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Hunter x Hunter Community Thread - OSU!
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If he's gonna do this, he may as well just retire.
Xpost from manga thread.
I had a feeling it would be a fake once he started getting combo'd. I'm not sure I'm quite getting the revelation at the end though: Gallery Fake doesn't need to be 'active' for the clones to persist, does it? It's not quite clear how Bandit's Secret interacts with Conjuration type Nen, which typically does not require continual Nen usage after the object has manifested. I guess if it is required to be bookmarked or opened, the idea is that Gallery Fake clones won't disappear while Sun & Moon has been affixed, allowing him to bookmark Convert Hands and use Black Voice with the book open?
Either way this is god damn fantastic. Such a fun, well choreographed fight so far. I can easily see this going all the way until Hiatus :lol:
>_> <_<
I had a feeling it would be a fake once he started getting combo'd. I'm not sure I'm quite getting the revelation at the end though: Gallery Fake doesn't need to be 'active' for the clones to persist, does it? It's not quite clear how Bandit's Secret interacts with Conjuration type Nen, which typically does not require continual Nen usage after the object has manifested. I guess if it is required to be bookmarked or opened, the idea is that Gallery Fake clones won't disappear while Sun & Moon has been affixed, allowing him to bookmark Convert Hands and use Black Voice with the book open?
Either way this is god damn fantastic. Such a fun, well choreographed fight so far. I can easily see this going all the way until Hiatus :lol:
I think it would be pretty cool if when the story finally starts taking place in the Dark Continent its almost like a horror movie. All these characters exploring unknown and often strange and crazy environments dealing with all manner of monsters that far outclass them and being picked off one after the other. Its even better since we will have all these so far powerful characters getting their asses handed back to them by the monsters and other things living out there.
With that all said we could also see the first real "power up" in some form from the DC. We already know there are incredible resources there as well as all kinds of incredible threats. For all we know Don Freeces might be so powerful because he's discovered some amazing finds out on the DC as well as encountering the crazy powerful creatures that live there. Of course knowing Togashi things won't be quite so straight forward but the potential is amazing for what we could see.
With that all said we could also see the first real "power up" in some form from the DC. We already know there are incredible resources there as well as all kinds of incredible threats. For all we know Don Freeces might be so powerful because he's discovered some amazing finds out on the DC as well as encountering the crazy powerful creatures that live there. Of course knowing Togashi things won't be quite so straight forward but the potential is amazing for what we could see.
Turin Turambar
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I'm rereading the previous chapters to be sure I understand all the subtleties and ouch my brain. It's funny how I get bored in my IT job with complex applications, servers and services (large enterprise type of stuff) and Togashi is owning my mind right now. I understand every ability individually easily, but how he is passing from one to another, the several limitations (some are one handed, other two handed) and exceptions in them and workarounds used is truly byzantine.
As byzantine is the fact HxH is published in Shonen Jump. How is your average 12 year old boy understand all this?
Turin Turambar
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A nice explanation, not mine
Ultra Numb
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When it comes to battle systems in Shounen, HxH really is in its own tier.
Permanently A
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Oh my fucking god
Chrollo is running around right now slapping Sun and Moon symbols on every single clone fighter
when he has enough he will literally send an army of suicide bombers at Hisoka
Chrollo is running around right now slapping Sun and Moon symbols on every single clone fighter
when he has enough he will literally send an army of suicide bombers at Hisoka
Turin Turambar
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There is something I didn't understand, and it's how Chrollo is using both Sun & Moon (2 hands, to make things permanent) and Gallery's fake (2 hands needed too.)
I think the trick is how Chrollo only said a half true when he explained Sun & Moon.
I think the trick is how Chrollo only said a half true when he explained Sun & Moon.
Yes, it's a 2 hand ability, with one hand putting a sun, and the other putting a moon, and you need both to make things explode. But after the first example (the referee) he isn't using explosions to attack, he is just using S&M for the nen glitch (puppets with them won't disappear). So he is us activating Gallery's Fake, putting it on bookmark, creating clones, then activating Sun & Moon with the book on hand, and with the free hand he is putting lots of suns (or moon) in the clones. They won't explode with just one symbol, but whatever, he is making them permanent that way.
Yeah, that makes sense. It would have to be Sun on the clones though, Bandit's Secret is particular about which hand the book must remain in. Also I love the term 'Nen Glitch' to describe what's going on :lol:
Permanently A
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Taking bets on how Hisoka will use Texture Surprise (which is both textured and very surprising) in this fight.
Nah the head is heavy as fuck. The hardest thing to control when you suffer spinal injury is the head. Its a big ol weight on a fairly narrow connection. Without the back and neck muscles holding it in place it would just flop around.
Ah, I see. Didn't think it was that heavy.
darkwing-buck
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What are the chances someone actually dies in this fight?
I still think Togashi's going to find a way to end this fight with both alive since I still see major potential in both characters. Quite a few here are pretty sure at least one's going to bite it. That would be a very Togashi way to go, but I'm still betting a deathless outcome.
If one goes, though, it's Chrollo. He's controlling the fight now, but Hisoka has shown the ability to swing fights and he's far more important now.
