Horizon Zero Dawn livestream

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
What about the gameplay looks average?

systematized crafting is purely for our ease of access.

What do you mean the enemie look less cool than they should?



Are you interested in any open world games because almost all of them have taken ideas from another. What kind of gameplay mechanics interest you in an open world RPG?
I think I just have grown out of the genre honestly. Like I really want to be excited for it, but it just seems like I have played this type of game already. And to clarify the enemies remark, I guess I had different expectations for dinosaur robots.

If all you want is something totally new (Which IMO Horizon is anyway), you won't be playing much at all. The setting and idea, robot machines in an open world is unique. People who played the game for 4 hours say the opposite, they know what it feels like to play the game.

I really don't play video games much anymore, as they don't really grab me like they used to. I only played one game last year (Overwatch), and like I responded above, the setting sounds interesting as well as the idea itself, however I don't think I like the execution of it.
 
I think I just have grown out of the genre honestly. Like I really want to be excited for it, but it just seems like I have played this type of game already. And to clarify the enemies remark, I guess I had different expectations for dinosaur robots.



I really don't play video games much anymore, as they don't really grab me like they used to. I only played one game last year (Overwatch), and like I responded above, the setting sounds interesting as well as the idea itself, however I don't think I like the execution of it.

You don't know near enough to say you don't like the execution of it yet...... We have seen but a fraction of the game, and like I said, people who played for 4 hours say otherwise.

Please stop entertaining this Waffle dude, Please.

Now that I think about it, he was in another Horizon thread doing this too....
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
The game looks beautiful but I too really hope that there is more melee combat in the game, I just far prefer that to shooting a bow. I may still end up loving it regardless.

You are fighting dinosaurs though, even if you were Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime you wouldn't last long in a melee fight.

Ranged is a necessity.
 
From what I saw, only the tools and potions could be set to dynamic or always on. Everything else could be switched off completely, makes sense really if you're in combat...need to see your potion and tools options if in a spot of trouble.
 
Custom HUD options ;)

HZDcustomHUD.jpg

Hey, just like Ubi games!

Seriously though, for all the shit Ubi get for icons, icons everywhere, their games (well, the more recent Far Cry games at least) have extensive HUD customisation options. Another thing which I hope Guerilla borrow off them is the ability to switch defeated outposts back on.
 
Whoever does the OT for Horizon has to put all the gifs with explanations in it. So many people who can't or won't see the great little details. I dont know why but it seems like a lot of folks are seeing this game and say "same same" and don't have a closer look which is a shame.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
You don't know near enough to say you don't like the execution of it yet...... We have seen but a fraction of the game, and like I said, people who played for 4 hours say otherwise.



Now that I think about it, he was in another Horizon thread doing this too....

I mean I did watch the live stream for an hour and I just wasn't phased by it. Like I said, I think I have grown out of this genre, and it is not just me hating on Horizon, I would say the same with a lot of open world games because they just do not appeal to me anymore.

You do have a good point though with us having just seen a slice of the game. I may keep my eyes open, but as of right now I just don't think this game is for me.

Please stop entertaining this Waffle dude, Please.

...stop harassing me.
 

eXistor

Member
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?
 
^^ maybe its just your personal problem, that you cant get exited for games anymore. And if you dont like open world games. Why do you feel the need to go into a thread about a live stream of an open world game? To tell us you dont like open world games. We got it! Thx for letting us know.
 
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?

"Why do people like what I don't"..opinions are not hard to grasp. People who played the game disagree with everything you said. What seperates anything from other games? What games do you like? Horizon looks like one of the more unique new IPs in awhile, it's not hard to see why people are excited, previews were glowing for a reason. Looks generic? How?
 

Loudninja

Member
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?
I dont understand how and of this look generic.
 
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?

Then why are you here?
 
...stop harassing me.
They are not. You have repeated your sentiments over and over and thus not really added to threads other than the same complaint that makes no sense if you've not played the game yourself or read/seen the previews.

Maybe you need to take a break from gaming?
 
