Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores - How To Prepare

Tal Shiar Agent said:
No shit, its DLC.

The expectation that devs constantly reinvent the wheel is killing gaming.
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They said it was being made for ps5 only so they could achieve their grand vision for the DLC. They are the ones who upped the expectations with their marketing. Not me.

And I'd think that the stagnantion of this industry is due toa lack of new ideas and innovation, not the other way around but what do i know.
 
Tal Shiar Agent said:
No shit, its DLC.

The expectation that devs constantly reinvent the wheel is killing gaming.
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The wheel doesn't have to be reinvented to anticipate a tangible upgrade from a cross gen to current gen focused project. Slimy's "Concern" is unfounded as is often the case with him, but I do think people are lowballing expectations.
 
SlimySnake said:
They said it was being made for ps5 only so they could achieve their grand vision for the DLC. They are the ones who upped the expectations with their marketing. Not me.

And I'd think that the stagnantion of this industry is due toa lack of new ideas and innovation, not the other way around but what do i know.
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They said there's a battle that wasn't possible on PS4, so they made it PS5 only.

That does not mean that they'll change the entire DLC. It will, of course, be more of the same. Otherwise, what happens to people who play the game + the DLC for the first time? The base game missions will look and play differently, and the DLC missions will look and play differently?
 
Heisenberg007 said:
They said there's a battle that wasn't possible on PS4, so they made it PS5 only.

That does not mean that they'll change the entire DLC. It will, of course, be more of the same. Otherwise, what happens to people who play the game + the DLC for the first time? The base game missions will look and play differently, and the DLC missions will look and play differently?
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they couldve and shouldve made it a stand alone DLC. no idea why they felt the need to tie it to the base game.
 
I know how I am going to prepare....

entertainment fuck off GIF by Desus & Mero
 
Some of you guys argue over the dumbest shit (see: make up narratives) and it makes me wonder if you even play games with all the hatred, concern, contrarianism, etc., you carry for every damned thing in this hobby.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Some of you guys argue over the dumbest shit (see: make up narratives) and it makes me wonder if you even play games with all the hatred, concern, contrarianism, etc., you carry for every damned thing in this hobby.
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If you are letting yourself get triggered by a single innocuous post like this then its time reevaluate your life's choices. You are taking video games and forums way too seriously. Take a break.

SlimySnake said:
Why wont they show actual footage from the DLC?

i have a feeling its going to be more of the same.
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SlimySnake said:
If you are letting yourself get triggered by a single innocuous post like this then its time reevaluate your life's choices. You are taking video games and forums way too seriously. Take a break.
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Oh the irony. You constantly derail threads around your contrarianism you pull from your ass with almost every single game. "Innocuous tho"

I am chill, just pointing out the obvious.
 
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Captain Toad said:
Why wouldn't it be?
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Our creative vision for the Burning Shores is an ambitious expansion which will take Aloy to the ruins of Los Angeles. It's an overgrown and fractured city that can be fully explored via the water and flying on the back of a Sunwing. A massive machine threat lurks in its shadows – a huge challenge that Aloy must overcome by using all of her skills and abilities. To achieve this grand vision technically and creatively, we've made the difficult decision to focus all our efforts on making an incredible experience exclusively for the PlayStation 5 console.
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this was a huge point of discussion here on gaf when it was first announced as a PS5 only title. We assumed that they would add stuff they couldnt do on PS4 like faster flying, combat on flying mounts, way better foliage and way bigger fights.

There was a poll just a few weeks ago where over half of the people said this DLC was going to be a technical marvel and a generation defining moment. There are big expectations for this DLC.

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DeepEnigma said:
Oh the irony. You constantly derail threads around your contrarianism you pull from your ass with almost every single game. "Innocuous tho"

I am chill, just pointing out the obvious.
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Which part of that post you got triggered by derailed the thread?

