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Hurricane Katrina Thread: Any LA Gaffers?

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http://www.fromtheroots.org/story/2005/9/3/19542/97952
But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast - black and white, rich and poor, young annd old - deserve far better from their national governmeent.
Mary Landrieu (LA senator) is claiming that the equipment present while Bush was surveying the levees yesterday has now mysteriously disappeared.

After her initial interviews I'm not sure how much credibility I give her, but if the equipment has been removed for no good reason without finishing the job...
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Oh shit...

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/politics/12548040.htm
In St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes, just south of New Orleans, victims of the hurricane are still waiting for food and water and for buses to escape the floodwaters, [ Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-La.] said. And for the entire time Bush was in the state, the congressman said, a ban on helicopter flights further stalled the delivery of food and supplies.
 
AB 101 said:
More fodder eh?

I had forgotten why you were on my ignore list, and took you off a few weeks ago. You're pretty sane on the gaming board, but basically an amoral asshole over here. Welcome back!
 
Dan said:
http://www.fromtheroots.org/story/2005/9/3/19542/97952

Mary Landrieu (LA senator) is claiming that the equipment present while Bush was surveying the levees yesterday has now mysteriously disappeared.

After her initial interviews I'm not sure how much credibility I give her, but if the equipment has been removed for no good reason without finishing the job...
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Oh shit...

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/politics/12548040.htm

W is coming back this weekend. :(
 
heidern said:
You're looking at this the wrong way. There are 2 entirely seperate issues. Pre-disaster and post-disaster. Pre-disaster certainly you can blame the local authorities. I have no knowledge of specifics such as what powers and responsibilities Nagin has, so I can't say whether he is to blame or not. But the New Orleans authorities and the people within them didn't prepare as good as they should have. The same applies to the federal government. However all this can be blamed on a political culture problem, hindsight is always 20/20, and it really is just typical politics. There is also a case to be made that local authorities were powerless because of a shortfall in funding, which would put the greater blame on the government.

The real issue is post disaster. It looks like Nagin has done as good a job as he could. In fact he seems to be the one politician that actually had a grasp of reality. However everyone else, including Bush, Cheney and the others have failed. They should have been focusing on this as much as or more than they focused on 9/11. They should have been working round the clock on this disaster from the moment it became clear that major damage was done(within hours of it striking). The same applies to many organisations working below them.

There has been, put simply, a mass dereliction of duty. You don't pussyfoot around when there's a natural disaster. In doing so, well, every one hour delay can means 100s of people dead who could have been saved.

The "real" issue, post-disaster, is signifigantly influenced by pre-disaster planning, which at first glance Nagin seems to have executed rather shabbily. I'm not blaming Nagin for the levees built to withstand cat3 hurricanes; to do so would be as foolish as blaming him for New Orleans being built under sea level back in the 1700s. But there were at least 2 obvious things he could've done to help blunt this disaster's edge. The Superdome wasn't properly equipped. Why not? Evacuation wasn't ordered until 1 day prior to Katrina and no signifigant effort was made to get the poor out of the city. Why not? Nagin is probably doing as good of a job as he possibly can given the circumstances, some of which he created for himself.

I'm pretty much in agreement with everything you've said. I just think there are decisions Nagin made that signifigantly affected New Orleans post-disaster -- decisions that we shouldn't forget. However, like you've said, all that happened pre-disaster is in the past. Nagin's coping with these problems on a realistic level while other government officials and agencies remain ignorant to New Orleans' plight.

Ok, you're right. I should've thought this through before replying. :)
 
Been called it all today. :)

Thanks nice people.

Do not really appreciate being called amoral,er immoral.

Was Down at our church today in Houston. We have taken in some people from Louisiana.


But I guess if you support the president, you earn the label.
 
AB 101 said:
Been called it all today. :)

Thanks nice people.

Do not really appreciate being called amoral,er immoral.

Was Down at our church today in Houston. We have taken in some people from Louisiana.


But I guess if you support the president, you earn the label.

Not to mention deserve it.
 
The Independent of Britain claims the U.S. government expects New Orleans to be empty for nine months.

