Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores - How To Prepare

Grizzled Ghost said:
haha as someone who hasn't played the second game (yet) that thumbnail is a little surprising. Does she go to fucking Atlantis or something?
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The Atlantis? She probably already went past there in Dunehollow...

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CamHostage said:
The Atlantis? She probably already went past there in Dunehollow...

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:LOL: wtf. I guess California (Or Vegas I suppose?) is handling the apocalypse a bit better than Colorado did, huh? I was gonna wait for PC but maybe I'll actually pick this one up on PS5 after all. I'm intrigued.
 
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Pharaoh 117 said:
Did they show a shot of the ending of the game?
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They sure did. But without context it's impossible to interpret anything from it.

Edit: P Pharaoh 117 Oh, crap I take that back. There are two scenes from the ending; the first one is harmless, but the second one directly after is a completely boneheaded move on their part.
 
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Tiago Rodrigues said:
A DLC not coming out on PS4 just means "our vision doesn't work on a 10 year old hardware that was already outdated when released in 2013".
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More than that even, I would say it means "Phew! We were going to have to try to make this extra content for both platforms we launched on, but that was going to be even harder to pull off than before with some of the stuff we're trying here, and luckily sales numbers say we don't have to."

SlimySnake said:
They said it was being made for ps5 only so they could achieve their grand vision for the DLC. They are the ones who upped the expectations with their marketing. Not me...

Regardless, it doesnt matter if its standalone or not. We assumed it was going to be a standalone DLC because of their marketing. See above poll. I dont know why you're all pretending we didnt expect a lot from this DLC when just months ago we were all super excited over it being PS5 only.
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They announced it by showing it. Just flyovers, sure, not combat and exploration play, but even so, that was the DLC and its game engine in motion.

And you were there. (And if you go back and read your own posts, you were a lot more realistic about what this DLC at the time after seeing it than you are now.) You're talking about fan expectations and marketing, as if tons of posts and rumors have flown about what Burning Shores is, but we saw that first day what it generally is and we've read some boilerplate description text and one interview what it generally is. Most of what these expectations you say "we were all super excited over" has been made up in our own heads and in forum chatter unrelated to what was actually shown or described by the company.

It'll be cool to see what Burning Shores does that's beyond what we have been told and have seen, but it'll primarily be what we have been told and have seen.
 
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MatrixReloaded101 said:
But why would someone want to play DLC before playing the base?

Also Horizon FB is free right now with PS+ Extra so if someone is interested in this I doubt they would have issues with needing the base game.
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When Horizon came out on Steam, I found myself spending my time in the DLC areas first because though tougher, you could level up very quickly. Finished the DLC first then the main game.
 
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Should I wait for the DLC to come out before I start the main game?

I remember in Zero Dawn the DLC had some neat quality of life improvements for the main game. Is this the case here as well?
 
CamHostage said:
More than that even, I would say it means "Phew! We were going to have to try to make this extra content for both platforms we launched on, but that was going to be even harder to pull off than before with some of the stuff we're trying here, and luckily sales numbers say we don't have to."



They announced it by showing it. Just flyovers, sure, not combat and exploration play, but even so, that was the DLC and its game engine in motion.

And you were there. (And if you go back and read your own posts, you were a lot more realistic about what this DLC at the time after seeing it than you are now.) You're talking about fan expectations and marketing, as if tons of posts and rumors have flown about what Burning Shores is, but we saw that first day what it generally is and we've read some boilerplate description text and one interview what it generally is. Most of what these expectations you say "we were all super excited over" has been made up in our own heads and in forum chatter unrelated to what was actually shown or described by the company.

It'll be cool to see what Burning Shores does that's beyond what we have been told and have seen, but it'll primarily be what we have been told and have seen.
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well yeah. Again, I dont see the difference between what I said then and what im saying now.... i.e., it will be more of the same.

If you read through the exchange, you will see other gaffers try and hype me up. And thats what Im saying, we thought this was being made PS5 only so that they could push the PS5.

CamHostage said:
The monster at the end is cool, and the clouds are fluffy; otherwise, the engine seems pretty much the same so far. (And its destruction at the end is probably CG/prerigged.) Will be interesting to see where they push things on this after cutting off last-gen support, or if they are just streamlining to get this out.
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SlimySnake said:
its probably the latter, but its exciting nonetheless. they might be able to do things they couldnt do on the PS4.