This
Why wont they show actual footage from the DLC?
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or this?

i have a feeling its going to be more of the same.
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If stuff like this is upsetting you, you can ignore it. The fact that you chase me from thread to thread getting triggered enough to bitch about tells me you're not chill. Put me on ignore and move on with your life.

I dont like what plenty of other posters post here. I dont chase them from thread to thread constantly bitching about their posting habits.
 
SlimySnake said:
they couldve and shouldve made it a stand alone DLC. no idea why they felt the need to tie it to the base game.
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That ... wouldn't be the DLC then.

It would be a standalone game, and this DLC might not be big enough to warrant a standalone game. It'd also take 1-2 years more to release because of the significant upgrades, which would have then delayed Horizon 3.

I'm sure people would have complained about that and how they should have just made Burning Shores a DLC and shifted to Horizon 3 as soon as possible for a true and more ambitious current-gen experience.
 
SlimySnake said:
this was a huge point of discussion here on gaf when it was first announced as a PS5 only title. We assumed that they would add stuff they couldnt do on PS4 like faster flying, combat on flying mounts, way better foliage and way bigger fights.

There was a poll just a few weeks ago where over half of the people said this DLC was going to be a technical marvel and a generation defining moment. There are big expectations for this DLC.

zZV7eSZ.jpg



Which part of that post you got triggered by derailed the thread?

This

or this?


If stuff like this is upsetting you, you can ignore it. The fact that you chase me from thread to thread getting triggered enough to bitch about tells me you're not chill. Put me on ignore and move on with your life.

I dont like what plenty of other posters post here. I dont chase them from thread to thread constantly bitching about their posting habits.
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You can't "just ignore" when 30%-50% of the comments are quoting you and with your contrarian bait. Makes threads unreadable. 🤡

Heisenberg007 said:
That ... wouldn't be the DLC then.

It would be a standalone game, and this DLC might not be big enough to warrant a standalone game. It'd also take 1-2 years more to release because of the significant upgrades, which would have then delayed Horizon 3.

I'm sure people would have complained about that and how they should have just made Burning Shores a DLC and shifted to Horizon 3 as soon as possible for a true and more ambitious current-gen experience.
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There would have been complaining "too soon" for Horizon 3 then. It never ends.
Happy Joaquin Phoenix GIF
 
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SlimySnake said:
They said it was being made for ps5 only so they could achieve their grand vision for the DLC. They are the ones who upped the expectations with their marketing. Not me.

And I'd think that the stagnantion of this industry is due toa lack of new ideas and innovation, not the other way around but what do i know.
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What do you expect from a DLC that was made in a year? To reinvent the wheel in any way?
You may get less fog, some better assets, probably one setpiece and an enemy we wouldn't be able to see on PS4 and that's it.

A DLC not coming out on PS4 just means "our vision doesn't work on a 10 year old hardware that was already outdated when released in 2013".

It you believe on marketing talk in 2023, that's on you. Specially from a DLC release.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
That ... wouldn't be the DLC then.

It would be a standalone game, and this DLC might not be big enough to warrant a standalone game. It'd also take 1-2 years more to release because of the significant upgrades, which would have then delayed Horizon 3.

I'm sure people would have complained about that and how they should have just made Burning Shores a DLC and shifted to Horizon 3 as soon as possible for a true and more ambitious current-gen experience.
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There are plenty of examples of stand alone DLCs. Far Cry series does this all the time. Ghost of Tsushima recently spun off their MP mode as standalone product. Infamous First Light, TLOU Left Behind were both standalone.

Regardless, it doesnt matter if its standalone or not. We assumed it was going to be a standalone DLC because of their marketing. See above poll. I dont know why you're all pretending we didnt expect a lot from this DLC when just months ago we were all super excited over it being PS5 only.

I mean you posted this in thead about how PS5 is moving away from cross gen. YOU wanted this to be next gen only and push the PS5. I figured we all assumed it would at least try to do SOMETHING different from the base game.

Heisenberg007 said:
I'm unreasonably hyped for Horizon Burning Shores.