The Independent said:
Officials said that the job of recovering, let alone counting, the dead may not start for weeks. The death toll is likely to far exceed the numbers killed in the 11 September attacks almost exactly four years ago. Sergeant Nicholas Stahl of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness said that rescuers are focusing on finding an estimated 50,000 people still stranded by the flood waters and admitted "there is no system to collect and store bodies".

The Independent also carried the Secretary of State subplot, saying, "The criticism is all the sharper because the President did nothing to alter his holiday schedule for 48 hours. Vice-President Dick Cheney remains on holiday in Wyoming. Condoleezza Rice, the Secretary of State, returned to Washington after being seen shopping for $7,000 shoes in Manhattan as New Orleans went under."

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Agence France-Presse reports that National Guardsmen were seen playing cards while police were looking for evacuees and getting attacked by lawless thugs in the remains of New Orleans. Source includes a NOLA police official. Yahoo! and AFP.
 
I half agree with benstein and half not, actually right down the middle 1-5 agree, 5-12 not so much

On one hand, they did have fair warning (Far more then the 3 hour warning I had with Chaley, in which evacuation was not an option).
It was a mandatory evacuation, they should have left, I have sympathy for them, but not as much as if it was a voluntary evacuation or they had less time.

However, you can also turn that statement around. Since we had ample warning, things should have been moving As the hurricane was hitting. It's not as if there was a question if the hurricane was hitting and at what strength, but rather when and where. IMO that falls on the shoulders of the mayor, governer and president.
 
AB 101 said:
But I guess if you support the president, you earn the label.

He is your representative, chosen to represent the state and protect your citizenry. It is his obligation to support you, not the other way around, never.

To be perfectly honest I always thought you neo-cons were lousy callous bastards out to fuck over the poor and line your pockets at every conceivable opportunity, but this week has made that all the more evident. You have the temerity to run around spouting democracy when you don't even know the fucking meaning of the word; a principle of democracy is not to abandon the most vulnerable members of your society to death, disease, starvation, indignity and lawlessness. It’s not about race, it’s about class and under the neo-conservative ideology the poor may as well get fucked.

I think you don't even deserve to live in a democracy, you don't deserve that privilege; and from what I've seen this week I'm now truly convinced you don't. America is and has always been a callous plutocracy with a corrupt illusion of choice draped over the top. That is now more evident than ever.
 
I just learned that my dad just flew out to help as a physician with the refugees coming to Arkansas. Sure he's not at ground zero, but I'm still concerned about him with his bad heart when he hasn't taken care of patients in years.
 
In St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes, just south of New Orleans, victims of the hurricane are still waiting for food and water and for buses to escape the floodwaters, [ Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-La.] said. And for the entire time Bush was in the state, the congressman said, a ban on helicopter flights further stalled the delivery of food and supplies.

This is what I was trying to explain to you jackasses the day Bush did his "flyover". Presidential visits are a logistical nightmare and do more harm than any good. But all of you think that symbolism means something .. so I guessing this will fall on deaf ears again.
 
Suikoguy said:
However, you can also turn that statement around. Since we had ample warning, things should have been moving As the hurricane was hitting. It's not as if there was a question if the hurricane was hitting and at what strength, but rather when and where. IMO that falls on the shoulders of the mayor, governer and president.

The necessary public support and infrastructure should have been in place to move the poor and the sick and elderly to safer areas before the storm even hit so this whole shitstorm would never have happened. Cuba evacuated over a million people to safe shelters when Hurricane Dennis went over the island in July, China recently evacuated 800,000 of its people out of the way of a dangerous typhoon.

What we saw here was an 'every man for himself' mentality which was the basis of the 'mandatory' evacuation. A situation where the middle and upper classes with the means were able to escape and the less fortunate had to stay behind because they lacked the necessary means. That these people were not provided for before the hurricane even hit was an even greater failure then the apathetic and pathetic relief effort afterwards.
 
xabre said:
What we saw here was an 'every man for himself' mentality which was the basis of the 'mandatory' evacuation. A situation where the middle and upper classes with the means we able to escape and the less fortunate had to stay behind because they lacked the necessary means. That these people were not provided for before the hurricane even hit was even greater failure then the apathetic and pathetic relief effort afterwards.

I won't disagree there, there were few ways outta the city other then car. But the people with the mentality to ride it out in their own home..

There was however no excuse for the lack of support for the offical storm shelters though, as I previously mentioned the minute that became a category 5 things should have been set in motion. There was no question this was gonna be ugly.