All photo modes should have free cams. Also changing time of day is just revolutionary.
Horizon screenshot thread will be amazing.
 
Let's not start getting combative. He's asking a legit question

I am not sure how "Why do people like what I do not" is a valid question. I mean, if you cannot grasp why some people are excited for Horizon, especially after all the very positive press impressions? Sounds pretty disingenuous. It is a typical tactic used by those to shit on something on forums.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
^^ maybe its just your personal problem, that you cant get exited for games anymore. And if you dont like open world games. Why do you feel the need to go into a thread about a live stream of an open world game? To tell us you dont like open world games. We got it! Thx for letting us know.

If you are referring to me, it is because I have been interested since this game was announced (Robot Dinosaurs sounds cool as fuck), and I used to actually like open-world games (ACreed, Far Cry, Skyrim, Fallout, GTA, Witcher 3, etc.) And not liking open-world games is a relatively recent phenomena for me. Also just because I wasn't excited by the game does not mean I should not be able to post in a thread about it. It is also not like I was bad-mouthing the game entirely, I gave credit where credit was due, while also talking about the stuff that doesn't appeal to me.

They are not. You have repeated your sentiments over and over and thus not really added to threads other than the same complaint that makes no sense if you've not played the game yourself or read/seen the previews.

Maybe you need to take a break from gaming?

I mean I did stop responding in the other thread, because I had nothing new to add, and I decided to post in this thread after viewing the live stream where I had new stuff to say. And someone telling people that they should not respond to me is harassment.

And I have been taking a break from gaming besides Overwatch for about a year now.
 
Let's not start getting combative. He's asking a legit question

Sorry but I just don't see how these previews can seem bland and generic to anyone who is legitimately interested in the game.

My question is a legitimate one though. I don't understand why someone would spend time in a forum thread about a game they have no interest in.
 
I am not sure how "Why do people like what I do not" is a valid question. I mean, if you cannot grasp why some people are excited for Horizon, especially after all the very positive press impressions? Sounds pretty disingenuous.
If it was a "this looks like shit, why would anyone like this" kind of comment, I'd agree. But he gave some perspective and asked in a genuinely curious manner IMO

I made the same kind of comments in the Undertale thread
 
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?
Quite a bit but there is no need to get into it. What could I say that would make you go, "Oh, you're right! This isn't incredibly bland to me anymore!"? You have your mind made up. It isn't for you and that is okay. You don't have to make it seem like a mind boggling conundrum that other people like it though.
 
If it was a "this looks like shit, why would anyone like this" kind of comment, I'd agree. But he gave some perspective and asked in a genuinely curious manner IMO

I made the same kind of comments in the Undertale thread
Fair enough, but whenever I see that "What do people see in This" type of comment, most of the time alarm bells ring lol.
 
If you are referring to me, it is because I have been interested since this game was announced (Robot Dinosaurs sounds cool as fuck), and I used to actually like open-world games (ACreed, Far Cry, Skyrim, Fallout, GTA, Witcher 3, etc.) And not liking open-world games is a relatively recent phenomena for me. Also just because I wasn't excited by the game does not mean I should not be able to post in a thread about it. It is also not like I was bad-mouthing the game entirely, I gave credit where credit was due, while also talking about the stuff that doesn't appeal to me.

Pls explain to me what you would like to see in an open world game with Robo Dinos?

Of course you can post, but with a little bit more substance would be great. That way we all can respond directly and maybe show you why we think it will be a great game.
 

Elfstruck

Member
Oh boy, I can already tell the review thread is gonna be fun. Also, I hope Shinobi makes a big FAQ about the game so people would stop asking.
 
And someone telling people that they should not respond to me is harassment.

And I have been taking a break from gaming besides Overwatch for about a year now.
Again, telling them not to respond to you saying the exact same thing again is not really harassment, but if you want to keep victimizing yourself in these threads I can't stop you.

