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Hollywood Reporter: King Arthur could lose $150M for WB and Village Roadshow

Sapiens

Member
Charlie Hunnam ain't coming back from this is he

He'll be cheap to get once they make the Netflix reunion of undeclared where the KIDS of the undeclared are the next generation of undeclareees.

Yes, that's how long ago undeclared came out.
 

Slayven

Member
the one guy from son of anarchy who also starred in pacific rim with idris is pretty much it

Hollywood needs to stop throwing these tv people into the deep end, it's easy to look good when you only have to carry 2-5 minutes of a hour long show.
 
RatPac-Dune Entertainment — the film financing entity launched in 2013 by Steve Mnuchin (who is now U.S. Treasury secretary), James Packer and filmmaker Brett Ratner — also has a stake in the movie.

What a comforting sentence for Americans.
 

Dalek

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LOL
 

UCBooties

Member
I just went to watch the final Trailer for King Arthur. Despite the poor reviews and abysmal box office I was willing to give this movie the benefit of the doubt. I like Guy Ritchie and I'm always down for neat turns on established concepts. King Arthur as a fast-fingered, fast-talking street tough? Why not?

What a terrible fucking trailer. Just nonsensical action beats punctuated by terrible dialogue. Whatever strengths this movie had (if any) this trailer definitely did not lean into them. Guess I'll give it a miss and go see Alien: Covenant instead.
 

Lima

Member
lol at people throwing shades at Hunnam. As if a better actor would have saved this mess. Directing, writing and editing this was the main problem with it. All things you can pin on Richie.
 

Staccat0

Fail out bailed
lol at people throwing shades at Hunnam. As if a better actor would have saved this mess. Directing, writing and editing this was the main problem with it. All things you can pin on Richie.

I mean, I think the script (maybe moreso the story than the specific dialogue) and marketing doomed it.
 

DMczaf

Member
Universal is greenlighting The Three Musketeers starring Jai Courtney, Charlie Hunnam, Armie Hammer, Scott Eastwood, and Taylor Kitsch
 

kswiston

Member
I think that "no one cares about King Arthur" is way too simplistic.

No one cares about Tarzan either, and that still made over $125M domestic and $350M worldwide last year (granted, the budget was too high there as well). This film is heading for less than a third of that domestic, and maybe half of that worldwide.

It's not just that "No one cares about King Arthur". It's that nothing in this film was really working for audiences. The right take on King Arthur, with a budget that was $50-75M lower, could have probably done well.
 
Charlie Hunnam ain't coming back from this is he
He's a white man in Hollywood. It's going to take a lot more than one poor action movie to take him down.

It needs to be at least 23 poor action movies.
I think that "no one cares about King Arthur" is way too simplistic.

No one cares about Tarzan either, and that still made over $125M domestic and $350M worldwide last year (granted, the budget was too high there as well). This film is heading for less than a third of that domestic, and maybe half of that worldwide.

It's not just that "No one cares about King Arthur". It's that nothing in this film was really working for audiences. The right take on King Arthur, with a budget that was $50-75M lower, could have probably done well.
Aliens vs Predator vs King Arthur.
 

Ridley327

Member
So I had no idea Monster Trucks was so expensive. How the hell do you greenlight that much money for this concept that it is even possible to lose over $100 million on the project?

At least Guy Ritchie King Arthur movie sounds like it could be something really cool on paper that makes bank.

One of the big problems with Monster Trucks was they had to redo all of the special effects in the film after children in test audiences screamed at horror at the original incarnation of the alien.

What I wouldn't give to see the original footage and see just how badly they missed the mark.
 

Donos

Member
You can insert The Mummy in there as well. It'll probably do better than King Arthur but no one is really asking for a Mummy reboot.
You can say what you want but i was really surprised from the trailer. And i thought "mummy reboot? LulZ" too. In the right timespot and with the right marketing i see this rather being successful than a bomb.
 

pr0cs

Member
Them saying no one in North America is interested in seeing medieval setting movies is beyond stupid. People don't want to see ham fisted shitty story movies with uninspired casting... Period has nothing to do with it
 

3rdman

Member
"It isn't particularly surprising that King Arthur flopped in North America. I don't remember the last time a medieval film was successful in this market. The story just doesn't seem to resonate here anymore, and someone tries to resurrect it seemingly every five to 10 years," says Wall Street analyst Eric Handler of MKM Partners. "What I did find surprising was the weak numbers internationally, particularly in Europe."