I'd be interested to see exactly when things "Started Moving".
 
xabre said:
The necessary public support and infrastructure should have been in place to move the poor and the sick and elderly to safer areas before the storm even hit so this whole shitstorm would never have happened. Cuba evacuated over a million people to safe shelters when Hurricane Dennis went over the island in July, China recently evacuated 800,000 of its people out of the way of a dangerous typhoon.



Maybe that's why the Federal Government should nationalize the National Guard (ironic name, eh?). So they can have them in position to do these things .. because its seems we can not trust the states.

It breaks my republican heart to say such a thing.
 
ToxicAdam said:
This is what I was trying to explain to you jackasses the day Bush did his "flyover". Presidential visits are a logistical nightmare and do more harm than any good. But all of you think that symbolism means something .. so I guessing this will fall on deaf ears again.
I certainly wasn't one that cared about Bush physically stopping by in the devastated areas. All I wanted was the administration to get off its ass and get to work, starting with the top fuckers cutting their vacations short. Considering everywhere Bush went consisted of orchestrated photo-ops, it's not like his presence meant a damn anyway. I just want our paid officials to actually be working.
 
While I certainly agree that the US goverenments handling of this crisis is piss poor, I have to laugh at these other countries newspapers calling them out on it. Like they'd do any better, seriously, I doubt any country on this planet could handle a catasrophe of this scale well either.
 
To be perfectly honest I always thought you neo-cons were lousy callous bastards out to fuck over the poor and line your pockets at every conceivable opportunity, but this week has made that all the more evident. You have the temerity to run around spouting democracy when you don't even know the fucking meaning of the word; a principle of democracy is not to abandon the most vulnerable members of your society to death, disease, starvation, indignity and lawlessness. It’s not about race, it’s about class and under the neo-conservative ideology the poor may as well get fucked.

First I think you need to look up the definition of neo-conservatism. ..which has nothing much really to do with class struggles or inequality...it's defined more by foreign policy.

And to be honest I think there's bad people out to screw the poor people, in both parties.
 
Does anyone have a timeline of the various out of state agencies and support as they were mobilized and sent into LA? Do we have a timeline of typical federal responses to aid requests for other major disasters?

I'm asking this because it seems to me (and I'm only speculating, mind you) that if the damage was done on Monday, federal support being collected and entering New Orleans in 48 hours seems reasonable, given the problems at hand. We'd all rather have instantaneous results, but 48 hours seems like a "normal" time frame for non-local response to a major catastrophe. Is it? I have no idea, but I'd like to find out.

The problem still seems to me to be that the local (city and state) response was chaotic and disorganized. The mayor of New Orleans appears to be completely incompetent, given the lack of proper preparation for the potentiality of a disaster... and the governor seems quite willing to blame everyone but her own state. At what point was the governor requesting help from Washington? What exactly was she requesting?

I really don't believe that anyone in authority is doing anything but the best they can do, given the circumstances, to deal with the problems... but you've got a huge expanse of land, flooded... a major city underwater and no "easy" way to search it. I can understand the banning of civilian rescue teams, especially with the armed idiots blasting away at anyone coming to help. Major search and rescue efforts have been underway since the second day after the hurricane, and they've ramped up over the past few days. I'm still of the opinion that the issue isn't a lack of support as much as it is the difficulty in getting support and supplies to the proper places. I'm making the wild assumption that there were so many problems at the convention center because it wasn't a planned evacuation spot and it would be much more difficult to ferry in supplies. They were barely getting goods to the Superdome.

Sorry, I'm not really sure why I'm writing much more at this point... the sheer anger and frustration expressed here is just getting to me, not to mention the obnoxious attempt at putting politics ahead of helping the people affected by the hurricane and the levees breaking. Everything I've seen seems to show a terrible situation made worse by no real preparation at the city or state level, and now the city, state, and federal governments are struggling to deal with the situation as best they can. Mistakes will be made, as folks are working "by the seat of their pants" -- but I refuse to believe the folks "in charge" did anything but their best in attempting to deal with all of this.

Maybe I'm hopelessly optimistic.
Maybe I'm (*gasp*) a Republican.
 
