Review based on whatever is available the day of. No going back and redoing reviews.
DLC doesn't mean stuff that costs money. The game isn't going to launch with all the maps or the modes. We'll have to wait like 3 months to get it in full basically. Not to mention all the content locked behind Amiibos is some of the worst kind of paid DLC.
Yeah.
Sounds like Nintendo fans can't use the "Nintendo always launches finished games, no relying on patches" boast anymore.
I have a bad feeling that this game is gonna get eaten alive by critics.
$60 for a full single player campaign, 5 maps, 2 online modes, and it essentially comes with a free season pass that other companies would've charged $30 or more for.
A Game similar to Splatoon is Garden Warfare and it has 8 Maps and had 8 game modes and cost $30 if I remember correctly, People should wait before buying this game especially since Garden Warfare dropped in price really fast
I have a bad feeling that this game is gonna get eaten alive by critics.
A Game similar to Splatoon is Garden Warfare and it has 8 Maps and had 8 game modes and cost $30 if I remember correctly, People should wait before buying this game especially since Garden Warfare dropped in price really fast
I have a bad feeling that this game is gonna get eaten alive by critics.
Yeah.
Sounds like Nintendo fans can't use the "Nintendo always launches finished games, no relying on patches" boast anymore.
They should stop with a coming practice because?
Where were you when Nintendo announced Tournament Mode for Smash 4, a feature that had been in since Melee, as free DLC coming at a later time (and isn't even out yet)? Did you make this post in the 50 Facts Smash Direct thread?
How about the Dota 2 release thread?
Treat it like Halo.
What does this have to do with anything? Tourney Mode is one feature, not half of an online mode. If Smash had launched with 5 stages and no picking who you were with in Team Battles you bet your ass people would be pissed. Smash 4 was still feature complete despite a few details, you're comparing apples and oranges. Same goes for the Dota 2 comparison.
And it's not like I'm not "allowed" to make the remark because I didn't make it earlier. This is the first Nintendo game in recent memory that launches flat out unfinished, and it's pretty obvious it's unfinished.
When most critics were gentle with AC: Unity and Halo: MCC, games that were broken at launch, I'll be a little annoyed if they tear into a (I'm assuming) completely playable game "on principle".
Now if Splatoon is also buggy and/or has server issues, that'd be disappointing.
"Unfinished" implies a buggy, incomplete release. "Relying on patches" implies that the game will be a glitched out mess at launch. I saw nothing that indicated either in the Direct. Of course, never let the truth get in the way of a good narrative, right?
If a reviewer wants to re-review a product based on post-launch updates, I don't see the problem with that. The original review already serviced its purpose for the people at launch.Are you saying that this new practice of going back to update reviews should continue?
Reviews imo should be based on whatever is first handed to them. If its a buggy mess, then the score should reflect that. If they patch in a fix, there should be an impressions or news update but the score should remain the same.
What does this have to do with anything? Tourney Mode is one feature, not half of an online mode. If Smash had launched with 5 stages and no picking who you were with in Team Battles you bet your ass people would be pissed. Smash 4 was still feature complete despite a few details, you're comparing apples and oranges. Same goes for the Dota 2 comparison.
Wait, hold up. Only 5 maps for a team based shooter that costs $60?
da fuq?
That's way more concerning than the online being gradually rolled out.
I have a bad feeling that this game is gonna get eaten alive by critics.
"Unfinished" implies a buggy, incomplete release. "Relying on patches" implies that the game will be a glitched out mess at launch. I saw nothing that indicated either in the Direct. Of course, never let the truth get in the way of a good narrative, right?
Except it's not. It's "unfinished" only in the sense that there will be continuous updates that add more modes. You know, like most multiplayer shooters. Or are you telling me that TF2 is still "incomplete" because we still get new weapons, modes, and maps every few months? They pretty much gave us the launch exactly as promised. We can argue whether or not it is worth $60 (I do but clearly I'm in the minority) but to say its unfinished because more content is on the way is to ignore every mutliplayer game out there.
Ah yes, I remember some of the Halo MCC reviews, "Singleplayer is good; Multiplayer will probably also be good when it works; 9/10."
Are you saying that this new practice of going back to update reviews should continue?
Reviews imo shouldbased on whatever is first handed to them. If its a buggy mess, then the score should reflect that. If they patch in a fix, there should be an impressions or news update but the score should remain the same.
