How to Go Broke the Nic Cage Way
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nVidiot_Whore
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golem said:
They don't really provide much evidence that he is "sunk".. or that he's even broke.
ShadyMilkman
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Valley Girl is/was the shit.
F the haters
F the haters
Xyrmellon
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nVidiot_Whore said:
I was typing a response to this about to say his film choices alone prove he's broke, but if you analyze them one by one, you can argue against that. I'll admit I have not seen most of these.
Plenty people enjoyed the National Treasure films, and as argued here already they may have been better than Indy 4. Bangkok Dangerous and Wicker Man were both remakes of cult favorites, so perhaps he believed he could at least make a comparable film if not a better one. He's a comic fanatic, so he jumped at the chance to do Ghost Rider. I doubt he cared what kind of film it was , he just wanted to be a superhero. Remember he was almost Superman. (Good God can you imagine that now?) I know alot of people that liked Drive Angry, and Bad Leiutenant actually garnered him some praise.
Season of the Witch is the only one I scratch my head at.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
He's doing it right.
Somebody will always pay him, i.e. whenever National Treasure 12 comes out.
Seeing his face pisses me off in a movie, but fuck if he isn't living it up irresponsibly, but in a good way. He's not blowing it all on blow, he's just buying insane shit we all wish we could.
Somebody will always pay him, i.e. whenever National Treasure 12 comes out.
Seeing his face pisses me off in a movie, but fuck if he isn't living it up irresponsibly, but in a good way. He's not blowing it all on blow, he's just buying insane shit we all wish we could.
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I feel like there should be a, "SHIT NIC CAGE, GET IT TOGETHER" pic in this thread but I'm too lazy to make it.
nVidiot_Whore
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Xyrmellon said:
Well, he certainly increased the amount of films he was doing.. that's not "proof" of anything.. but combined with other evidence.. sure.. the guy had some serious financial trouble.
But he can generate 10's of millions in income as well.. which is why it's hard to call the guy broke. He makes probably $40-50 million every year.
edit: Also, I enjoyed him in Kick ASs
davepoobond
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money is made for spending.
Nic cage is great , i love a bunch of his movies and even the horrible ones like drive angry , next , season of the witch are fun to watch , yes they are stupid but still fun. They are like the transformer movies .
National treasure 1+2 are both really good films and i look foward to a third.
These are people just wanting to hate on him. If you pick any actor who has had what a 30+ year long career you will find a record just as bad/good as he has , hell some younger actors have one worse
National treasure 1+2 are both really good films and i look foward to a third.
These are people just wanting to hate on him. If you pick any actor who has had what a 30+ year long career you will find a record just as bad/good as he has , hell some younger actors have one worse
Battersea Power Station
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The Bad Lieutenant re-imagining hasn't been mentioned in this thread, but most seem to think it's a good performance. Have yet to check it out. I also dug him in Kick Ass.
He's always going to be able to get a good part.
He's always going to be able to get a good part.
Roland Deschain
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Drive Angry was a great B-movie.
His performance was hypnotizing in Bad Lieutenant. Sure, he's in a lot of shit but at least he goes out on a limb and doesn't play it safe.
His performance was hypnotizing in Bad Lieutenant. Sure, he's in a lot of shit but at least he goes out on a limb and doesn't play it safe.
I'm loving the fact that people are submitting lists of good movies that he's in and then finding any reason to not give him credit. In one, it's the female lead, in another the supporting cast, another the director, and another the script. Yet, when a movie is crap, the fault is his....
Sorry, but Cage seems to make movies for one of three reasons:
1) for the paycheck...these movies are REALLY easy to spot. Season of the Witch, Wicker Man, Windtalkers, etc...you can tell when he shows up to a set with little to no prep
2) because he's having fun...Ghost Rider, Kick-Ass, The Rock, Face/Off, Gone in 60 Seconds, etc...these are easy to see that he's there having fun, (both in the movie and during promotional interviews) he's far more invested in the movie, and it makes them far more enjoyable to watch
3) for the role...these are far, far fewer...but if you cut out his other movies, they make a damn impressive resume...Matchstick Men, Adaptation, Captain Corelli's Mandolin, Leaving Las Vegas, even City of Angels...they're a bit harder to identify, but, again, there are differences in interviews. He also seems to be a completely different actor in these than the same guy screaming about how'd it get burned...
I'm not saying he's a great actor, but he's clearly got talent that comes out from time to time. His dramatic roles are a step above many, and his action movies are more entertaining than most. And, yes, National Treasure, as absurd as the story was, was better than Indy 4 (and Indy 2, for that matter).
Also, Raising Arizona, Wild at Heart, and Honeymoon in Vegas are all fantastic.
