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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition

Askia47 said:
Quick Question: I have Windows 7 RC on my new PC at home, can I install Windows 7 Professional over it? ( I don't care if it erases everything, I just want to get it installed)


As long as you're not going from 32->64 bit or vice versa then it should work fine.
 
Kinda off topic. I want an aditional expres. mostly for text applications, Does adding a cheap PCI (no express) video card would work?
 
It seems my q8300 has died, tried it at stock, upped voltage a bit and tried it in my older desktop and still very unstable so im looking to replace it. Dont really want to just get the same thing again so i may aswell upgrade.

Ive got £500 to spend but im looking to get a new motherboard, ram, case and the cpu out of that.Im wanting an i7 if possible and i could even extend my budget to £600. Motherboard would need to be ok for crossfire too, basically wanting the about as good as i can get for the money. Ive got my eye on a few things but could use some help.
 
Lonely1 said:
Kinda off topic. I want an aditional expres. mostly for text applications, Does adding a cheap PCI (no express) video card would work?

What? If your computer feels sluggish try adding more RAM first. A video card (PCIe, AGP or otherwise) isn't going to do a whole lot for you if all you're trying to do is run MS Word..

birdchili said:
any reason to go over an hd5770 for an i5/4gb ram rig running at 1280x1024?

At that resolution no way. I got a 5770 last week and I can almost run everything maxed at 1080p.
 
just got my 4GB of G.Skill ram :D got it installed and working perfectly fine. WOOT.

I refreshed my windows rating and it's 5.9. i need to replace my stock HDD. what's a good one for cheap?

with new HDD it should boost my rating up to 7.1.
 
DMPrince said:
just got my 4GB of G.Skill ram :D got it installed and working perfectly fine. WOOT.

I refreshed my windows rating and it's 5.9. i need to replace my stock HDD. what's a good one for cheap?

with new HDD it should boost my rating up to 7.1.
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB or Western Digital Black Caviar 1TB. But really, unless you're having problems or really couldn't find something else worth $80-$100, it's not worth replacing.
 
DMPrince said:
just got my 4GB of G.Skill ram :D got it installed and working perfectly fine. WOOT.

I refreshed my windows rating and it's 5.9. i need to replace my stock HDD. what's a good one for cheap?

with new HDD it should boost my rating up to 7.1.

You should be taking the windows rating as seriously as financial advice from a homeless person. Unless your HDD is dead/dying there isn't a need to replace it.
 
Odious Tea said:
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB or Western Digital Black Caviar 1TB. But really, unless you're having problems or really couldn't find something else worth $80-$100, it's not worth replacing.
well i'm running low on disk space (500GB isn't enough apparently) it's been almost 2 years. it's close to changing anyways.
 
DMPrince said:
well i'm running low on disk space (500GB isn't enough apparently) it's been almost 2 years. it's close to changing anyways.
If you really want to replace it, go with Samsung or WD for the 1TB varieties. But you could go a little longer if you clear some stuff out and defrag religiously.
 
Romance Pie said:
I have the same cpu as you and have been wondering the same, but it is only worth it if you can find a Q9550 really cheap.
Otherwise OC your E8500 and leave it for another year since it will run anything at a satisfactory level.
Save some cash and wait for the next round of tech.
Overclocking is an alternative, I guess. But it seems so much simpler to replace it, but yeah, can't go higher than the Core 2 series and they're either horribly overpriced or sold out.

I should've just got a better motherboard to begin with :lol. If I had looked it up before I wouldn't be so limited.

Looking at prices however, it doesn't seem that expensive to upgrade, a Core i5 -750 costs around 200 euros, which is around 100 euros cheaper than a Q9550.
Now if I put the extra 100 towards a new mobo I could upgrade without burning a giant flaming hole in my pocket.

Looking at the ASUS P755D but it seems to be more of a NVIDIA based mobo, with SLI and PhysX, but I'm not gonna use either SLI or Crossfire anyway so that shouldn't matter, it's not like it'll bottleneck my current GPU just beacuse it has Nvidia exclusive "features", right?

It's around 150 euro.