Anyway, if all you're playing is Overwatch and you're turned off by other games because they aren't "original" or "cool" enough I don't know what to tell you. Aside from the characters Overwatch is NOT original. It is an evolution of Team Fortress and is really well balanced. Perhaps you need to try more games then, rather than take a break, to regain some balanced views on gaming?
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?

Funnily enough, I'm kinda there with you.

It's a shame really, hope it turns out well.
 
Fair enough, but whenever I see that "What do people see in This" type of comment, most of the time alarm bells ring lol.
To be fair, I also find the notion that only people who are interested and positive about something should post to be kind of messed up and completely antithetical to a forum. If it's a dismissive shitpost, sure, not allowed, but being curious or not being onboard with something? Stuff like "why are you here" only discourages discussion

There are a ton of games I liked that I didn't get after watching footage and reading reviews until people offered some new perspectives and impressions
 
To be fair, I also find the notion that only people who are interested and positive about something should post to be kind of messed up and completely antithetical to a forum.

There are a ton of games I liked that I didn't get after watching footage and reading reviews until people offered some new perspectives and impressions

Oh I definitely agree there, the issue with a lot of the negative posts is that they often lack substance, just a way to take a dig at something, those are the ones that are annoying. Legit criticism is obviously good.
 

Interfectum

Member
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?

You're not alone brother. I think the game looks fucking phenomenal but outside of the graphics I'm finding it really hard to get excited about this game. I'm still waiting on that "it" factor that seemingly everyone is seeing but me.
 

Complistic

Member
I can't for a single second understand what about this looks generic or bland. It borrows themes from other games, but I've never seen them put together like this before.
 
I think I just have grown out of the genre honestly. Like I really want to be excited for it, but it just seems like I have played this type of game already. And to clarify the enemies remark, I guess I had different expectations for dinosaur robots.



I really don't play video games much anymore, as they don't really grab me like they used to. I only played one game last year (Overwatch), and like I responded above, the setting sounds interesting as well as the idea itself, however I don't think I like the execution of it.

Played any refreshingly original games recently? How about Gravity Rush 2?
 
To be fair, I also find the notion that only people who are interested and positive about something should post to be kind of messed up and completely antithetical to a forum. If it's a dismissive shitpost, sure, not allowed, but being curious or not being onboard with something? Stuff like "why are you here" only discourages discussion

There are a ton of games I liked that I didn't get after watching footage and reading reviews until people offered some new perspectives and impressions
It's also just an issue in general. It's the reason we have such a divide with people who have differing political views. We are all human, with differing opinions. Closing yourself off or telling people to go away just means you want to confirm your own bias and remain in a circle jerk of one opinion or another.

How about engaging the people with differing people in discussion, eh?!
 

RefigeKru

Banned
If you are referring to me, it is because I have been interested since this game was announced (Robot Dinosaurs sounds cool as fuck), and I used to actually like open-world games (ACreed, Far Cry, Skyrim, Fallout, GTA, Witcher 3, etc.) And not liking open-world games is a relatively recent phenomena for me. Also just because I wasn't excited by the game does not mean I should not be able to post in a thread about it. It is also not like I was bad-mouthing the game entirely, I gave credit where credit was due, while also talking about the stuff that doesn't appeal to me.

I mean I did stop responding in the other thread, because I had nothing new to add, and I decided to post in this thread after viewing the live stream where I had new stuff to say. And someone telling people that they should not respond to me is harassment.

And I have been taking a break from gaming besides Overwatch for about a year now.

You're burnt out.

I only started playing open world games this generation, the Division alone almost destroyed me, I never played any of the Assassins Creed games because they never looked interesting to me and share so many of the genre conventions Ubi is known for. I didn't play Skyrim because I played 1 hour of Oblivion and knew it wasn't for me, mostly because of the gameplay. I almost finished the Witcher 3 but the gameplay wasn't stimulating enough I think (I'm trying to play it again now but I'm not feeling it), got Far Cry 3 on sale and saw what it was going to be pretty soon in and deleted it without a second thought.

To me, this looks like an open world game I can enjoy. Actual strategy in combat and satisfying combat.