Flying combat + Metal Devil = 🔥
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I mean just look at the announce thread and tell if people didnt expect greatness from it after learning it was PS5 only.

 
SlimySnake said:
they couldve and shouldve made it a stand alone DLC. no idea why they felt the need to tie it to the base game.
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But why would someone want to play DLC before playing the base?

Also Horizon FB is free right now with PS+ Extra so if someone is interested in this I doubt they would have issues with needing the base game.
 
SlimySnake said:
There was a poll just a few weeks ago where over half of the people said this DLC was going to be a technical marvel and a generation defining moment. There are big expectations for this DLC.
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Hey! That's my poll! I'm very proud of my poll and the engagement it's attracted. I'm also very proud of my pole and the engagement it's attracted.

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SlimySnake said:
this was a huge point of discussion here on gaf when it was first announced as a PS5 only title. We assumed that they would add stuff they couldnt do on PS4 like faster flying, combat on flying mounts, way better foliage and way bigger fights.

There was a poll just a few weeks ago where over half of the people said this DLC was going to be a technical marvel and a generation defining moment. There are big expectations for this DLC.

zZV7eSZ.jpg



Which part of that post you got triggered by derailed the thread?

This

or this?


If stuff like this is upsetting you, you can ignore it. The fact that you chase me from thread to thread getting triggered enough to bitch about tells me you're not chill. Put me on ignore and move on with your life.

I dont like what plenty of other posters post here. I dont chase them from thread to thread constantly bitching about their posting habits.
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Good grief. You're either new to the concept of what DLC is, or you know what it is, but are trying to set yourself up for a, "I KNEW this would play similar to the base game! What a ripoff!" moment, as if you're some sort of Nostradamus.
 
That they're only putting it out on the PS5 makes me assume there's a very specific reason beyond some vague tinfoil hat idea that hurts them financially.
 
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SlimySnake said:
There are plenty of examples of stand alone DLCs. Far Cry series does this all the time. Ghost of Tsushima recently spun off their MP mode as standalone product. Infamous First Light, TLOU Left Behind were both standalone.

Regardless, it doesnt matter if its standalone or not. We assumed it was going to be a standalone DLC because of their marketing. See above poll. I dont know why you're all pretending we didnt expect a lot from this DLC when just months ago we were all super excited over it being PS5 only.

I mean you posted this in thead about how PS5 is moving away from cross gen. YOU wanted this to be next gen only and push the PS5. I figured we all assumed it would at least try to do SOMETHING different from the base game.



I mean just look at the announce thread and tell if people didnt expect greatness from it after learning it was PS5 only.

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Yeah, I'm hyped because I get to fight the Metal Devil, which I wanted to do the moment I laid eyes on that dormant machine in Horizon Zero Dawn in 2017 lol.

I wasn't hyped thinking that the DLC that's releasing within 14 months of the original game release is going to reinvent the wheel and give something substantially different from the base game -- which, again, doesn't make sense because the complete edition would then have 2 distinct experiences and that'd be jarring.
 
Punished Miku said:
NEOGAF: How to prepare H2FW DLC

1. Lower expectations
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No one's asking here to lower expectations but to have realistic expectations.

It's a DLC, not a sequel. So it'll be in line with the base game, Horizon Forbidden West, which is already the best-looking open-world game out there, even after 12 months of release.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
No one's asking here to lower expectations but to have realistic expectations.

It's a DLC, not a sequel. So it'll be in line with the base game, Horizon Forbidden West, which is already the best-looking open-world game out there, even after 12 months of release.
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"You miss 100% of the jokes you don't tell."
- Wayne Gretzky
 
DeepEnigma said:
Some of you guys argue over the dumbest shit (see: make up narratives) and it makes me wonder if you even play games with all the hatred, concern, contrarianism, etc., you carry for every damned thing in this hobby.
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I often question it as well. Usually the same posters with troll takes.
 
haha as someone who hasn't played the second game (yet) that thumbnail is a little surprising. Does she go to fucking Atlantis or something?
 
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