I think I really have my mind set on upgrading. It's more like I'm trying to convince myself rather than asking for advice :lol
 
My Dell m1530 is over 2 years old - I was looking into notebook cooling solutions today so I could overclock, but then it occurred to me that I might as well just wait 6 months to a year longer and build a new PC. I'm planning on going with the setup one of my friends has - desktop for general computing and and $200-$300 netbook (or even just keep my current m1530) for taking notes in class and portability. So I guess I'll go ahead and start putting together builds to possibly purchase this fall or early next year?

I'm totally behind the times since I built my last desktop ~6 years ago. Apparently ATI cards are better than Nvidia now? And Nvidia's numbering scheme has changed, so I'm not really sure what the best cards are any more (I've also never understood ATI's naming scheme).

I'm looking for something in the $500-$700 range (though this could be stretched) that would last me 2-3 years, at which time I could buy $200-$300 in new parts and eek another 18-24 months out of it. That being said, I almost never play the bleeding edge of PC games - I wait for steam sales :lol . But if my PC could handle it, I suppose it would make sense to start buying games for it instead of my 360. Also, I'd prefer not to have a monster full-tower...will it be possible to build a good rig inside a mid-tower? Here's the template:

Budget: $500-$700; I don't see the point in spending $1000+ on a PC when tech prices come down so quickly. In fact, compared to my laptop, I'd probably be impressed by the capabilities of a $400 budget machine :lol. Ideally I'm looking for the best balance of performance and price.

Main Use(s): Gaming, Web Surfing, Video Editing (& composting) with Premiere and After Effects

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 at the moment, though I usually crank my games down to 1440x900 or 1280x800 for performance :(

List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Team Fortress 2 and Trackmania are the games I have the most performance issues with at the moment. Wish I could run them smoothly. I'd like to be able to play newer games (Civ 5!) at mid-high settings - could encourage me to buy PC games instead of 360.

And just for perspective, here's what I'm gaming on right now:
Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 Ghz
4GB DDR2 RAM
Nvidia Geforce 8600m

YOW! Thanks for the help, GAF.

PS: how hard is it to install a CPU? It's the only component of a computer I've never assembled.
 
Easy_D said:
Overclocking is an alternative, I guess. But it seems so much simpler to replace it, but yeah, can't go higher than the Core 2 series and they're either horribly overpriced or sold out.

I should've just got a better motherboard to begin with :lol. If I had looked it up before I wouldn't be so limited.

Looking at prices however, it doesn't seem that expensive to upgrade, a Core i5 -750 costs around 200 euros, which is around 100 euros cheaper than a Q9550.
Now if I put the extra 100 towards a new mobo I could upgrade without burning a giant flaming hole in my pocket.

Looking at the ASUS P755D but it seems to be more of a NVIDIA based mobo, with SLI and PhysX, but I'm not gonna use either SLI or Crossfire anyway so that shouldn't matter, it's not like it'll bottleneck my current GPU just beacuse it has Nvidia exclusive "features", right?

It's around 150 euro.

I think I really have my mind set on upgrading. It's more like I'm trying to convince myself rather than asking for advice :lol

You just have the upgrade bug. I too have had the thought of upgrading to a i7 setup, but in the end the small performance boost wouldn't be worth spending the $650 NZD. Don't forget you would also have to buy new DDR3 ram as well.

Get a cooler that has upgrade options, I got a Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283 that has brackets that allow it to be attached to other sockets. And have a go at overclocking so you can increase your techyness. Nothing will really push your system over at the moment so just look further ahead to those 6 core setups :]
 
DMPrince said:
well i'm running low on disk space (500GB isn't enough apparently) it's been almost 2 years. it's close to changing anyways.

the only real way to increase that worthless score will be using a SSD. All standard HDD will stop at 5.9
 
Romance Pie said:
You just have the upgrade bug. I too have had the thought of upgrading to a i7 setup, but in the end the small performance boost wouldn't be worth spending the $650 NZD. Don't forget you would also have to buy new DDR3 ram as well.

Get a cooler that has upgrade options, I got a Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283 that has brackets that allow it to be attached to other sockets. And have a go at overclocking so you can increase your techyness. Nothing will really push your system over at the moment so just look further ahead to those 6 core setups :]
Yeah I get it on a regular basis :lol.