You can see a Tallneck and see the rest of the games you've played or you can see a Tallneck and see it as part of Horizon. I do think this is a game that'll polarise based on personal exhaustion with the genre - but remember guys, it's an open world action RPG. It has to have elements of open world games to be considered an open world action RPG.

DOOM was recently praised for embracing the core principles of the First Person shooter, it's obvious to see why a well produced open world game may garner interest, even if not your own.
 

M.D

Member
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?

What games have you been playing? I must be blind if this gameplay can be found in so many other games
 

RefigeKru

Banned
I can't for a single second understand what about this looks generic or bland. It borrows themes from other games, but I've never seen them put together like this before.

It would be nice if people explained because the last list included real time cutscenes.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
It's also just an issue in general. It's the reason we have such a divide with people who have differing political views. We are all human, with differing opinions. Closing yourself off or telling people to go away just means you want to confirm your own bias and remain in a circle jerk of one opinion or another.

How about engaging the people with differing people in discussion, eh?!

Generally speaking, people do 'engage' these people in discussion in thread 1, in thread 2, in thread 3, in thread 4, in thread 5 ... and then there comes a point when you have to ask: Haven't all your concerns already been answered in the previous threads? Which leaves us with only two conclusions: Amnesia or Trolling. There is an outside chance that amnesia is the culprit though.
 
It all looks incredibly bland to me. I'm sorry but as much as I try I cannot fathom why people think this looks good. From a technical standpoint it looks good, but artistically it looks generic as all hell to me. Then there's the gameplay which also looks dime-a-dozen. I don't get it. I'm not trying to be a dick here and troll you guys, I seriously don't see it. What separates this from any other AAA titles?
Robot...dinosaurs.
 
With each gameplay, i am losing hype for this game...

I don't get the point of this type of comment, you gave zero specifics, why exactly is this the case? Can you at least try to elaborate?

Generally speaking, people do 'engage' these people in discussion in thread 1, in thread 2, in thread 3, in thread 4, in thread 5 ... and then there comes a point when you have to ask: Haven't all your concerns already been answered in the previous threads?

This as well, it is often the same people saying the same thing in these threads.
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
Gameplay I've seen makes it look very "stale", if that make any sense.

Slow and maybe poor combat feedback?

I'm not quite sure what it is, among other things.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Gameplay I've seen makes it look very "stale", if that make any sense.

Slow and maybe poor combat feedback?

I'm not quite sure what it is, among other things.

This looks on a whole different level than most any other open world game in terms of combat and controls. I wish most of them played half as good as Horizon is looking.
 
You're not alone brother. I think the game looks fucking phenomenal but outside of the graphics I'm finding it really hard to get excited about this game. I'm still waiting on that "it" factor that seemingly everyone is seeing but me.
I think this post exemplifies what it really is.

People have a natural urge to be included with others. If a bunch of people are excited for something, an individual wants to be excited for it too. If that individual is unable to get excited for something, it must be because A)it doesn't look good and people are excited over nothing or B)the individual is missing something that will suddenly trigger similar levels of excitement.

The latter happening isn't entirely impossible but I think it is more about the former. An individual doesn't like something so they have to make it seem so bewildering how others like it. "There is nothing to be excited about", for example.

I guess it is just hard not to fall into that cycle. I couldn't care less about Halo, for example, partially because I just don't like fps. I'm not going to try and make it seem like there is nothing interesting/exciting/etc... about Halo though. It just isn't for me. People just have a hard time accepting something isn't for them without coming off in the way I explained above.
 

RefigeKru

Banned
Gameplay I've seen makes it look very "stale", if that make any sense.

Slow and maybe poor combat feedback?

I'm not quite sure what it is, among other things.

I've seen videos where players have been shooting fire arrows at Watchers, even in the eye and it takes like 10 to kill one.

Quite frustrating to watch because if they simply changed arrow type, they'd get one/twoshot in their weak point. A lot of the time I think its down to this and the weak points of enemies not properly being exploited.
 
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