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[Tommie Hu$tle]

Wasn't Biloxi erased from the map? That seems pretty bad to me. I'm not saying NO isn't bad, and is ongoingly bad, but a nice 15 minute part about those other places would be helpful to numerous people looking for news/info about those areas and the people that lived there.

It's bad but the difference between NO and Biloxi is that NO is literally cut off from the rest of the world both physically and electronically. Biloxi had great damage but the residents have more avenues to flee. NO unique situation of being a major city and below sea level is what makes it more "newsworthy".

 

[Red Scarlet]

But to the families of those victims, it's just as newsworthy. :/

NO is totally screwed and getting worse every day. But it is not the only place in the area that was affected, is all I'm saying. The other areas are by no means "back to normal".

 

[Phoenix]

Wasn't Biloxi erased from the map?

No. Waveland was erased from the map. Bay St. Louis was slightly better. Biloxi was severly damaged.

That seems pretty bad to me. I'm not saying NO isn't bad, and is ongoingly bad, but a nice 15 minute part about those other places would be helpful to numerous people looking for news/info about those areas and the people that lived there.

CNN has most absolutely been giving special coverage to these places. They have personnel IN these places and have been broadcasting from them.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

But to the families of those victims, it's just as newsworthy. :/

NO is totally screwed and getting worse every day. But it is not the only place in the area that was affected, is all I'm saying. The other areas are by no means "back to normal".

I don't disagree with you at all. But, NO is something that the rest of America can identify wth.

 

[Doth Togo]

John Titor.

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

No. Waveland was erased from the map. Bay St. Louis was slightly better. Biloxi was severly damaged.



CNN has most absolutely been giving special coverage to these places. They have personnel IN these places and have been broadcasting from them.

Yeah, Anderson Cooper for one is doing great coverage from Mississippi. Apparently he has family there so it's been a real emotional time for him.

 

[Red Scarlet]

CNN has most absolutely been giving special coverage to these places. They have personnel IN these places and have been broadcasting from them.

Ah, ok. I was watching Fox until the other day, and haven't been able to watch much the last couple days.

I heard in Canton, GA that one store was selling gas for $6.35 a gallon, so "people won't buy it".

 

[Baron Aloha]

CNN has had the best coverage by far IMO.

Btw, the Anderson Cooper vid is back up at croocksandliars.com.

 

[The Chosen One]

Wow, the shit is really going to hit the fan soon for a lot of politicians and agencies. A lot of on-location journalist are visibly pissed off on-air because aid and security are so slow to arrive. They're not buying the "everything is under control" line that politicians and agencies are touting. For once, I'm actually going to give the media some props. Some of them are actually doing their job.

What I also don't understand is how come journalist arrived at these hard hit locations over two days ago, but the national guard and aid is just arriving today? Like I said, the shit is going to hit the fan...

 

[TheKingsCrown]

It is very interesting that private enterprise is more organized than government, but I suppose capitalism contributes to that.

Perhaps the government can learn from the news organizations?

All I know, is my head aches from this situation. Once people are finally f'ing evacced to safety and we can focus on their care and assessing the integrity of NO, it will be a big weight off the shoulders of the situation.

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

What I also don't understand is how come journalist arrived at these hard hit locations over two days ago, but the national guard and aid is just arriving today? Like I said, the shit is going to hit the fan...

Most of those journalist have actually been there days before Katrina even hit. And you are right, alot of the on-site reporters are just as frustrated with the situation as the refugees. Especially Shepard Smith(?) over on Fox News, whose coverage is the most no holds barred of all the stations. He's definitely been questioning the government's handling of this whole situation.

 

[Phoenix]

It is very interesting that private enterprise is more organized than government, but I suppose capitalism contributes to that.

Perhaps the government can learn from the news organizations?

Lesson #1 - if you have something "newsworthy" about to be on your doorstep, have people in place to be ready to respond to it.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Lesson #1 - if you have something "newsworthy" about to be on your doorstep, have people in place to be ready to respond to it.

Heh. Perhaps Lesson #1 for the gov't would be the same thing except with "emergency-worthy" placed in your quotes.