Hey dipshit analyst...the movie bombed because they turned a well known legend and story into a cheap, seizure-inducing, piece of shit movie.
 
There is a way to do King Arthur correctly. Look at the success of shows like Vikings or The Last Kingdom. In fact, Bernard Cornwell, who wrote the Saxon Stories that the Last Kingdom is based on, has a fantastic Arthurian series as well.

Essentially, stop the medieval stuff and place Arthur where he likely existed (if he existed): as a warlord in the dark ages. Then consider that most of the stories were embellished out the ass and build a believable history of the character and how he managed to keep the fall of Rome and the world he inherited from being completely overrun by the Picts and Scots and Irish and Vikings and and and.
 

3rdman

Member
There is a way to do King Arthur correctly. Look at the success of shows like Vikings or The Last Kingdom. In fact, Bernard Cornwell, who wrote the Saxon Stories that the Last Kingdom is based on, has a fantastic Arthurian series as well.

Essentially, stop the medieval stuff and place Arthur where he likely existed (if he existed): as a warlord in the dark ages. Then consider that most of the stories were embellished out the ass and build a believable history of the character and how he managed to keep the fall of Rome and the world he inherited from being completely overrun by the Picts and Scots and Irish and Vikings and and and.

As one from an older generation, Excalibur doesn't get enough love...such a good version and still holds up.
 
Why do they keep making Arthur movies? Same question for Tarzan, King Kong, Peter Pan and Wizard of Oz.

The subtext and premise of those stories has been co-opted so many times by modern movies that they've become irrelevant.
 

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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
There is a way to do King Arthur correctly. Look at the success of shows like Vikings or The Last Kingdom. In fact, Bernard Cornwell, who wrote the Saxon Stories that the Last Kingdom is based on, has a fantastic Arthurian series as well.

Essentially, stop the medieval stuff and place Arthur where he likely existed (if he existed): as a warlord in the dark ages. Then consider that most of the stories were embellished out the ass and build a believable history of the character and how he managed to keep the fall of Rome and the world he inherited from being completely overrun by the Picts and Scots and Irish and Vikings and and and.

Jack Whyte and Mary Stewart need some love in this respect as well.

I could not agree more with your second paragraph. I've been reading Arthurian books since I was a kid and the very best ones take place WAY before all this Knight in Shining Armour crap. It's brutal, barbaric, uncivilized post-Rome Britain. Give me something true to the era, make it realistic and as historically accurate as possible (given the material) and that would amazing.
 

Ridley327

Member
There is a way to do King Arthur correctly. Look at the success of shows like Vikings or The Last Kingdom. In fact, Bernard Cornwell, who wrote the Saxon Stories that the Last Kingdom is based on, has a fantastic Arthurian series as well.

Essentially, stop the medieval stuff and place Arthur where he likely existed (if he existed): as a warlord in the dark ages. Then consider that most of the stories were embellished out the ass and build a believable history of the character and how he managed to keep the fall of Rome and the world he inherited from being completely overrun by the Picts and Scots and Irish and Vikings and and and.

They already did this:

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No one particularly cared much for that take.
 

jett

D-Member
Dunkirk was never poised to be a blockbuster, it's the quintessential Oscar bait.

I love those quintessential Oscar baits released during the summer season.

It's a 150M+ blockbuster.

I have a feeling the Nolan fandom can only carry a movie so much and this will be Nol-man's first true financial disappointment.
 

kswiston

Member
I love those quintessential Oscar baits released during the summer season.

It's a 150M+ blockbuster.

I have a feeling the Nolan fandom can only carry a movie so much and this will be Nol-man's first true financial disappointment.

Dunkirk will be interesting to watch at the box office.

Nolan's contract for the film will make it even harder to recoup a large budget. He's getting $20M up front + 20% of the WW gross.
 
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