Ultra Numb
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50/50 I think.
An editor or someone with Jump said before the Hiatus that one of the most top 3 shocking moments in all of the Manga is coming up soon... it could be that one of these two die.
One could argue that the prospect of the fight happening is the shock but I feel like most figured it was going to happen eventually, it was more a question of when and how.
The fact that we've been taken out of developing this major arc to finally do this fight as a complete side thing is shocking in and of itself. I was expecting it to play into the story far more directly.
Ultra Numb
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Top 3 shocking though? Naww. That's quite the claim..
I think because DC was halted so sudden means that one of them may be dying.
We're also assuming that this fight is what he's referring to and that plans have not changed during the hiatus. I could easily see Togashi pushing back whatever shocking moment they were referring to and inserted this fight earlier to throw fans a bone for waiting. We'll see.
darkwing-buck
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My bet is that HIsoka is not gonna die but he's gonna get fucked up, wouldn't be surprised Chrollo dies though.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Hisoka will realize he can't win at some point and will fake being hit with the Sun & Moon marking via his Texture Surprise. Thus Hisoka will "join" the spiders (due to having an fake unmovable bomb on him) on the trip to the DC thus bringing us back to the whale ship mystery crusie.
Fucking loving this fight, it's so tense. Togashi is taking one these men's life. I still have a gut feeling that Hisoka is taking this, but Christ how?! Chrollo has marked the shit out of those puppets with Sun and Moon, which feels incredibly threatening. But I just don't think it's Hisoka's time to die.
Oh my god! Hisoka is Monkey D. Luffy!
SoulUnison
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I hope nobody dies in this fight, and I don't think if would really serve any narrative purpose for either of them to.
UNLESS one of them manages to kill the other, showing off what a clever and versatile bastard he is, and then the winner tags along on the Dark Continent trip and is absolutely DESTROYED by one of the very first things they come up against to show that the DC is absolutely not to be taken lightly.
Frankly it could go either way. Hisoka could win and then tag along on the trip for the promise of incredibly strong mystery creatures + the possibility of Gon, or Chrollo could take the fight and then end up on the trip because of something he wants/needs to settle with Kurapika.
There's a ton of ways this could go, but I hope whatever we're missing manifests soon and the fight gets settled non-fatally, because both characters have a ton of potential and storyline and this doesn't feel like the right place to drop either of them.
Jigolo
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Seriously. The different levels to the fight are just incredible.
His writing hasn't waned one bit.
Reading Bleach after this is hilarious. It's hard to believe they are in the same magazine.
Permanently A
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I feel like shocking by Togashi standards is that they both kill each other
SoulUnison
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It's such a weird comment to make, though, like...
Does the guy that said it have a rough outline of the entire series?
Does Togashi already know how this all generally "ends," and what the main fights and story beats are?
Does he mean "shocking" "against the event so far?" In which case, what are the other two, to him?
Permanently A
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the editor said "huge shocking moment" that would be "top 3 worst" in HxH.
That to me implies death of beloved characters. And I think he meant thus far, not across all of HxH past present and future.
The Silver
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My mind would melt trying to fight Chrollo, fuck that shit Hisoka is nuts for seeking this out. Silva had the right idea, too troublesome.
Holy shit HxH is incredible.
Ultra Numb
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It's crazy to me that Ging is probably overall stronger than Hisoka and Chrollo combined. Top 5 Nen user for a reason, unless those two are also in that list? Don't think so though.
darkwing-buck
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Is this actually true? We don't know GIng's real ability right? Then again top 5 is nothing to scoff at.
Ultra Numb
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Saying that he's stronger than Hisoka and Chrollo combined is just my speculation based on his overwhelming hype. He was mentioned that he's a top 5 Nen user on the planet, earlier on the series, I forgot by whom... might of been Bisky.
Sounds... good and wouldn't surprise me so it won't happen, but good thought.
agentofatlas
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Man this fight is intense. Had to re-read the chapter twice lol.
I really like the difference between Chrollo and Hisoka, in that Chrollo has a hundred abilities at his disposal vs Hisoka has 2 abilities but is very versatile and adaptive with them.
I really like the difference between Chrollo and Hisoka, in that Chrollo has a hundred abilities at his disposal vs Hisoka has 2 abilities but is very versatile and adaptive with them.
Was that fron the Chrillo vs Silva/Zeno fight?
I doubt Chrollo have all those abilities on this Hisoka fight back then.
agentofatlas
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It was mentioned there I think. Silva killed one of the spiders in a past mission where he also fought Chrollo.
Ultra Numb
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Pretty sure he said something like to his sons: "Don't engage them unless you absolutely have too. They're strong" regarding the Spiders overall. It was from Killua's perspective, remembering his old mans words.
I think back then Silva was actually stronger than Chrollo. He looks to be surpassed now but its to be seen if other characters will also get an upgrade.
Define "strong".
For what we know, he might be considered strong simply by his deep knowledge of Nen and versatility (after all he copied Leorio's ability after witnessing it once), not necessarily by raw power. But he's the father of the protagonist so i'm sure he is super solid in combat.
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