Diablos said:
There's always room over here.
Join us! :D


Nevaahhhh!! :0

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I posted this elsewhere:





I don't care about what should have been done ... but what needs to be done is this.


1) All authorities (local and state) need to get OFF the grid. Meaning backup sattelite phone services, reserves of gas/food/water and power generators located in safe areas.

2) Nationalize the National Guard. It pains me as a Republican to take away a State right ... but LA has failed.

3) Break FEMA away from Homeland Security. It needs to be autonomous so it can act quicker and more effectively. FEMA doesn't benefit by being in under the same umbrella as the FBI or CIA.



Those are the major points.
 
Lardbutt said:
First I think you need to look up the definition of neo-conservatism. ..which has nothing much really to do with class struggles or inequality...it's defined more by foreign policy.

The economic foundation of neo-conservatism is neo-liberalism and you better damn well believe that neo-liberalism has at its foundation class inequality driven by pro-corporate interests, small government and reduced social spending.

And to be honest I think there's bad people out to screw the poor people, in both parties.

I agree, fuck both of them but fuck Bush and his cronies even more.
 
people, volunteer if you can. take time off of work even, you should still be able to make rent.

Red Cross will give you...

$340 allowence for every 10 days you're there.
$150 to get supplies (sleeping bag, boots, flash light, etc).
Shelter and food

they need all the help they can get, and they'll give you a round trip plane ticket. looks like im heading out on wednesday.

if you can, please do so. the red cross is making this very easy, all you have to do is go.
 
phantomile co. said:
they need all the help they can get, and they'll give you a round trip plane ticket. looks like im heading out on wednesday.

If they paid for a round plane trip from Sydney I'd go, but I doubt they'd be so generous.
 
ToxicAdam said:
Nevaahhhh!! :0

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I posted this elsewhere:





I don't care about what should have been done ... but what needs to be done is this.


1) All authorities (local and state) need to get OFF the grid. Meaning backup sattelite phone services, reserves of gas/food/water and power generators located in safe areas.

2) Nationalize the National Guard. It pains me as a Republican to take away a State right ... but LA has failed.

3) Break FEMA away from Homeland Security. It needs to be autonomous so it can act quicker and more effectively. FEMA doesn't benefit by being in under the same umbrella as the FBI or CIA.



Those are the major points.


The FBI ad the CIA are't part of DHS. They're in DOJ and (I believe) the SD, respectivly.

I do agree with your first point though.
 
Mashing said:
While I certainly agree that the US goverenments handling of this crisis is piss poor, I have to laugh at these other countries newspapers calling them out on it. Like they'd do any better, seriously, I doubt any country on this planet could handle a catasrophe of this scale well either.

Any 'developed' country I could care to name would certainly have handled it a lot better. Don't you see the levels of ridiculousness that happened here? Bush was MAKING JOKES ABOUT VISITING THE AREA while maybe 10,000+ people died. That's Americans. For months people are going to be opening up attic spaces and finding bloated, blue bodies of entire families WHILE YOUR PRESIDENT JOKED ABOUT IT.

You dare to say that any other leader would have done that?
 
CNN: Levees should be plugged by tomorrow night.

Thus begins the long, harsh road...

CNN IS LAMBASTING CHERTOFF! Holy Crap! THEY ARE DISPROVING HIS POINTS POINT BY POINT!
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
CNN: Levees should be plugged by tomorrow night.

Thus begins the long, harsh road...

CNN IS LAMBASTING CHERTOFF! Holy Crap! THEY ARE DISPROVING HIS POINTS POINT BY POINT!

So did Tim Russert on Meet the Press.
 
JetSetHero said:
Bush was MAKING JOKES ABOUT VISITING THE AREA while maybe 10,000+ people died. That's Americans. For months people are going to be opening up attic spaces and finding bloated, blue bodies of entire families WHILE YOUR PRESIDENT JOKED ABOUT IT.

You wouldn't happen to have a link to a video of that would you?
 
Chertoff is a communist / socialist. he is evil to the core - that's WHY he replaced
Tom Ridge as head of 'homeland security'
 
Baron Aloha said:
You wouldn't happen to have a link to a video of that would you?