What is the benefit of continuing the practice? I don't really see one. Other than telling developers "you have a second chance" every time.
If a reviewer wants to re-review a product based on post-launch updates, I don't see the problem with that. The original review already serviced its purpose for the people at launch.
But I do have a problem with people demanding reviewers to continually update their reviews of old games. That's absurd.
Had no idea what you meant with "coming practice" in your original post, thought you meant upcoming but it still didn't make sense.This is quite the opposite of new, I have gaming magazines from the Xbox360 era which did this. Consider updating the review if the product made changes which warrants the update, positively or negatively. Thats it.
Except it's not. It's "unfinished" only in the sense that there will be continuous updates that add more modes. You know, like most multiplayer shooters. Or are you telling me that TF2 is still "incomplete" because we still get new weapons, modes, and maps every few months? They pretty much gave us the launch exactly as promised. We can argue whether or not it is worth $60 (I do but clearly I'm in the minority) but to say its unfinished because more content is on the way is to ignore every mutliplayer game out there.
I mean, it'll probably get props for its single player, but I have a feeling that it'll get criticized for its lacking multiplayer features at launch. Fortunately, most love the actual game, so I think it'll get away with a 7/10 assuming nothing goes wrong before launch.The previews of it have all been extremely positive. So critics seem to love how it plays. The content is what may be an issue. The numbers for its on disc features are just low across the board.
I can see where he's coming from. It's a game with a multiplayer portion that's launching with five maps and two modes. That's small. Like ridiculously small for a game in which most of its marketing focus has been on its multiplayer portion. They should certainly be applauded for delivering free maps. But it should almost be expected when there's only five at launch.
Lol, that's just flat out false. Neither unfinished nor "to be patched later" implies that the game is buggy or unreleased. It can also very well mean the game isn't feature complete at launch, which is a legit criticism of the game. Titanfall didn't launch buggy and was still criticized for being bare-bones. You're applying completely arbitrary interpretations of words just so they mean what you want them to mean.
Of course, never let truth get in the way of a good "it's ok when Nintendo does it!" narrative.
This is arbitrary. Smash is getting a pass in this case because it has "enough", but I know more than a few people have complained about the lack of tourney mode, as well as limited 8 player stages (which is still be updated) and the lack of single player modes (which might not ever be amended).
Eh, it's a bit different. Both promised more content for free post-launch. But none of Halo MCC worked well at launch, wheareas at least what little there is of Splatoon at launch will most likely work.
Plus Halo got reviewed really well despite having jack shit working well at launch.
I mean, it'll probably get props for its single player, but I have a feeling that it'll get criticized for its lacking multiplayer features at launch. Fortunately, most love the actual game, so I think it'll get away with a 7/10 assuming nothing goes wrong before launch.
Lol, that's just flat out false. Neither unfinished nor "to be patched later" implies that the game is buggy or unreleased. It can also very well mean the game isn't feature complete at launch, which is a legit criticism of the game. Titanfall didn't launch buggy and was still criticized for being bare-bones. You're applying completely arbitrary interpretations of words just so they mean what you want them to mean.
Of course, never let truth get in the way of a good "it's ok when Nintendo does it!" narrative.
Well that was kind of the point.Plus Halo got reviewed really well despite having jack shit working well at launch.
New maps released every couple of weeks for free if I got it right.Wait, hold up. Only 5 maps for a team based shooter that costs $60?
da fuq?
That's way more concerning than the online being gradually rolled out.
Lol, that's just flat out false. Neither unfinished nor "to be patched later" implies that the game is buggy or unreleased. It can also very well mean the game isn't feature complete at launch, which is a legit criticism of the game. Titanfall didn't launch buggy and was still criticized for being bare-bones. You're applying completely arbitrary interpretations of words just so they mean what you want them to mean.
Of course, never let truth get in the way of a good "it's ok when Nintendo does it!" narrative.
How substantial is the sp?
OK, since you are clearly the word expert, please explain what "complete" means. I already said that this game seemed "complete" to me, but clearly I have a "narrative" and as such am too stupid to do anything but praise Nintendo so please enlightened me oh intelligent one.
Because we already knew what was going on at launch for months now. It's only now with the announcement of future updates that the narrative of "barebones imcomplete" launch is now being taunted out.