 

[Mupepe]

Well, I'm not going to Louisiana for a while now. A team was sent in first to set up and they've been shot at, attacked etc. So they're waiting for a bit. I'll probably end up doing security at the astrodome, that could be interesting.... right??

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

Well I don't see angry mobs of people scoring ak-47's over at Astrodome's doorsteps.

 

[BorkBork]

The looting and the pillaging of a major US city... I thought I would never see the day.

Reminds me of a quote I heard before:
"They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have an anarchy."

And it's true, isn't it?

 

[ToxicAdam]

The looting and the pillaging of a major US city... I thought I would never see the day.
?

Seems to happen every 10-15 years actually.

 

[Mupepe]

Well I don't see angry mobs of people scoring ak-47's over at Astrodome's doorsteps.

Oh they're packin

 

[Grizzlyjin]

God, I can't believe what I'm seeing on the news. There was no way I could finish my dinner after seeing a starving and dehydrated baby on the news. I'm going to donate as much as I can, so many sad stories.

 

[Phoenix]

Heh. Perhaps Lesson #1 for the gov't would be the same thing except with "emergency-worthy" placed in your quotes.

Yeah that's what I mean. If CNN is sending large numbers of satellite trucks into your region, you might want to think "hmmm.... how prepared am I if this turns to shit really quick"

 

[ToxicAdam]

I don't disagree with you at all. But, NO is something that the rest of America can identify wth.

You mean the situation in NO is more sensational and dramatic. That's what America relates to.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

You mean the situation in NO is more sensational and dramatic. That's what America relates to.

It is, you are right. But I also think we need to examine this within the confines of disaster. A major U.S. city has never really been under water before, has it?

 

[Mupepe]

It is, you are right. But I also think we need to examine this within the confines of disaster. A major U.S. city has never really been under water before, has it?

Houston, TX in the summer of 2002. My house was under water for 3 days. Though it cleared up much faster than NO.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

God, I can't believe what I'm seeing on the news. There was no way I could finish my dinner after seeing a starving and dehydrated baby on the news. I'm going to donate as much as I can, so many sad stories.

I'm not trying to derail this thread or anything...but babies starve everyday in other parts of the world.. I guess when it hits close to home it really hits us...out of sight out of mind I guess.. We're all guilty of it.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Houston, TX in the summer of 2002. My house was under water for 3 days. Though it cleared up much faster than NO

Good point. I guess the thing that creates more permanence for me about NO is that Lake Pontchartrain is now Lake New Orleans, and it isn't like the water will evaporate or withdraw.

 

[isamu]

I think it's safe to say this catastrophe dwarfs 911 as far as scale and magnitude.

What the fuck? There are reports of several women being raped inside the Superdome.

I cannot believe what I have been seeing on broadcast television. There was a reporter on Fox that briefly showed what appeared to be a woman on the ground struggling with a thug who was attempting to rip her clothes off. NOBODY came to her aid and people were just walking by and staring! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY?

Btw, the Anderson Cooper vid is back up at croocksandliars.com.

I cannot access the croocksandliars.com site. Do you have a direct link to the vid?

 

[Red Scarlet]

Try crooksandliars.com.

It's about the 3rd thing down.

 

[AirBrian]

Dallas and San Antonio are going to take 25,000 refugees a piece in addition to Houston's 25,000. For anyone in the Dallas area who wants to help volunteer, they will be staying at Reunion Arena and the Convention Center. Red Cross said the refugees started to arrive today, but they expect many, many more to arrive tomorrow.

 

[Fix]

I posted it a page back.

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

the movie still isn't loading.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I'm not trying to derail this thread or anything...but babies starve everyday in other parts of the world.. I guess when it hits close to home it really hits us...out of sight out of mind I guess.. We're all guilty of it.

Yeah, that is something I hate to admit...but it's 100% true. You see those commercials with dying children in Africa and it barely phases you after awhile.

It really takes something like this to open your eyes. The whole Hurricane Katrina aftermath didn't even hit to me until yesterday. I was so busy at work that I hadn't been watching the news at all. Now I've finally gotten the chance to actually talk with refugees, and it is finally hitting me.