I think that joke was about Trent Lott, who would rebuild in Mississippi and with a great porch for the President to sit on! Which was very nice of him in front of people who may never have another home in Mississippi.
 
hope that Rehnquist's death does not take away from the mistakes that have been made with handling this disaster

Rehnquist has definitely been an important person in American history, and is important in terms of his position as supreme court justice. However, I would be shocked if his story can grab the news channels for more than a day or two, as a number of citizens possibly thousands of times his one life have died in a matter of a few days. And if it does overshadow it, we shouldn't let it...as one is unable to compare the effects of both stories.

Edit: Just after I wrote the above, CNN changed their main story to Katrina.
 
GAF folks, I'm heading from Houston to Corpus Christi to get some relatives from there which were recently located (my aunt who was hiding in a closet during the storm). And I've found my 83 year old Uncle Robert has been located in a hospital in San Antonio. From there I will return to Houston and then on Monday or Tuesday will be heading back to Atlanta - skirting around New Orleans. Network connectivity is so iffy here so I can't upload images or anything, but I will hopefully be back home in a few days...
 
TheKingsCrown said:
Rehnquist has definitely been an important person in American history, and is important in terms of his position as supreme court justice. However, I would be shocked if his story can grab the news channels for more than a day or two, as a number of citizens possibly thousands of times his one life have died in a matter of a few days. And if it does overshadow it, we shouldn't let it...as one is unable to compare the effects of both stories.

Edit: Just after I wrote the above, CNN changed their main story to Katrina.

Every Sunday morning show I've seen either paid lip service to Rehnquist (Russert must have spent only five minutes) or spent no time at all on the Chief Justice's death (McLaughlin Group). Wolf Blitzer right now gives Rehnquist only second place. Looks like the American press is holding on to New Orleans' corpse with both hands.
 
Phoenix said:
GAF folks, I'm heading from Houston to Corpus Christi to get some relatives from there which were recently located (my aunt who was hiding in a closet during the storm). And I've found my 83 year old Uncle Robert has been located in a hospital in San Antonio. From there I will return to Houston and then on Monday or Tuesday will be heading back to Atlanta - skirting around New Orleans. Network connectivity is so iffy here so I can't upload images or anything, but I will hopefully be back home in a few days...


I believe you do, but incase you don't have any extra webspace, or can't access your FTP, email me the pics at MiGBackup@gmail.com
I have 300 megs of webspace I haven't touched. Good luck.
 
Phoenix said:
GAF folks, I'm heading from Houston to Corpus Christi to get some relatives from there which were recently located (my aunt who was hiding in a closet during the storm). And I've found my 83 year old Uncle Robert has been located in a hospital in San Antonio. From there I will return to Houston and then on Monday or Tuesday will be heading back to Atlanta - skirting around New Orleans. Network connectivity is so iffy here so I can't upload images or anything, but I will hopefully be back home in a few days...

I'm sorry I missed your posts lately. I'm incredibly glad to see your relatives are as good as can be expected of them. Get home safe. :)
 
this was an interesting read

New Orleans: A Geopolitical Prize

By George Friedman

September 01, 2005 22 30 GMT -- The American political system was founded in Philadelphia, but the American nation was built on the vast farmlands that stretch from the Alleghenies to the Rockies. That farmland produced the wealth that funded American industrialization: It permitted the formation of a class of small landholders who, amazingly, could produce more than they could consume. They could sell their excess crops in the east and in Europe and save that money, which eventually became the founding capital of American industry.

But it was not the extraordinary land nor the farmers and ranchers who alone set the process in motion. Rather, it was geography -- the extraordinary system of rivers that flowed through the Midwest and allowed them to ship their surplus to the rest of the world. All of the rivers flowed into one -- the Mississippi -- and the Mississippi flowed to the ports in and around one city: New Orleans. It was in New Orleans that the barges from upstream were unloaded and their cargos stored, sold and reloaded on ocean-going vessels. Until last Sunday, New Orleans was, in many ways, the pivot of the American economy.

For that reason, the Battle of New Orleans in January 1815 was a key moment in American history. Even though the battle occurred after the War of 1812 was over, had the British taken New Orleans, we suspect they wouldn't have given it back. Without New Orleans, the entire Louisiana Purchase would have been valueless to the United States. Or, to state it more precisely, the British would control the region because, at the end of the day, the value of the Purchase was the land and the rivers - which all converged on the Mississippi and the ultimate port of New Orleans. The hero of the battle was Andrew Jackson, and when he became president, his obsession with Texas had much to do with keeping the Mexicans away from New Orleans.

