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Hugo |OT| A Martin Scorsese (3D) Picture

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Anton Sugar

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Expendable. said:
I don't think it is a stretch whatsoever. What Scorsese is pulling off has similarities to the magic Melies pulled off back then and two come together beautiful in both story and execution,
especially in that final moment.
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But that's the thing--I'm just not seeing it. 3D to me is still just a perk of seeing it in the theatre, and it doesn't even add much for me there, it just makes me more aware of the medium in most instances. Even in the best examples (this, and Transformers 3, recently), I've just never thought, "WOW!" or felt that it enhanced the film. It's fun and some cool things can be done with it, but, eh...

Of course, everything I just said
was basically line-for-line from the movie, only about film, but eh.
Maybe I'll come around.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Angry Fork said:
What's with old directors fascination with heavy CGI lately? I get that it's easier physically, and you can have created whatever comes into your mind but they always tend to go towards the 'all ages' shit which is code for kiddy. Pixar is pretty much the only company that actually lives up to the all ages phrase.

I want to see something like that french film 'Renaissance' in terms of "adult" complexity and CGI visuals but from someone like Scorsese. Sin City is the only other thing I can think of that really explored that space to a fun, interesting degree.
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This is not a kiddie movie. It's less kid fare than Pixar movies.

In fact, I think this is really a European style light drama* with kids than it is a movie *for* kids. But that's not how they are marketing it. I think kids will not be thrilled by it, actually.


* Cinema Paradiso is an apt comparison. Or Amelie.
 
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Angry Fork

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That sounds really good then, I was just talking based on the marketing which makes it look like it would be for kids. It looked like a Polar Express/Christmas Carol Zemeckis type film. Basically if this wasn't being done by Scorsese I'd have no want/reason to check it out. Cinema Paradiso (directors cut) made me cry like a fucking baby btw and Amelie was great too.
 
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Anton Sugar

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Angry Fork said:
That sounds really good then, I was just talking based on the marketing which makes it look like it would be for kids. It looked like a Polar Express/Christmas Carol Zemeckis type film. Basically if this wasn't being done by Scorsese I'd have no want/reason to check it out. Cinema Paradiso (directors cut) made me cry like a fucking baby btw and Amelie was great too.
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The marketing of this film was awful, IMO, for those reasons. Looked like a generic holiday kids' film.

It's damned good, though, and on several levels.
 
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Expendable.

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I'm very proud of this piece I just published. Check it out!

10 Classic Films You Must Watch Before Seeing Martin Scorsese’s ‘Hugo'



Before we get further, this article was made for both diehard film fanatics and those just discovering the wonder of early cinema. If you fall into the former category, I suggest bookmarking this and returning after you see Martin Scorsese‘s Hugo. The director has included endless nods to the films that made him who he is and it is a joy to see their inclusion in his adventure film.

If you fall into the latter category, get caught up with my rundown of the classic films most prominently featured in his magical ode to the beginnings of film. Check them all out below, where they are also free to stream.
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And our press conference write-up: 'Hugo’ Cast Discuss Working With A Master On A Kid’s Film Not Exactly For Kids



This past Sunday, journalists converged at uptown Manhattan’s swanky Ritz Carlton Hotel for the Hugo press conference, which consisted of producer Graham King; screenwriter John Logan; actors Sacha Baron Cohen, Emily Mortimer, Chloe Moretz, Asa Butterfield, and Ben Kingsley; and the source material’s author, Brian Selznick.
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Cool article, Plainview.

Now I've got a recommendation for YOU. Go watch Agnes Varda's One Hundred and One Nights (Les Cent et Une Nuits de Simon Cinéma), which is one of my favourite love letters to cinema and that all the impressions of Scorsese's film have me thinking about.

Just do it.
 
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Blader

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Saw it today. Liked it, though I wasn't in love with it like many seem to be. The
film history
segments in the second half were definitely my favorite parts of the film. I love Scorsese in cinephile mode; his reverence for film, and total enchantment by the medium, always resonates with me and it's just as poignant here as it was in his docs about American and Italian cinema. I don't know if it's a point for or against the film that I was far more invested in the film nerd bits than the larger story, but whatever. The 3D was fine but again I feel like, while it looks nice in 3D, I wouldn't have lost anything by seeing it in 2D.

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Expendable.

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God, I hope someone on GAF agrees with me that this can only be seen in 3D.

Sculli, I'm banking on you.

Did you guys not get the spine-tingling feeling when
A Trip to the Moon is presented in 3D at the end? A 100+ year old watershed special effect film brought to literal life again in front of your eyes with another breakthrough technological moment.
It epitomizes the whole film and shows what a master can do with the technology.
 
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cooljeanius

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My Dad is resistant to seeing this. He says it looks more like "just another dumb CGI kids' movie instead of an actual Scorsese movie." How do I convince him otherwise?
 
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StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I'm so hyped for this movie.

I'm a huge fan of 3D but since I have a 3D projector setup at home I haven't gone out to see any 3D movies (or movies in general tbh) at the theater in a long time, preferring to wait and watch them at home. This movie is going to break that trend.

This thread has convinced me to go tonight!
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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I have to wait another two months to see this movie, fuck y'all.

And Plainview, watch that movie I recommended you. Do it. Do it.
 
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Shiv47

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Just got back from this and loved it, but the 3D added nothing for me. My son, who loves the book, really enjoyed it, though he said the 3D started to hurt his eyes after a while.
 