But fair enough, the E8500 is supposed to be a beast when it comes to overclocking anyway, you can get it to around 4.5ghz with proper cooling, don't know if my ram would hold up anyway, however, unless 667mhz Dual Channel ram is good enough but from what I read it isn't unless you oc the ram as well, but god knows how the RAM would behave then.

Is it possible to test my RAM at higher mhz to see if it's still stable and not risk it going bad?


Edit: That CPU fan is really cheap, 50 euros :D, I can see why OCing is a much better idea now. Thank god for GAF.
 
Ordered the goods today! Can't wait to build this thing!
  • Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
  • Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W
  • Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
  • Intel i7 930 2.8G
  • OCZ 3x2G OCZ3G1600LV6GK
  • XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 HD5870 1G
  • Samsung 500 GB SATA II HDD
I hope I didn't forget to order anything. If anyone has any "cheap but good" hsf recommendations please let me know. Everyones been telling me the stock cooling sucks.
 
Timan said:
Ordered the goods today! Can't wait to build this thing!
  • Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
  • Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W
  • Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
  • Intel i7 930 2.8G
  • OCZ 3x2G OCZ3G1600LV6GK
  • XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 HD5870 1G
  • Samsung 500 GB SATA II HDD
I hope I didn't forget to order anything. If anyone has any "cheap but good" hsf recommendations please let me know. Everyones been telling me the stock cooling sucks.
Hyper 212+. Took my i5 to 4ghz without breaking a sweat. Also, I hope you enjoy the CM 690 II. I love mine so much.
 
Oh that Filco keyboard is beautiful. I already have a das, but if I ever need a secondary keyboard I think I may try and grab one of those.
 
TheEastonator said:
My Dell m1530 is over 2 years old - I was looking into notebook cooling solutions today so I could overclock
You don't need a notebook cooler to overclock.
 
It's decided then, this little boy's buying himself a new heatsink for OC'ing his good old E8500.

Cheaper and I get to tinker some! Now I just gotta flash my bios so I can use my USB keyboard to enter it :lol, only old PS/2 keyboards work before the OS is booted :x.

Edit #4: I have a feeling my 667mhz ram might get in the way however. Seems 4.2ghz is the limit with air cooling but that's still a significant boost from the original 3.16.

My mainboard seems kinda on the cheap side, :lol. OC forums recommend you use a pencil to draw on part of a transistor to be able to get higher OC's on the board, I'm like "what!?!??" :(. Not giving up though. It's an Asus P5N-D, fyi.

Edit: Without modding with the actual circuitboard itself it seems I can get to 4.0ghz with no problems at all, given I have proper cooling :D. Hell yeah

So, fan at 50 euros, + 800mhz ram for 90, 140 euros to go from 3.16ghz to 4.0, worth it?
 
K.Jack said:
You don't need a notebook cooler to overclock.
Yeah, but the m1530 is well known for having overheating issues - some of which I've had myself. The overheating is generally more GPU related, but with all the components packed in so closely, it still makes me nervous.
 
Good news everyone! /Farnsworth

My PC is up and all good. The problem was so small that I completely overlooked it. My mobo was grounded so nothing powered up. It was a very small thing sticking up from the case to the motherboard too. =/ I felt silly.

Oh well. Gaming rig is back. Time to re-download my Steam collection. :D
 
Hey PC GAF.

My parents have asked me to build them a new PC as the one they have at the moment is slowly dying. I live in Australia so I have used the Whirlpool PC suggestions Wiki to guide me in the parts that need to be purchased (I have been out of the loop on PC parts for quite some time). The use of the PC would be Internet, emailing, "playing good videos and pictures" (parent speak for "Play video and view pictures"). Anyway, here is the system:

CPU: AMD AM3 Athlon II X4 620
Mobo: Gigabyte MA785GT-UD3H
RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3-1333
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (thinking of just a 500GB as they will never use that in a million years, they currently have a 200GB which is not even 50% full)
GPU: (On-board ATI Radeon HD 4200)
Case: Antec Solo (or Coolermaster Sileo 500, not sure on the case, want something quiet/silent on the cheap, suggestions?)
PSU: Silverstone Strider ST50F 500W
ODD: Sony-NEC Optiarc AD-7240S
Total: $687AUS
Plus Windows 7 OEM for ~$110AUS

Also my dad says that he would like it to last for a while (he says 5 years) so I'm wondering about the future proof-ness and the upgradable qualities of this build. I'm open to suggestions as how to improve this system but would like to keep it under $800-850AUS.


