How many Japanese-made games from this gen can you name that don't include fanservice
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Phonomezer
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well, looking at the top 20 from this week's media create chart I see a lot of Japanese developed games that would appear to lack sexually attractive characters.
this is the most popular game, at the moment, in Japan:
Fuck she's hot.
So basically you're saying "if I don't like it I'll label it and condemn it with extremely sloppy use of language and come out looking correct no matter what you say, god dammit!" ok
Ahhh yes, I forgot about Ming.
A shame, because she's the only sexualised character in the game.
Seth's skirt is pretty short.
Yes.
Then I'd argue that the Dark Souls example doesn't really qualify. Gwynevere has an ornate, regal outfit to match her ornate, regal surrounding in Anor Londo. It's revealing, yes, but clothes like that could indeed be pretty revealing historically. I think that's enough context for it not to be pointless pandering.
Phonomezer
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Femmeworth
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Faye Lee is definitely sexed up, now whether that's fanservice is debatable.
well, looking at the top 20 from this week's media create chart I see a lot of Japanese developed games that would appear to lack sexually attractive characters.
this is the most popular game, at the moment, in Japan:
Dayum, I want her to shake my tree!
Giant, veiny UE3 tits.
This 100%. The narrow usage of the term is quite offensive.
well, looking at the top 20 from this week's media create chart I see a lot of Japanese developed games that would appear to lack sexually attractive characters.
this is the most popular game, at the moment, in Japan:
Dude, NSFW
JordanN
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Tsunade is in both games.
Dragon Quest has Jessica and Puff Puffs are a recurring gag, albeit one that's been axed in localization at times (and DQIX is one of the guiltiest of the other type of fan service), and I'm sure some of those Monster Hunter outfits must be skimpy on women. Holds true for Mario and Pokemon though, or it's too mild to really count.
I was kind of expecting that, and either way it IS based on a manga for teenagers. Having some pop up is very likely.
Romars202129
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Are you really tempted to start jerking? That's kind of weird. Prepubescence at it's finest.
But, Demon's Souls. And Gran Turismo! And... Resident Evil?
But, Demon's Souls. And Gran Turismo! And... Resident Evil?
Femmeworth
Banned
So it was a reward? Sounds like fanservice to me. /not fully serious
Her ankles are clearly visible. Unacceptable!
Rather than repeat what I remembered (especially in case I was messing it up) I just found the interview where her design was discussed. Miyazaki just wanted a giant woman, designer made her big breasted and was too happy with the design to be turned down. So while there's symbolism otherwise in that case it's more, uhh, self service.
Crash Station
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Is that honestly what you think of the industry over there? Come on...
Romars202129
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I'm sure one of them didn't have fan service. Probably.
Mirror's Edge?
It'd be fairer to make the same challenge here though: what core games don't have fan service too? Just look at Mass Effect, especially
EDI's camel toe
But they already had Priscilla. I guess she wasn't big enough.
you know some otaku's were craving that flat chest.
Honestly, it's not fan service at all and the design works perfectly for the game. She's pretty much the only beautiful thing in the whole game, and yet
she's just an illusion and you find out when you join the last covenant that she's long dead, which fits perfectly with the hopeless nature of the game
When I think of a goddess, or even historical goddesses in ancient religion/mythology, they're often renowned as creators of life, or the embodiment of fertility, or nurturing motherhood. Nothing about her design strays from anything I'd picture in Greek mythology for Aphrodite.
To make it that far in Dark Souls and to then stop and proclaim "FAN SERVICE! I see breasts!" really does sound like some kind of extreme sexual phobia.
I think the "giant woman" thing is meant more to evoke a sense of motherly protectiveness, going by that interview.
The fact she's really an illusion speaks volumes.
While there's merit to that point, I find arguments like yours are seriously putting too much faith in their intentions when the guy clearly just wanted to draw a woman he liked.
Shadow Hog
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Sonc Generations has tons of fanservice, but not of the sexual connotation the OP is using, so it probably counts.
Madeleine?
Crash Station
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I also think it's funny this is another "Nintendo doesn't count" thread. If you let them into the party, there's probably a bigger percentage of western games with fanservice than Japanese games.
Snowden's Secret
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Half Minute Hero?
I can't think of any Japanese games that have sex scenes, or even kissing.
How many western games had sex scenes this gen?
I think Dragon's Dogma has hinted ones between the Arisen and the Duchess.
outunderthestars
Banned
Especially when you consider that their platforms are the dominant force in Japan at the moment.
ShockingAlberto
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I can think of very few games this generation that do not have fan service, but I'd say Blue Dragon does not have much if any.
The Earth Defense Force games do not. Kingdom Hearts does not (the closest might be Kairi or the Disney Princesses, at worst). Dragon's Dogma has a character with large breasts, but she wears a normal dress so I am not sure that's enough to declare it fanservice.
The Earth Defense Force games do not. Kingdom Hearts does not (the closest might be Kairi or the Disney Princesses, at worst). Dragon's Dogma has a character with large breasts, but she wears a normal dress so I am not sure that's enough to declare it fanservice.
Seriously? There's an entire subgenre of Japanese games with sex scenes
Man, the
reveal the main villain had her throw off her conservative robes in favor of being barely clothed.
However, there is a point made that there's a distinction to be made between fanservice and just going for a sexualized appearance. Fan service implies it was mainly done to make the audience, especially fans, happy, but it's possible some of these are just for self gratification (Gwynevere most notably). And sometimes, yes, there is a point to the designs (I think Ys Seven's was kind of following an archetype there and it wasn't ridiculous otherwise).
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