Sorry, but Cage seems to make movies for one of three reasons:
1) for the paycheck...these movies are REALLY easy to spot. Season of the Witch, Wicker Man, Windtalkers, etc...you can tell when he shows up to a set with little to no prep
2) because he's having fun...Ghost Rider, Kick-Ass, The Rock, Face/Off, Gone in 60 Seconds, etc...these are easy to see that he's there having fun, (both in the movie and during promotional interviews) he's far more invested in the movie, and it makes them far more enjoyable to watch
3) for the role...these are far, far fewer...but if you cut out his other movies, they make a damn impressive resume...Matchstick Men, Adaptation, Captain Corelli's Mandolin, Leaving Las Vegas, even City of Angels...they're a bit harder to identify, but, again, there are differences in interviews. He also seems to be a completely different actor in these than the same guy screaming about how'd it get burned...
I'm not saying he's a great actor, but he's clearly got talent that comes out from time to time. His dramatic roles are a step above many, and his action movies are more entertaining than most. And, yes, National Treasure, as absurd as the story was, was better than Indy 4 (and Indy 2, for that matter).
Also, Raising Arizona, Wild at Heart, and Honeymoon in Vegas are all fantastic.
Holy shit, Mr. Cage is awesome. Seriously. Some pretty crazy/bad decisions in there, but he's got (had?) so much money he just doesn't give a fuck.
I like him as an actor, but I don't like a lot of his movies. The last I saw was Sorcerer's Apprentice, after Jeff Cannata (thanks for "2 Ns, 1 T" catchphrase Jeff, you saved me from opening a new tab!) was pretty high on it. I didn't care for it (same terrible song played a half dozen times throughout the movie, shut reminded me of Top Gun. Also the guy who played the titular apprentice is annoying to me. And seriously who the fuck would be doing anything besides practicing if someone came up to them and said "oh hey, here you can throw plasma balls and shit and this is awesome"?), but I thought Cage did a good job, especially when my first impression had been "now way will Cage pull this off, he's always and forever a modern character portrayer".
Back on topic, Cage sounds pretty cool, if also pretty foolish.
I like him as an actor, but I don't like a lot of his movies. The last I saw was Sorcerer's Apprentice, after Jeff Cannata (thanks for "2 Ns, 1 T" catchphrase Jeff, you saved me from opening a new tab!) was pretty high on it. I didn't care for it (same terrible song played a half dozen times throughout the movie, shut reminded me of Top Gun. Also the guy who played the titular apprentice is annoying to me. And seriously who the fuck would be doing anything besides practicing if someone came up to them and said "oh hey, here you can throw plasma balls and shit and this is awesome"?), but I thought Cage did a good job, especially when my first impression had been "now way will Cage pull this off, he's always and forever a modern character portrayer".
Back on topic, Cage sounds pretty cool, if also pretty foolish.
jamallinthesame
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I find it incredibly pathetic that Playboy posted all of that. Why do they care about how one guy spends his money?
nVidiot_Whore
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Rubenov said:
Movies that are "over the top" in any way tend to be fairly polarizing.
I found it in the "highly enjoyable over the top" sort of way... as opposed to.. just about everything Robert Rodriguez has touched for instance.. whose films I generally find cheesy and boring.
speculawyer
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Combichristoffersen
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Wicker Man was a great comedy flick at least
Al-ibn Kermit
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Bad Lieutenant and Lord of War were great movies that he carried almost entirely by himself so he definitely has skills. But he also makes a lot of cash-ins between every gem.
He's like Anthony Anderson, sometimes he'll give a great performance in The Shield or Hustle & Flow but then he also plays in crap like Scary Movie 4 and Alone in the Dark to pay the bills.
He's like Anthony Anderson, sometimes he'll give a great performance in The Shield or Hustle & Flow but then he also plays in crap like Scary Movie 4 and Alone in the Dark to pay the bills.
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Nic Cage is awesome. He has two level of films. Movies he obviously cares about and is usually excellent in them, and movies he just does for the cash, which are so awesomely bad they are entertaining. Either way, you can't lose with a Nic Cage film.
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T.M. MacReady
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in Drive Angry, a fully clothed Nicolas Cage has sex with a waitress he just met while smoking a cigar and swigging from a bottle of Jack Daniels. He is then attacked, murders at least 10 dudes while still nailing the girl, and picks up the cigar he dropped after finishing.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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quadriplegicjon said:
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The man has a dinosaur skull! Who doesn't dream of having a dinosaur skull in their living room? That makes up for all his mistakes he's ever done in his life.CrankyJay said:
Loved Cage in Con Air, but I don't dare to watch it again since I'll probably ruin all the good memories I have of it. Can't stand him nowadays.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Looking back now, Con Air was an awful movie, though still enjoyable to watch ony for the hilarious characters.
Koopakiller
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3 million seems like a good deal for an island. I'd buy two.
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