And now a question for myself. I have an E8400 and would like to overclock it to extend the life of my system before a complete overhaul, what would be a good CPU cooler to achieve a decent and stable overclock? Preferably one that is quiet and not too expensive. I have no idea when it comes to HSF so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
longdi said:
Try out scythe sflex 21F (1600rpm) or G (1900rpm) 120mm fans. they use sony liquid bearings, and are damn silent, only can hear the airflow. if your ambient is cooling, 21F should be the perfect for noise and cooling. They are very affordable for what they offers.

Dlink N routers are universally considered the best for consumers.

You can look for Scythe zipang 1 or zipang 2 for low noise, low profile cooler.
zipang 2 uses native i3/i5 mounting, while zipang 1 u need to get extra i3/i5 mounting.
imo zipang 1 is better designed and the fans are quieter.

Hooray for Filco mechanical keyboards!

Thank you for your pointers.

As you can see, the reason for Akasa Apache was due to the noise of 6db - 16db at max, respectable 50+ cfm airflow. Right now, I have 4 antec tri-cools and Zalman 9700 in my case (probably a overkill, as I'm not doing any OC) - but even at low settings, the noise is bothering me. Thus, I decided to search for lowest noise level with PWM... I'll see how it goes.

Techincally, if all of them run at say middle ground at 10-12db - I'll be using 5 of them and all together will be at 50-60db. (not sure how the noise levels add up though.) Right now, Zalman and antec, I'm assuming around 150db... which is more than a half, if my calculation is correct (probably not. LOL). I found sidewinder was selling them for 12 some bucks a pop ordered 5, plus PWM splitter and UPS ground shipping to NY was 11 bucks.... which roughly makes the fan at 14 bucks, shipped. I'll see how it goes, and if it doesn't satisfy the cooling, I'll think about going with something more powerful.

Right now, I'll be using the i7 930 at stock for a while, but when I get a chance, I'll see if I can create a O'C profile that's at 4.2 ghz and see how loud it would be, and check the temps... and if these Akasa fans aren't up to the job, I'll look for something more powerful like you've mentioned. :)

Dlink N router...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...link_wireless_n_router-_-33-127-243-_-Product
Is this the one, I assume?

As per Scythe Zipang 1 & 2 - thank you for the recommendation. It looks HUGE! Whoa.... To be honest, I'm looking for something little less timd for my HTPC. ;) At least I know where to look for some serious cooling if I do decide to go for some power. Thank you!
 
If there is a "I need to update my PC" thread, I apologize, but I had a couple questions on updating my current setup and wanted some quick pointers.

Currently I have:
NVidia GForce 8800 GTS
Vista 32 Bit
2 Gig RAM
Intel 2.4 gHz quad-core

Anyway, through my school I can get Windows 7 for cheap, either 32 or 64 bit, so my first question is which should I get? My second question is what brand/amount of RAM should I get, and where can you point me that would help me install it without frying it? Thanks for the help.
 
mariofan361 said:
If there is a "I need to update my PC" thread, I apologize, but I had a couple questions on updating my current setup and wanted some quick pointers.

Currently I have:
NVidia GForce 8800 GTS
Vista 32 Bit
2 Gig RAM
Intel 2.4 gHz quad-core

Anyway, through my school I can get Windows 7 for cheap, either 32 or 64 bit, so my first question is which should I get? My second question is what brand/amount of RAM should I get, and where can you point me that would help me install it without frying it? Thanks for the help.

Might as well go for 64-bit since you'll be adding more RAM. All Windows 7 keys will install on either 32 or 64-bit and the package should come with both discs.

Some of the more reputable RAM manufacturers include Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, G-skill, A-Data, OCZ, Mushkin, PQI, PNY, Patriot. Basically anything on Newegg.

RAM is probably the simplest hardware install to do, just slide back the retention clips, orient the RAM in the correct direction, and push in until the clips snap in place.
 
