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[Angelus Errare]

House Means and Way Committee passed it.

Hope conservatives remember who created this shit; and don't put party over country...or their lives.

And I hope liberals fuck off with the purity tests then turn around and act shocked that human cancer wins the next election.

Also I hope people vote in the goddamn muthafuckin midterms! FUCKING PLEASE VOTE

 

[GK86]

Link.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) predicted Sunday there would be a "bloodbath" if his party didn't unite behind his Obamacare replacement bill, even as Republican opponents to the proposal continued blasting it.

"If we don't keep our word to the people who sent us here, then yeah," Ryan told CBS' "Face the Nation," when asked if he agreed with President Trump's comments last week that the party would suffer a "bloodbath" in the 2018 midterm election if they failed to pass legislation repealing and replacing Obamacare.

"We ran for repeal and replace in 2010. We ran on repeal and replace in 2012, in 2014, in 2016. Oh, by the way, we spent six months last year developing a replacement plan. We ran on that replacement plan," Ryan added, calling opposition from his fellow Republicans "really puzzling."

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Link.

"Why are some Republicans not completely stupid and heartless?? Really puzzling..."

 

[Volimar]

They had no replacement plan last year. Does it make him physically ill to speak the truth?

 

[Ithil]

If they've been running on repeal and replace since 2010, why did they only start working on a replace plan in 2016?

 

[Foffy]

If they've been running on repeal and replace since 2010, why did they only start working on a replace plan in 2016?

They didn't have any plan other than to not support that dark Muslim guy who was a secret Communist ready to kill Ronald Reagan's dream of a true free market, neoliberal society where the light of the whites shines forever above the poverty of anybody else, because that's what Jesus would dig.

 

[Piecake]

If they've been running on repeal and replace since 2010, why did they only start working on a replace plan in 2016?

They wanted to replace it with the old system, but their problem is that some of the stuff in Obamacare is really really popular and it would be political suicide to take that away.

Simply put, too much time has passed where they can't do what they actually want to do.

 

[Steel]

"Why are some Republicans not completely stupid and heartless?? Really puzzling..."

The pubs who don't want this bill want a clean repeal, so....

 

[Vengrim]

Link.

If they ran on a repeal and replace for the last 6+ years then why would 2018 be any different? Part of the problem with today's politics is the perception that there are winners and losers. I mean, sure, some might vote against but I doubt it will be a 'bloodbath'. Republican is some ppl's party and they'll vote that regardless of anything else just to 'win'. To do otherwise would mean they voted for a democrat and that is worse than anything a Republican does.

 

[Foffy]

If they ran on a repeal and replace for the last 6+ years then why would 2018 be any different? Part of the problem with today's politics is the perception that there are winners and losers. I mean, sure, some might vote against but I doubt it will be a 'bloodbath'. Republican is some ppl's party and they'll vote that regardless of anything else just to 'win'. To do otherwise would mean they voted for a democrat and that is worse than anything a Republican does.

It's a bloodbath coming in the sense that the Republican party wants to get some policies done and passed, or otherwise they're scared that they'll lose their seats and power.

What shitheads like Ryan don't realize is they really lack a boogeyman this time to blame other than themselves if and when they push this repeal and it makes things worse. Who do you blame when your ACA alternative is a worse one? We're already seeing them trying to propagandize dissent to their proposals by calling those that do "liberals" or "paid protestors" or even avoiding town hall meetings. It's a flip on what Noam Chomsky calls manufactured consent in culture; they're manufacturing dissent as fringe, and thus unworthy of respect or consideration, as the same will apply to those negatively affected.

Get ready for Paul Ryan to say "nothing is perfect" when this proposal, if enacted, actively harms others. He will instead pivot as the usual neoliberals do: when X works, it's the system, but when X fails, it's on the person, not a norm, a fluke, "not done properly," etc.

 

[rjinaz]

Seems to me like they can just keep saying, well Obamacare was so bad it set us back years. They can keep placing the blame on Obamacare as the failure and telling people it's going to take time before the damage is undone and the new insurance pays off blah blah blah and people will believe it because the Republicans have them convinced they are the party of the hard workers, always out for their best interest and the Democrats just want to steal from you.

 

[GK86]

Rep. Jamie Raskin‏: “When the #ACA was debated, the GOP complained about how fast things went. It took 1.5 years to pass ACA, not 3 days.”-@RepRaskin #SaveACA (youtube video)

 

[Swass]

Rep. Jamie Raskin‏: “When the #ACA was debated, the GOP complained about how fast things went. It took 1.5 years to pass ACA, not 3 days.”-@RepRaskin #SaveACA (youtube video)

Amazing how demecrats seem so level headed and actually feel like they care about their constituents..

 

[Aaron Strife]

Amazing how demecrats seem so level headed and actually feel like they care about their constituents..

Almost like both of those things are true.

I won't deny there's certainly some corrupt and seedy Democrats, but overall I'd fathom to guess most of them are probably decent enough people trying to do good for their constituents.

Most rank-and-file Republicans probably are too, except political pressure has forced them to vote hard right on everything and do nothing for their districts, and none of them have enough of a spine to stand up to them after they cheerfully rode the tea party wave back into power, so fuck 'em.