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vehn

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Expendable. said:
God, I hope someone on GAF agrees with me that this can only be seen in 3D.

Sculli, I'm banking on you.

Did you guys not get the spine-tingling feeling when
A Trip to the Moon is presented in 3D at the end? A 100+ year old watershed special effect film brought to literal life again in front of your eyes with another breakthrough technological moment.
It epitomizes the whole film and shows what a master can do with the technology.
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I didn't get that feeling :/ watched it in 3d 30 min ago
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Expendable. said:
God, I hope someone on GAF agrees with me that this can only be seen in 3D.

Sculli, I'm banking on you.
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Oh, it is 3D or bust for me. That is one of the big selling points of the film for me. A master filmmaker like Scorcese playing with new toys and dabbling in a genre he has never done before. It is just so exciting.

That is another reason I am excited to see what craziness Spielberg will unleash with Tintin.
 
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Blader

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Expendable. said:
God, I hope someone on GAF agrees with me that this can only be seen in 3D.

Sculli, I'm banking on you.

Did you guys not get the spine-tingling feeling when
A Trip to the Moon is presented in 3D at the end? A 100+ year old watershed special effect film brought to literal life again in front of your eyes with another breakthrough technological moment.
It epitomizes the whole film and shows what a master can do with the technology.
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I actually got that feeling more at the beginning
of the sequence, where Melies takes out his glasses and cigarette, then moves to the side and his movies begin playing.
I don't know, just a neat transition.
 
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Expendable.

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Thanks guys! Pretty humbled, and my site didn't crash so that was also good.

Scullibundo said:
Cool article, Plainview.

Now I've got a recommendation for YOU. Go watch Agnes Varda's One Hundred and One Nights (Les Cent et Une Nuits de Simon Cinéma), which is one of my favourite love letters to cinema and that all the impressions of Scorsese's film have me thinking about.

Just do it.
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Will watch! I've only seen Cleo From 5 to 7 (LOVED) and bits of Gleaners & I (didn't love, but need to watch the full thing since we were shown parts in class). Adding this to my very long queue :)
 
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StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Just got back from seeing it. Amazing movie! So beautifully done. The 3D was exceptional, perhaps even surpassing Avatar for me. To me this how 3D should be done, pop-out is nice on occasion but that's never been the "point" of 3D for me. To me it made the whole world come alive.

Blader5489 said:
The 3D was fine but again I feel like, while it looks nice in 3D, I wouldn't have lost anything by seeing it in 2D.
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These kinds of quotes are funny to me. It's obvious that the movie was shot and composed as a 3D movie. When someone says it wouldn't lose anything in 2D it just reminds me of my laserdisc days when everyone was still watching pan and scan VHS and I would try to convince my friends that letterbox was much better because you're seeing the movie as the director intended it to be seen and they would say "eh, it doesn't lose anything to me with the sides cut off, I can still enjoy the movie".
 
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Bebpo

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Saw this tonight in 2d because I'm firmly in the "films should not be 3d" camp.

Really liked it by the end. Felt it started off kind of kiddy and by the end was a film for everyone. The main kid and Kingsly both did a very good job.

fwiw, I have a 3DTV and play all my games in 3d and have some 3d/2d blu-rays. I think 3d can add to gaming, but I only feel it detracts from films.
 
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StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Fun fact, Georges Méliès actually inadvertently filmed 2 movies in 3D in 1903. In an effort to film 2 negatives of the movie at the same Georges placed 2 cameras side by side, essentially the same as we do now. He kept 1 negative and the other was sent to America. Now, 100 years later, the 2 prints have been combined to produce actual 3D versions of the films.

Having said that there had already been some stereoscopic movies done in the late 1800s so it wasn't unheard of even at that time.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Expendable. said:
Thanks guys! Pretty humbled, and my site didn't crash so that was also good.



Will watch! I've only seen Cleo From 5 to 7 (LOVED) and bits of Gleaners & I (didn't love, but need to watch the full thing since we were shown parts in class). Adding this to my very long queue :)
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Oh, dude. I fucking HATE The Gleaners and I. You're not the only one that had to watch it for film studies. Blech.

I promise this movie is magical.
 
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Meier

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Just got back from it.. in a word: beautiful. I would put it right there next to Midnight in Paris and 50/50 for my favorite film of the year. The 3D is perfectly done -- speaking of which, WOW @ Titanic.. you'd never guess that was a conversion. I'm kinda tempted to go see it just because it looked so damn good.

That first trailer made this look like a GIANT misstep -- it's a shame that the advertising (or perhaps lack thereof recently) has killed what is such an incredible film. I hope WOM helps it out and gives it some legs going forward.
 
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Daft_Cat

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Expendable. said:
3D SO GOOD, YO.
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I agree with you on the 3D. Feel like it's a much more integral part of the experience than it was Avatar, Tron, Transformers (or whatever other films are considered to be the benchmark).

Here, the 3D doesn't simply enhance; it becomes a part of the artistic expression itself. Without the 3D, the film does lose some of visual impact! It's a 4/4 no matter what though thanks to the brilliant script.

I had high hopes for this and it blew me away.

Also, congrats on the Ebert retweet. That should stand as a testament to all your hard work.
 
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Expendable.

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Just saw it a second time. Knowing the unconvential structure really helps. I become must more invested and actually teared up during many moments. Definitely a Top 10 contender for me now. Best 3D movie ever made.
 
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