Easy_D said:
It's decided then, this little boy's buying himself a new heatsink for OC'ing his good old E8500.

Edit: Without modding with the actual circuitboard itself it seems I can get to 4.0ghz with no problems at all, given I have proper cooling :D. Hell yeah

So, fan at 50 euros, + 800mhz ram for 90, 140 euros to go from 3.16ghz to 4.0, worth it?

Games love high clocks, and the most you want to go around is 3.6ghz - 4.0ghz anyway

You can run 3.8 with 1:1 synchronous with 800mhz ram with that cpu (currently running 3.6ghz at 1.2V as my chip doesn't like 3.8ghz unless it is running 1.32V) got the green bug of power saving :I

Think that would be a better way to go than spending 400 euros on a new setup.
Also see if you can get CL4 ram cheaply if you can.
 
mariofan361 said:
If there is a "I need to update my PC" thread, I apologize, but I had a couple questions on updating my current setup and wanted some quick pointers.

Currently I have:
NVidia GForce 8800 GTS
Vista 32 Bit
2 Gig RAM
Intel 2.4 gHz quad-core

Anyway, through my school I can get Windows 7 for cheap, either 32 or 64 bit, so my first question is which should I get? My second question is what brand/amount of RAM should I get, and where can you point me that would help me install it without frying it? Thanks for the help.

Well, I don't think your system is a total junk to begin with. :) I have similar 8800 GTS g92, B3 Q6600 CPU, Win 7 home prem. 64bit, and 4gigs or ram - and I have no issues of running any day-to-day or even some photoshop, 3ds max etc. Even games, I can run them in pretty good settings with no issues too.

Windows 7 is really good. I have no problem with it, and to be honest, I don't think I can ever go back to XP or whatnot. Go with 64bit, and up to 4gb... you should be good for a while. If you want to push your system a bit more - then buy a good aftermarket cooler and some fans to OC your Q6600 to 3.2ghz or so. (if it's G0 stepping that is.) Maybe buy a mid to high range graphics card, and you should be good to go for another year or two. :)
 
Quoting my own question here again. Maybe someone can help me out with advice or a GlovePie script they know to be working.

Schlomo said:
Can anybody tell me how to play point and click adventure games with the Wii remote? I'm on Win 7 64 bit.

I successfully connected my remote and used the program WiinRemote to control the cursor and click stuff on the Windows desktop. But when I start up the game Jack Keane, I can only move the cursor, while button inputs don't work anymore. I also tried GlovePie, but can't get that to work properly even on the desktop.

It might be an issue with that particular game, but just in case: are there any other programs I could try?
 
Whats the best CPU in combination with a 5770 ? I will probably play on 24" Asus TFT ( 1080P). And is the 5770 powerful enough for playing games like SC2 and console-ports ala Bioshock 2, Mass Effect etc. in 1080P reolution ?
 
cw_sasuke said:
Whats the best CPU in combination with a 5770 ? I will probably play on 24" Asus TFT ( 1080P). And is the 5770 powerful enough for playing games like SC2 and console-ports ala Bioshock 2, Mass Effect etc. in 1080P reolution ?

In a word, Definitely. A dual-core CPU will suffice for almost all games (3.0GHz+) but there is the odd game like GTA4 that won't run that well unless you have a quad core CPU. I suspect that is a trend that will only become more and more common in the future. FWIW I'm under the impression that SC2 in particular will ONLY support dual cores.
 
Romance Pie said:
Games love high clocks, and the most you want to go around is 3.6ghz - 4.0ghz anyway

You can run 3.8 with 1:1 synchronous with 800mhz ram with that cpu (currently running 3.6ghz at 1.2V as my chip doesn't like 3.8ghz unless it is running 1.32V) got the green bug of power saving :I

Think that would be a better way to go than spending 400 euros on a new setup.
Also see if you can get CL4 ram cheaply if you can.
Done and done, Cl4 800mhz ram for basically the same price as the ram I looked at, which turned out to be CL5. (Which I also found out my current ram is as well)

Thanks for your help :D
 
Orellio said:
In a word, Definitely. A dual-core CPU will suffice for almost all games (3.0GHz+) but there is the odd game like GTA4 that won't run that well unless you have a quad core CPU. I suspect that is a trend that will only become more and more common in the future. FWIW I'm under the impression that SC2 in particular will ONLY support dual cores.