During the Cold War, a macabre topic of discussion among bored graduate students who studied such things was this: If the Soviets could destroy one city with a large nuclear device, which would it be? The usual answers were Washington or New York. For me, the answer was simple: New Orleans. If the Mississippi River was shut to traffic, then the foundations of the economy would be shattered. The industrial minerals needed in the factories wouldn't come in, and the agricultural wealth wouldn't flow out. Alternative routes really weren't available. The Germans knew it too: A U-boat campaign occurred near the mouth of the Mississippi during World War II. Both the Germans and Stratfor have stood with Andy Jackson: New Orleans was the prize.

Last Sunday, nature took out New Orleans almost as surely as a nuclear strike. Hurricane Katrina's geopolitical effect was not, in many ways, distinguishable from a mushroom cloud. The key exit from North America was closed. The petrochemical industry, which has become an added value to the region since Jackson's days, was at risk. The navigability of the Mississippi south of New Orleans was a question mark. New Orleans as a city and as a port complex had ceased to exist, and it was not clear that it could recover.

The ports of South Louisiana and New Orleans, which run north and south of the city, are as important today as at any point during the history of the republic. On its own merit, the Port of South Louisiana is the largest port in the United States by tonnage and the fifth-largest in the world. It exports more than 52 million tons a year, of which more than half are agricultural products -- corn, soybeans and so on. A larger proportion of U.S. agriculture flows out of the port. Almost as much cargo, nearly 57 million tons, comes in through the port -- including not only crude oil, but chemicals and fertilizers, coal, concrete and so on.

A simple way to think about the New Orleans port complex is that it is where the bulk commodities of agriculture go out to the world and the bulk commodities of industrialism come in. The commodity chain of the global food industry starts here, as does that of American industrialism. If these facilities are gone, more than the price of goods shifts: The very physical structure of the global economy would have to be reshaped. Consider the impact to the U.S. auto industry if steel doesn't come up the river, or the effect on global food supplies if U.S. corn and soybeans don't get to the markets.

The problem is that there are no good shipping alternatives. River transport is cheap, and most of the commodities we are discussing have low value-to-weight ratios. The U.S. transport system was built on the assumption that these commodities would travel to and from New Orleans by barge, where they would be loaded on ships or offloaded. Apart from port capacity elsewhere in the United States, there aren't enough trucks or rail cars to handle the long-distance hauling of these enormous quantities -- assuming for the moment that the economics could be managed, which they can't be.

The focus in the media has been on the oil industry in Louisiana and Mississippi. This is not a trivial question, but in a certain sense, it is dwarfed by the shipping issue. First, Louisiana is the source of about 15 percent of U.S.-produced petroleum, much of it from the Gulf. The local refineries are critical to American infrastructure. Were all of these facilities to be lost, the effect on the price of oil worldwide would be extraordinarily painful. If the river itself became unnavigable or if the ports are no longer functioning, however, the impact to the wider economy would be significantly more severe. In a sense, there is more flexibility in oil than in the physical transport of these other commodities.

There is clearly good news as information comes in. By all accounts, the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, which services supertankers in the Gulf, is intact. Port Fourchon, which is the center of extraction operations in the Gulf, has sustained damage but is recoverable. The status of the oil platforms is unclear and it is not known what the underwater systems look like, but on the surface, the damage - though not trivial -- is manageable.

The news on the river is also far better than would have been expected on Sunday. The river has not changed its course. No major levees containing the river have burst. The Mississippi apparently has not silted up to such an extent that massive dredging would be required to render it navigable. Even the port facilities, although apparently damaged in many places and destroyed in few, are still there. The river, as transport corridor, has not been lost.

What has been lost is the city of New Orleans and many of the residential suburban areas around it. The population has fled, leaving behind a relatively small number of people in desperate straits. Some are dead, others are dying, and the magnitude of the situation dwarfs the resources required to ameliorate their condition. But it is not the population that is trapped in New Orleans that is of geopolitical significance: It is the population that has left and has nowhere to return to.

