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[PrivateWHudson]

Hey, this thread got me to watch the trailer. I think between DVR and Youtube skips, all I've really seen about it was the name "King Arthur". Honestly, as bad as the trailer is, it looks better than I thought it would. The Sword in the Stone, or Excalibur story is pretty awesome, and I probably would have watched the trailer sooner, but I thought since it's titled King Arthur, it was some random story about something later in his reign.

Anyway, still looks like a direct to streaming CGI movie, but I'll at least keep an eye out for it a year or so from now.

I could get behind a modern day retelling. That would be fun. I always saw The Matrix as a bit Excalibur like...Neo being humble and not thinking he was The One, but when he stopped to fight, and not run, it was like a kid pulling out the sword.

 

[#sorrynotsorry]

I'd watch that dark ages Arthur film in a heartbeat. You guys have already sold me on it. It could be amazing. They could have a scene like a British Alamo for the end.

This is a piece of trash. The trailers were truly awful. Just like Valerian. Anyone in this thread that thinks Valerian is going to be anything other than a catastrophic disaster is fooling only themselves. I know nothing about Valerian except the trailer. So all I know is that it looks like a teen novel adaptation and it's name is ridiculously stupid and sci-fi. The thought of yet another YA novel to movie is sickening, as it is undoubtedly for most people. Doesn't matter if Valerian is or not - that's what the trailers make it look like.

 

[Timu]

Saw the movie like two weeks ago. It was ok. Some of the action scenes are awesome, especially when Arthur uses Excalibur. The giant elephants are cool too. So is the final fight. Had fun with it, doesn't deserve to bomb this hard. But I don't think it should've had a 150m budget either.

It's 175 million budget actually.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

They already did this:

No one particularly cared much for that take.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_King_(novel)

This is a much, much better attempt at the same thing.

Just make this book trilogy.

 

[ReAxion]

just give me like, two of those millions next time. it'll sting less and damage fewer careers.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

A Disney live-action remake of The Sword in the Stone is probably the only way we'll see a medieval blockbuster succeed. There hasn't been a film in the genre to do well versus its budget since A Knight's Tale, and that was a mild success, at best. Even R rated comedies in the genre are huge bombs.

 

[KSweeley]

DAMN!!!!!: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...-arthur-could-lose-150m-falling-sword-1003638

Marking the first major miss of summer 2017, King Arthur also boasts one of the lowest domestic openings of all time for a big-budget major studio title after Monster Trucks, the movie that prompted Paramount to take a $125 million write-down even before debuting to $11 million in January of this year, and Disney's 2011 Mars Needs Moms ($6.9 million).

 

[serenewarfare]

I still think this won't be the biggest bomb of the summer.

I think Valerian will be.

Luc Besson breathes a sigh of relief that he won't have the biggest bomb of the year.

Nah, I think Valerian will still be it.

It reportedly has a $200 million budget.

 

[nailbombxx]

There is a way to do King Arthur correctly. Look at the success of shows like Vikings or The Last Kingdom. In fact, Bernard Cornwell, who wrote the Saxon Stories that the Last Kingdom is based on, has a fantastic Arthurian series as well.

Essentially, stop the medieval stuff and place Arthur where he likely existed (if he existed): as a warlord in the dark ages. Then consider that most of the stories were embellished out the ass and build a believable history of the character and how he managed to keep the fall of Rome and the world he inherited from being completely overrun by the Picts and Scots and Irish and Vikings and and and.

Lol how is that doing King Arthur "correctly"? The spirit of the myth has always been about Arthur and utopian Camelot, the chivalrous Knights of the Round Table saving dames and questing for the Grail, complete with sorcery, etc. A historically "accurate" dramatization without all of the magic, romance and religion is a potential interpretation that could be great in the right hands but its really not the King Arthur we know at that point.

 

[jett]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_King_(novel)

This is a much, much better attempt at the same thing.

Just make this book trilogy.

But it's not the same thing at all. That was a misguided attempt at making some sort of realistic and historical depiction of King Arthur. Arthur is Roman in that movie ffs.

Ritchie's King Arthur is weird as fuck with all sorts of fantastical crap. It might as well take place on another planet.

2004 King Arthur is an awful movie anyway.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Maybe it has something to do that, except for Monty Python and the Holy Grail and maybe Sword in the Stone, every film and tv adaptation of the Arthurian myth has been absolutely shit?

It was kind of like Arthurian Legend meets Smallville, but I really liked Merlin (even though it ends with the heroes kinda' being the villains all along.)

 

[Ahasverus]

I love those quintessential Oscar baits released during the summer season.

It's a 150M+ blockbuster.

I have a feeling the Nolan fandom can only carry a movie so much and this will be Nol-man's first true financial disappointment.

Yes that's the only "deviation" but if you don't think this is Nolan's attempt at an Oscar nomination please tell me what it is. Because all I see is a target-less film that will make less than any other of his movies.

 

[jett]

Yes that's the only "deviation" but if you don't think this is Nolan's attempt at an Oscar nomination please tell me what it is. Because all I see is a target-less film that will make less than any other of his movies.