Thank mate. Sounds good - as long as i can play games like ME2 and Dragon Age or even older ones like Oblivion or Fallout 3 in 1080P ill be fine. So i was aiming for this configuration, since my budget is kinda limited.


TFT:
Asus VK246H

Mobo:
Asus M4a78t-e

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Box 95W, Sockel AM3 - good choice or should i go for the cheaper Phenoms or even the Athlon X4 ?

GPU:
ASUS EAH5770/2DIS/1GD5/V2, Radeon HD 5770, 1024MB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, PCIe 2.0

Ram:
Some cheap 4GB Ram - any recommendation ?
 
Ok this might be very bad. I reinstalled windows last week and instead of setting up riva tuner fan control again I just used EVGA precision. I was watching a movie on the PS3 but heard my computer fan spinning up and down even though it was set to constant 60%. My GPU heat graph was pinned at 112 celcius and the fan graph had been swapping between 100% and ZERO. Already back down to 66 and falling, but a huge what the fuck is going through my head.
 
Easy_D said:
Done and done, Cl4 800mhz ram for basically the same price as the ram I looked at, which turned out to be CL5. (Which I also found out my current ram is as well)

Thanks for your help :D

all good, just one thing you will also need some thermal paste if you haven't got any already, MX-2 is great as it is non conductive. And you will need to take your motherboard out from the tray to install the heatsink, unless you have a recent case that has a hole already cut out for that.

Maybe a hassle but a good time to clean up dust and your cables for better air flow.

Have fun!
 
So totally this "OC Kit" will go for 1780 SEK, around 178ish euros.


Xigmatek Dark Knight-S1283 CPU Heatsink w/Fan
Unfortunatley not the version that's compatible with future i5/i7 CPU's, however, that version doesn't seem to be in stock in any swedish online stores at the moment.

Corsair TWIN2X PC6400C4DHX DDR2 4GB KIT (CL4) -1095 SEK, around 110 euros.

ArticSilver Thermal Alumina Thermal Paste 9.5 euros.

and

ArcticSilver ArtiClean thermal paste cleaning solution. 109 SEK, 10 euros.

for the same price I could get a Q9400, I seem to remember reading the E8500 beats the Q9400 anyway, regardless of the ammount of cores.
Thoughts? If it'd been the version of the CPU heatsink that's compatible with the i5/i7's it'd be a no-brainer really, seeing as I'd be able to use it later on, I'll look for it some more I guess.
 
DMPrince said:
thanks. i should have word it differently. i was on newegg and say like 128-bit, 256, 512, etc. i was wondering is there one i can't use?
As long as you have PCI-E, you should be good.

Generally, 256-bit GDDR5 > 128-bit GDDR5 > 320-bit GDDR3. At least that's what it seems like coming from a 320-bit GDDR3 8800GTS.
 
Odious Tea said:
As long as you have PCI-E, you should be good.

Generally, 256-bit GDDR5 > 128-bit GDDR5 > 320-bit GDDR3. At least that's what it seems like coming from a 320-bit GDDR3 8800GTS.
oh okay. thanks for the information :D
 
News update...again:

Left PC on overnight after I got it back. As I did thousands of times with the previous PC build. Was downloading my Steam games again. Woke up, PC is off.

"Weird" I thought to myself.

I go to turn it on and nothing. No response. Once again, it is dead. Now the wait to get my system back is days, if not a week. I'm not sure this is worth the trouble anymore to be honest with you. Either the power supplies suck ass or the motherboard is eating them like the fucking cookie monster. Which I've never heard of.

I was trying to sell my Xbox 360 because with a gaming PC, why bother having one? Well, I may just be keeping it around a lot longer than I thought. =/
 
Bulk of my upgrade phase I goodies (except fans and Wifi N adapter) came in! I shipped to my work in NYC, so that I won't have to pay taxes (New Egg) :D

First time I'm seeing Core i7 930 chipset - it seems very large compared to my Core2 Quad/Duos. :) Asus P6X58D Premium also is one sweet looking MB as well. Corsair H50 cooler, Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 all look damn sexy, makes me very giddy.

