paint-by-numbers Hollywood disaster — wrong director, wrong cast, wrong script, etc.,"

Huh, and here I thought people loved Jude Law, Charlie Hunnam (I could have sworn Tom Hardy played the lead here but I guess I never really paid that much attention to the trailers...) and Guy Ritchie.

I will probably give this a watch when it's available to rent from Apple TV. I'm a big Jude Law fan and I loved him in The Young Pope so I will probably watch this movie just to see him perform.
 
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