The oil fields, pipelines and ports required a skilled workforce in order to operate. That workforce requires homes. They require stores to buy food and other supplies. Hospitals and doctors. Schools for their children. In other words, in order to operate the facilities critical to the United States, you need a workforce to do it -- and that workforce is gone. Unlike in other disasters, that workforce cannot return to the region because they have no place to live. New Orleans is gone, and the metropolitan area surrounding New Orleans is either gone or so badly damaged that it will not be inhabitable for a long time.

It is possible to jury-rig around this problem for a short time. But the fact is that those who have left the area have gone to live with relatives and friends. Those who had the ability to leave also had networks of relationships and resources to manage their exile. But those resources are not infinite -- and as it becomes apparent that these people will not be returning to New Orleans any time soon, they will be enrolling their children in new schools, finding new jobs, finding new accommodations. If they have any insurance money coming, they will collect it. If they have none, then -- whatever emotional connections they may have to their home -- their economic connection to it has been severed. In a very short time, these people will be making decisions that will start to reshape population and workforce patterns in the region.

A city is a complex and ongoing process - one that requires physical infrastructure to support the people who live in it and people to operate that physical infrastructure. We don't simply mean power plants or sewage treatment facilities, although they are critical. Someone has to be able to sell a bottle of milk or a new shirt. Someone has to be able to repair a car or do surgery. And the people who do those things, along with the infrastructure that supports them, are gone -- and they are not coming back anytime soon.

It is in this sense, then, that it seems almost as if a nuclear weapon went off in New Orleans. The people mostly have fled rather than died, but they are gone. Not all of the facilities are destroyed, but most are. It appears to us that New Orleans and its environs have passed the point of recoverability. The area can recover, to be sure, but only with the commitment of massive resources from outside -- and those resources would always be at risk to another Katrina.

The displacement of population is the crisis that New Orleans faces. It is also a national crisis, because the largest port in the United States cannot function without a city around it. The physical and business processes of a port cannot occur in a ghost town, and right now, that is what New Orleans is. It is not about the facilities, and it is not about the oil. It is about the loss of a city's population and the paralysis of the largest port in the United States.

Let's go back to the beginning. The United States historically has depended on the Mississippi and its tributaries for transport. Barges navigate the river. Ships go on the ocean. The barges must offload to the ships and vice versa. There must be a facility to empower this exchange. It is also the facility where goods are stored in transit. Without this port, the river can't be used. Protecting that port has been, from the time of the Louisiana Purchase, a fundamental national security issue for the United States.

Katrina has taken out the port -- not by destroying the facilities, but by rendering the area uninhabited and potentially uninhabitable. That means that even if the Mississippi remains navigable, the absence of a port near the mouth of the river makes the Mississippi enormously less useful than it was. For these reasons, the United States has lost not only its biggest port complex, but also the utility of its river transport system -- the foundation of the entire American transport system. There are some substitutes, but none with sufficient capacity to solve the problem.

It follows from this that the port will have to be revived and, one would assume, the city as well. The ports around New Orleans are located as far north as they can be and still be accessed by ocean-going vessels. The need for ships to be able to pass each other in the waterways, which narrow to the north, adds to the problem. Besides, the Highway 190 bridge in Baton Rouge blocks the river going north. New Orleans is where it is for a reason: The United States needs a city right there.

New Orleans is not optional for the United States' commercial infrastructure. It is a terrible place for a city to be located, but exactly the place where a city must exist. With that as a given, a city will return there because the alternatives are too devastating. The harvest is coming, and that means that the port will have to be opened soon. As in Iraq, premiums will be paid to people prepared to endure the hardships of working in New Orleans. But in the end, the city will return because it has to.

Geopolitics is the stuff of permanent geographical realities and the way they interact with political life. Geopolitics created New Orleans. Geopolitics caused American presidents to obsess over its safety. And geopolitics will force the city's resurrection, even if it is in the worst imaginable place.

http://www.stratfor.com/news/archive/050903-geopolitics_katrina.php
 
Why the FUCK is Donald Rumsfeld in New Orleans? Seriously. What the fuck does the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE have to do with a domestic natural disaster? Christ. The troops should be deployed under the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, who should have jurisdiction over FEMA. Donald Rumsfeld should have zero business in New Orleans. He's got other things to worry about... let him go focus on how to kill us a few thousand more soldiers, because not enough people have apparently died at the hands of this administrations' apathy so far.
 
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