My co-workers (who are 10, 25, and 35 yrs older than me) are all laughing at me that they've never seen me so excited. Boy, do I feel like a (happy) geek now...!
 
Easy_D said:
So totally this "OC Kit" will go for 1780 SEK, around 178ish euros.


Xigmatek Dark Knight-S1283 CPU Heatsink w/Fan
Unfortunatley not the version that's compatible with future i5/i7 CPU's, however, that version doesn't seem to be in stock in any swedish online stores at the moment.

Corsair TWIN2X PC6400C4DHX DDR2 4GB KIT (CL4) -1095 SEK, around 110 euros.

ArticSilver Thermal Alumina Thermal Paste 9.5 euros.

and

ArcticSilver ArtiClean thermal paste cleaning solution. 109 SEK, 10 euros.

for the same price I could get a Q9400, I seem to remember reading the E8500 beats the Q9400 anyway, regardless of the ammount of cores.
Thoughts? If it'd been the version of the CPU heatsink that's compatible with the i5/i7's it'd be a no-brainer really, seeing as I'd be able to use it later on, I'll look for it some more I guess.

Yeah my cooler only came with the LGA 775 bracket, but you can pick up one of these to attach it to other sockets http://www.xigmatek.com/product/accessory-crossbow-ack-i5361.php
you could look at the arctic cooler freezer 7 pro ver.2 as another cooler that can attach to the 775 and i core boards. That worked fine for me, but it covered one of my ram slots due to my board layout.

Also you picked thermal epoxy which is used to glue small ram heatsinks to vid cards, or north bridge coolers. And you can use cleaning alcohol to remove the old paste of your cpu ifyou have that at home already.

I was looking in the Q9400 at one stage but pretty sure it doesn't OC as high due to the limited multipliers, and games love high ghz. Plus you would have to buy the ram and heatsink if you want to OC that chip too.
 
Kintaro said:
News update...again:

Left PC on overnight after I got it back. As I did thousands of times with the previous PC build. Was downloading my Steam games again. Woke up, PC is off.

"Weird" I thought to myself.

I go to turn it on and nothing. No response. Once again, it is dead. Now the wait to get my system back is days, if not a week. I'm not sure this is worth the trouble anymore to be honest with you. Either the power supplies suck ass or the motherboard is eating them like the fucking cookie monster. Which I've never heard of.

I was trying to sell my Xbox 360 because with a gaming PC, why bother having one? Well, I may just be keeping it around a lot longer than I thought. =/

Kind of a silly question, but is sometimes overlooked. You have your equipment plugged into a decent surge protector, right?

Which PSU were you using? I only use Corsair and i've had zero issues with the dozens of machines over the years.
 
Hey guys, question about ATi graphics cards:

I'm really interested in outputting both audio and video via HDMI so I can feed it right into my receiver. I know the newer Radeon's that come with native HDMI outputs can do this.

My question is, if you don't get a Radeon with an HDMI port (for example, 2 DVI outputs instead) do you loose sound output as well? I know that the cards come with DVI->HDMI adapters, but there's no way to output sound over these right?

Basically my question is... isn't it a no brainer to go with a card that has HDMI out? Why are the cards priced the same if some don't have the audio output?

I know all modern motherboards will do digital surround via Toslink or Coax. I want uncompressed Dolby TrueHD.
 
TouchMyBox said:
Kind of a silly question, but is sometimes overlooked. You have your equipment plugged into a decent surge protector, right?

Which PSU were you using? I only use Corsair and i've had zero issues with the dozens of machines over the years.

Yes. My surge protector is very good.

Power supply I picked up was a Zumax 600 W from the local store. Same brand as my older PSU which gave me no problems. If I knew the motherboard required a new PSU, I would have bought one when I ordered everything together. =/

This "upgrade" is turning very expensive and I'm starting to regret it.
 
DMPrince said:
well i'm running low on disk space (500GB isn't enough apparently) it's been almost 2 years. it's close to changing anyways.

Sounds like you're looking to add another hard drive not replace it. If you're going to pick something up indeed the Samsung F3 or the WD Caviar Black is the way to go.
 
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