The foliage looks the same which is disappointing but the game looks better than 99% of the games at the show.
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kyliethicc said:
"Our creative vision for the Burning Shores is an ambitious expansion which will take Aloy to the ruins of Los Angeles. It's an overgrown and fractured city that can be fully explored via the water and flying on the back of a Sunwing. A massive machine threat lurks in its shadows – a huge challenge that Aloy must overcome by using all of her skills and abilities."
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SlimySnake said:
Yeah, I saw that, but its just PR.

Game sales were 70-30 split between the PS5 and PS4 despite PS5 version being free. I bet 90% of the players were on PS4 and they were like fuck it.

Will need to see more. The big strider fight finally happening could be a sign its PS5 only. If they let us fly in the clouds then that could also be a PS5 SSD feature.
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First you all hype me up and then when i say its more of the same you get upset at me not being sufficiently hyped up and being a contrarian for the sake of being negative. i cant win lol

P.S notice how i said will need to see more. We still havent seen anything since. this is their third dlc related trailer/blog post in the last week or so, and no footage yet. show me the good stuff. why is this considered being negative?
 
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DeepEnigma said:
In the years and years of gaming, you have nobody to blame but yourself when it comes to "hype."

Nice persona, however.
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so you're upset when Im hyped up and all positive and even more upset when im bummed that there is nothing to be hyped about/be negative. i cant win with you. you sound like my wife. lol Is there anything i can do to make you happy!
 
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SlimySnake said:
so you're upset when Im hyped up and all positive and even more upset when im bummed that there is nothing to be hyped about/be negative. i cant win with you. you sound like my wife. lol Is there anything i can do to make you happy!
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I'm not upset at all. Just pointing out the obvious.

Blaming others for you getting "hyped" in current year after decades of gaming... c'mon, son!
 
SlimySnake said:
If you read through the exchange, you will see other gaffers try and hype me up.
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Heh, I did read back through a lot of that exchange and feel like it was a rare instance where you were trying to hype up other gaffers. (Unless i oversold it by saying, "the clouds are fluffy," oops?) Bad time for a rare case of optimism, I guess...

Most of the posts were otherwise, "Looks nice. No PS4? Good, that thing is old. Be nice if it does something cool with PS5," and that's basically where we are now still. It'll be the same baseline, but as with Frozen Wilds and especially with the focus on PS5, it'll add some extra oomph on top (some of which we saw in the trailer and read about in descriptions.) But, you know, "oomph" not "ta-dah!!"
 
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SlimySnake said:
They said it was being made for ps5 only so they could achieve their grand vision for the DLC. They are the ones who upped the expectations with their marketing. Not me.

And I'd think that the stagnantion of this industry is due toa lack of new ideas and innovation, not the other way around but what do i know.
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Horus fight just isn't possible to do on ps4, don't think too hard about it
 
DeepEnigma said:
SlimySnake SlimySnake this true?
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They are both 7/10 games. For different reasons, I liked the combat in Gotham Knights a lot more, but the visuals, story and open world are very bland in comparison.

i HATE the combat in HFW. They ruined arguably the best open world combat system in a PS4 game last gen. The only reason why im not rating it below a 7 (Good) is because i quite liked the story and the visuals are the best ever.
 
BacklashWave534 said:
Won't be the same without him. I hope they do a tribute to him next game.
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I imagine they will have a in memory of at the start of the DLC. Maybe for the next mainline Horizon if they have a few sentences from previous sessions to cobble together and work out a scenario where Sylens get a hero's death.
 
SlimySnake said:
well yeah. Again, I dont see the difference between what I said then and what im saying now.... i.e., it will be more of the same.

If you read through the exchange, you will see other gaffers try and hype me up. And thats what Im saying, we thought this was being made PS5 only so that they could push the PS5.