 

[Red Scarlet]

the movie still isn't loading.

Give it a little bit of time to load. Supposedly, the site is being hammered.

 

[AirBrian]

The Senate passed $10.5 billion in emergency relief. The House will vote (and pass it) tomorrow at noon.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050902/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_washington

 

[Red Scarlet]

That senator lady (and in #ga) said that the thing was already passed earlier tonight.

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

Yeah, it loaded up. Watching right now. Anderson pretty much broke down on her and for all the right reasons.

 

[Red Scarlet]

She said nothing of use at all, absolutely useless.

 

[DjangoReinhardt]

Anyone else notice that the LA senator slips into her accent only after Anderson Cooper tears into her: "Ah have the anger inside me." Vile wench.

There has been a complete breakdown of basic function from all levels of government, and there won't be consequences for any of them. What happens at the next disaster? The next hurricane? Does the average, rational American have any faith in the present government's ability to handle a crisis (read: do more than make jingoistic speeches on TV)? Are people just going to go apeshit right away from now on?

 

[Red Scarlet]

Earlier, some guy said that 40% of the NO police force abandoned..wonder if that was ever confirmed.

 

[wobedraggled]

What this has taught me is that if there is ever a disaster, do not relay on the government to help out in a decent fashion.

 

[Phoenix]

Soldiers fresh from Iraq - about 300 count are coming to New Orleans in the next few hours with the rules of engagement that they can engage these assholes who have been shooting at medical workers, helicopters, and carjacking folks.

 

[Slurpy]

God, I can't believe what I'm seeing on the news. There was no way I could finish my dinner after seeing a starving and dehydrated baby on the news. I'm going to donate as much as I can, so many sad stories.

With all due respect- either you're extremely isolated- or I dunno. Not to take any weight from the situation, but I hope it isn't the 1st time you're seeing a starving baby on the news.

 

[dem]

Soldiers fresh from Iraq - about 300 count are coming to New Orleans in the next few hours with the rules of engagement that they can engage these assholes who have been shooting at medical workers, helicopters, and carjacking folks.

Nice

 

[ManaByte]

Soldiers fresh from Iraq - about 300 count are coming to New Orleans in the next few hours with the rules of engagement that they can engage these assholes who have been shooting at medical workers, helicopters, and carjacking folks.

Fuck yea. One, I can't wait for those assholes to get what's coming to them and I can't WAIT to see the backlash this will cause.

 

[Cloudy]

Ted Koppell was just grilling some official on ABC right now...

 

[blahness]

Soldiers fresh from Iraq - about 300 count are coming to New Orleans in the next few hours with the rules of engagement that they can engage these assholes who have been shooting at medical workers, helicopters, and carjacking folks.

sweet... i hope they take them out. I wonder how many people have died at their hands or have died because of the aid that didnt get to its destination because of these assholes.

 

[Hitokage]

What this has taught me is that if there is ever a disaster, do not relay on the government to help out in a decent fashion.

To be fair, we're dealing with the NO government which has a notoriety for corruption if I'm not mistaken... and then there's the current federal government which I don't need to elaborate on.

 

[GG-Duo]

wow, it's as if mary landrieu has no soul in her body

 

[Grizzlyjin]

With all due respect- either you're extremely isolated- or I dunno. Not to take any weight from the situation, but I hope it isn't the 1st time you're seeing a starving baby on the news.

No, I'm not isolated or sheltered. I've just been working very long hours for the past week, so I was out of the Katrina loop. I knew about the storm, but I didn't realize that it had gotten that bad.

I'm a news junkie, so seeing a dying baby on the news isn't a new thing, as sad as that sounds. But you rarely see an American baby dying on tv...

 

[Ninja Scooter]

holy shit they are turning away buses full of people at the Astrodome and telling them to find another city and its nowhere NEAR the 25,000 capacity they claimed it would. Fuckin terrible for these people. They are gonna riot and after all the bullshit they've endured, i don't blame them one bit.

 

[Cloudy]

They are supposed to be moving some more folks to SA