I think he just wanted to make a movie about Dunkirk. For some reason.

 

[Schlorgan]

I think he just wanted to make a movie about Dunkirk. For some reason.

Titanic happened because Cameron really wanted to do a film about the Titanic.

 

[Oblivion]

As much as I thought Snatch was entertaining, I have to say I've never really been a fan of Guy Ritchie. To me, the dude comes off as having the same problem as Tarantino, a guy who basically likes the smell of his own farts. The kind of guy who's like 37 and still hangs around his old high school. The kind of guy who laughs uncontrollably at the jokes he writes in his screenplay, and also gets an erection from it.

 

[fly high ~ayunite~]

I worked on the production for this for 2 or so months back in 2015 when they were filming in Leavesden, everyone involved from top to bottom knew it was going to be terrible so not surprised. Still morbidly curious to see the final cut.

 

[highrider]

I like the idea of the movie but the trailers look bad. Charlie was pretty amazing in Lost City of Z so I kind of feel bad for him. I've only talked to a few people that have seen it and they enjoyed it, but I'll definitely wait for video. I can't take delight in movies like this failing to perform though because I generally like this genre even if it isn't that good lol.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

As much as I thought Snatch was entertaining, I have to say I've never really been a fan of Guy Ritchie. To me, the dude comes off as having the same problem as Tarantino, a guy who basically likes the smell of his own farts. The kind of guy whose like 37 and still hangs around his old high school. The kind of guy who laughs uncontrollably at the jokes he writes in his screenplay, and also gets an erection from it.

While I agree with you that Guy and QT both love to hear themselves (via their characters) talk, Tarentino's dialogue is at the very least top notch with colorful characters and interesting plots to put them in.

Ritchie, meanwhile, seems to have been remaking the same London Gangster movie over and over again for the past twenty years with the same dialogue and bantor between all the characters, which was fun and fresh at first but now is tired and unfunny.

 

[DeathyBoy]

While I agree with you that Guy and QT both love to hear themselves (via their characters) talk, Tarentino's dialogue is at the very least top notch with colorful characters and interesting plots to put them in.

Ritchie, meanwhile, seems to have been remaking the same London Gangster movie over and over again for the past twenty years with the same dialogue and bantor between all the characters, which was fun and fresh at first but now is tired and unfunny.

QT is smart enough not to make a 175 million dollar film.

 

[KSweeley]

I worked on the production for this for 2 or so months back in 2015 when they were filming in Leavesden, everyone involved from top to bottom knew it was going to be terrible so not surprised. Still morbidly curious to see the final cut.

O.O WTF.... Why was production not stopped if everyone involved at the top knew it was going to be a terrible movie????

 

[harriet the spy]

No idea of the movie is bad/good/hidden gem. But I would normally like this kind of movie and holy hell the trailer was awful.

 

[Doran902]

No idea of the movie is bad/good/hidden gem. But I would normally like this kind of movie and holy hell the trailer was awful.

Agreed, the trailer killed my interest so we didn't go.

 

[shira]

They already did this:

No one particularly cared much for that take.

and again

 

[Sorcerer]

lol. Should have gotten Monty Python to make this movie. Probably could have done something better for a million bucks..

 

[Guzim]

Nolan gotta bail out WB one more time.

2008
Speed Racer:
domestic gross = $43,945,766
production budget = $120 million

2010
Sex and the City 2:
domestic gross = $95,347,692
production budget = $100 million

Splice:
domestic gross = $17,010,170
production budget = $30 million

Jonah Hex:
domestic gross = $10,547,117
production budget = $47 million

2012
Dark Shadows:
domestic gross = $79,727,149
production budget = $150 million

Rock of Ages:
domestic gross = $38,518,613
production budget = $75 million

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I think it's absolutely baffling they we're expecting this do do well in the European market. When I saw the trailer for this film I kept thinking this movie has clearly been made purely for American audiences because no self respecting European person would watch this trash.

 

[onipex]

Trailers made it look like it was made for TV. Plus it came out on mother's day weekend.

 

[diehard]

I think it's absolutely baffling they we're expecting this do do well in the European market. When I saw the trailer for this film I kept thinking this movie has clearly been made purely for American audiences because no self respecting European person would watch this trash.

what does this even mean

 

[Discotheque]

I think he just wanted to make a movie about Dunkirk. For some reason.

whats wrong with that.

why does every blockbuster property have to have aliens or capes in it. its been a long time since we got a big budget hollywood war epic, and the last one was that basura Pearl Harbor.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

what does this even mean

It just looks like a really high budget, dumb as shit action movie which is what I associate with Hollywood these days. I've only seen the trailer though.

 

[DMczaf]

2008
Speed Racer:
domestic gross = $43,945,766
production budget = $120 million

2010
Sex and the City 2:
domestic gross = $95,347,692
production budget = $100 million

Splice:
domestic gross = $17,010,170
production budget = $30 million

Jonah Hex:
domestic gross = $10,547,117
production budget = $47 million

2012
Dark Shadows:
domestic gross = $79,727,149
production budget = $150 million

Rock of Ages:
domestic gross = $38,518,613
production budget = $75 million

It's time.