First you all hype me up and then when i say its more of the same you get upset at me not being sufficiently hyped up and being a contrarian for the sake of being negative. i cant win lol

P.S notice how i said will need to see more. We still havent seen anything since. this is their third dlc related trailer/blog post in the last week or so, and no footage yet. show me the good stuff. why is this considered being negative?
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who are you talking to
 
SlimySnake SlimySnake is one of my favorite posters. This is literally all you need to do to be a great poster.
1. Have interesting opinions.
2. Be honest about it
3. Argue the topic and not insult others

Thats it. He blows past 70% of the posters here who either focus only on insults or dont actually have detailed or interesting opinions about games. Who cares if you agree with every opinion he has? I dont. Talk to him about it. He responds just fine.
 
Punished Miku said:
SlimySnake SlimySnake is one of my favorite posters. This is literally all you need to do to be a great poster.
1. Have interesting opinions.
2. Be honest about it
3. Argue the topic and not insult others

Thats it. He blows past 70% of the posters here who either focus only on insults or dont actually have detailed or interesting opinions about games. Who cares if you agree with every opinion he has? I dont. Talk to him about it. He responds just fine.
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Uh... right.

I caught him lying about one of the posts that I made and he wasn't willing to admit that he was wrong.
 
Well I need to go ahead and finish up DMC5:SE because im like at 3% on HFW lol. I had planned on saying "fuck it" and jump right into Burning Shores instead but that's not possible seeing that I need to beat the base game.
 
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I gotta admit it does seem a little strange that Sony is not showing off any gameplay when the release is only a few weeks away, even putting up pre-orders. I trust Guerilla to put out a quality product but nevertheless, it's strange.
 
I think I will have to prepare by actually downloading and starting the original.
Punished Miku said:
I frequently see people dog pile him just fot having a critical opinion and it just baffles me. I dont get it. Had to point out he's one of the better posters here.
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imagine trailer like that for ringed city.
I will be picking this up despite kind loathing forbidden west. I love how it looks and I love the world
 
Tal Shiar Agent said:
No shit, its DLC.

The expectation that devs constantly reinvent the wheel is killing gaming.
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Referring to Horizon Forbidden West as a wheel is an affront to geometric shapes everywhere.

The DLC needed to do something different to grab the attention of a lot of bored owners.

The finish rate on that game has got to be abysmal.
 
FF7 DLC was nicely upgraded, I expect the same from this DLC. Things like LOD and shadows, lighting and improved textures vs the base game.
 
Punished Miku said:
SlimySnake SlimySnake is one of my favorite posters. This is literally all you need to do to be a great poster.
1. Have interesting opinions.
2. Be honest about it
3. Argue the topic and not insult others

Thats it. He blows past 70% of the posters here who either focus only on insults or dont actually have detailed or interesting opinions about games. Who cares if you agree with every opinion he has? I dont. Talk to him about it. He responds just fine.
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And aside from all of that, he's the derail champ.
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Grizzled Ghost said:
:LOL: wtf. I guess California (Or Vegas I suppose?) is handling the apocalypse a bit better than Colorado did, huh?
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Don't read more or check, it's nice to see it first time by playing, I enjoyed it :)

Just info of the name of the place in real world and if it's really Atlantis in the thumbnail
a) It is indeed Vegas and b) no,it's not Atlantis, but let's leave it at that :D
 
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Punished Miku said:
He usually just says his opinion, and then the dogpile of offended people is the derail. But let's just drop it. Heaven forbid I try to say something positive about someone ever again.
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The trick is to ignore and move on. You really cant expect everyone to like you. Appreciate the kind words but for every comment I get about being negative, derailing, concern trolling, and bitching, i get 10 likes that tells me im not really that crazy or saying shit completely out of the norm. Besides, Half of the people who leave LOL reactions and get triggered by my posts are now permabanned. I literally started keeping track a few months ago because it was hilarious to see everyone on my ignore list get permabanned for stuff they were accusing me of doing. At the end of the day, I have some 55k likes on gaf, 30 likes on my first two posts in this thread alone. Really doubt everyone here hates me. I love that I can be myself here on gaf, but I also understand my opinions can be controversial and they will trigger people. Those people also get to express their disapproval which is fine. That's why gaf is way better than era and reddit. People are allowed to express themselves.
 
SlimySnake said:
but for every comment I get about being negative, derailing, concern trolling, and bitching, i get 10 likes that tells me im not really that crazy or saying shit completely out of the norm.
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Misery loves company, who knew?

Nobody hates you, that would be weird, since they don't know you. That would be pure projection on their part.
 
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