 

[diehard]

It just looks like a really high budget, dumb as shit action movie which is what I associate with Hollywood these days. I've only seen the trailer though.

So it's like the latest Fast movie that killed it in Europe?

18 of the top 20 movies by ticket sales in Europe last year were from Hollywood, and of the one's that wasn't was just what you described (Taken 3).

 

[milkham]

So it's like the latest Fast movie that killed it in Europe?

18 of the top 20 movies by ticket sales in Europe last year were from Hollywood, and of the one's that wasn't was just what you described (Taken 3).

can't a dude hate on americans without being called on it ?

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

Never heard of it

 

[jett]

whats wrong with that.

why does every blockbuster property have to have aliens or capes in it. its been a long time since we got a big budget hollywood war epic, and the last one was that basura Pearl Harbor.

lol

I'm just not drawn to the subject matter, and somehow I doubt there will be anything in Dunkirk as good as the single-take shot from Atonement that shows off the Dunkirk rescue. So it's like whatever to me.

We had Hacksaw Ridge last year anyway, even if it wasn't all that Hollywood or all that big budget.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

So it's like the latest Fast movie that killed it in Europe?

18 of the top 20 movies by ticket sales in Europe last year were from Hollywood, and of the one's that wasn't was just what you described (Taken 3).

Yes but Fast is well established trash. Who was asking for a King Arthur film?

 

[starchild excalibur]

Bock, along with others, says Hunnam (Sons of Anarchy, Pacific Rim) wasn't enough of a movie star to carry the film. "TV stardom is one thing; for these epics, you need an equally epic lead performance," says Bock.

No - the material wasn't enough of a draw. Stop acting like Johnny Depp (Lone Ranger, Transcendence) or Will Smith (After Earth, Collateral Beauty), or whoever else could have rescued this $175 mil film from box office ruin. I feel like people haven't given a huge shit about King Arthur in quite some time. It's a story everyone knows the basics of, but no one is super dying to watch on screen these days. It was dead in the water the minute they gave it such a high budget.

The best case scenario you could get with King Arthur would be focusing on the drama of the story, fleshing it out with a relatively small budget, and hoping for some Oscar noms out of it. That or very loosely basing it off the story, but setting it in a different setting and time altogether.

Trying to ride on the backs of "Game of Thrones, but on Red Bull!" was idiotic.

2010
Sex and the City 2:
domestic gross = $95,347,692
production budget = $100 million


2012
Dark Shadows:
domestic gross = $79,727,149
production budget = $150 million

God DAMN.

SJP and co got fucking paid in SatC. That's about as bad as the budget for that shitty Sandler film where he plays his own twin.

 

[Raptor]

can't a dude hate on americans without being called on it ?

Lol.

XD

 

[Timu]

I still think this won't be the biggest bomb of the summer.

I think Valerian will be.



Nah, I think Valerian will still be it.

It reportedly has a $200 million budget.

If that flops bigger than King Arthur then that would be insane!!!

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Karmic punishment to Village Roadshow for delaying The Lego Batman Movie to April John Wick 2 to May.

 

[blame space]

Did Jude Law ever climb that high to begin with? I mean, he's obviously a very famous actor...but he's been in a lot of dud films.

Anyone remember this film? Angelina Jolie was in it, I think. She had an eyepatch?

This movie owns

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

No idea how the head of Warner still has his job. They have been floundering for so long now.

 

[massoluk]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1357818

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1352624

Is Koei collaboration still a thing now

 

[highrider]

I think it's absolutely baffling they we're expecting this do do well in the European market. When I saw the trailer for this film I kept thinking this movie has clearly been made purely for American audiences because no self respecting European person would watch this trash.

Well, I mean it was made by European people.

 

[clay_ghost]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1357818

Is Koei collaboration still a thing now

How.

What.

Why.

OK.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Well, I mean it was made by European people.

Yes I'm sure Warner Bros had absolutely no input in the film at all.

 

[andythinkpad]

I still think this won't be the biggest bomb of the summer.

I think Valerian will be.



Nah, I think Valerian will still be it.

It reportedly has a $200 million budget.

I hear you. But Valerian will sell in France, and mayyybeee China.

King Arthur has already speeded pass Gods of Egypt and joined the same league as Monster Trucks lulz.

 

[FreshCakes]

No worries, Nolan is their lord and savior.

 

[KHlover]

I agree with this. Nobody wants to watch Robin Hood movie either. I don't know why it is since Game of Thrones is super popular.

Obviously a TV series is better for that kind of material. GoT but with 80% less runtime would make for a terrible adaptation.

 

[Switch Back 9]

I think it's absolutely baffling they we're expecting this do do well in the European market. When I saw the trailer for this film I kept thinking this movie has clearly been made purely for American audiences because no self respecting European person would watch this trash.

Mmhmmmm.

Yes but Fast is well established trash. Who was asking for a King Arthur film?

Ohhhhh I see. So you intellectual Europeans only watch established trash. Not this nouveau riche trash. God I wish I was as cultured and civilized as you guys.