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Amir0x said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz32G6HsczY

Video of my case in action with all the fans running and shit. The noise level is retarded :lol

Now that I hear it, I think I may just have to invest in some quieter fans...

If your case is anything like my nine hundred two, you should have switches on the back and knobs on the front that can adjust fan speed. In that video did I see smoke coming out of the top of your case or is it just video artifacts?:lol

The 5870 IS loud though, but that lets it idle at 32c which is 20degrees cooler than my quieter 9800GTX+
 
Amir0x said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz32G6HsczY

Video of my case in action with all the fans running and shit. The noise level is retarded :lol

Now that I hear it, I think I may just have to invest in some quieter fans...

There are controls to adjust the speed of the case fans. For example on the front grille you will find tiny black knobs corresponding for each front 120mm fan. Those are potentiometers that will allow you to adjust how much rpm those fans spin at.
 
Façade said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is what it is. You'll be able to change the fan speeds when you install your motherboard drivers and software.

I'd suggest setting it in the BIOS so you don't have to wait for windows to boot up in order for the fans to spin down. Most motherboards have the fan control in the hardware monitor menu of the BIOS.
 
Amir0x said:
Video of my case in action with all the fans running and shit. The noise level is retarded :lol

Now that I hear it, I think I may just have to invest in some quieter fans...

Yeah those stock Antec fans are pretty loud indeed, but like allready said above, check the bios, it`s under PC Health Status (or something). Check and enable the smartfan feature, that might help.

All those fans are probably at 100% and they`re not superquality = that kinda noise.

This might also change when you install an OS, when I first boot my Gigabyte mobo it revs up everything at 100% default but they slow down after POST etc. (this is without smartfan enabled)

edit: if those fans are Antec Trispeed with the speed jumpers, use them indeed :D (not familiar with the 1200 case, got an Antec P182SE myself)
 
So here is my build that I should be ordering soon for college, it uses parts mostly from the US $600 PC as well as from the $647 build from maximum PC. Is this sufficient, and are there places where I can get some of these parts cheaper? (I want to be able to pretty much every game at 1080p at at least 30 fps for the next two years)

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAJS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447

COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-J3 460W ATX12V V2.31 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171046

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704&cm_re=amd_athlon_ii_x4_630-_-19-103-704-_-Product

Total: $604.92
 
If thats 30fps and maxed out then the 5770 will struggle at 1080p. Look into extending your budget and try to get a 5850, especially since crossfire isn't an option (and I wouldn't reccomend it anyway...) on that motherboard.
 
GHG said:
If thats 30fps and maxed out then the 5770 will struggle at 1080p. Look into extending your budget and try to get a 5850, especially since crossfire isn't an option (and I wouldn't reccomend it anyway...) on that motherboard.

No one ever has a consensus on what "maxed out" means. A 5770 will run any game at excellent settings @ 1080p if all you desire is 30fps. You'd have to drop Metro and Crysis to "high" but that's not a huge deal really and a lot of games will manage 60fps with excellent settings as well.
 
brain_stew said:
No one ever has a consensus on what "maxed out" means. A 5770 will run any game at excellent settings @ 1080p if all you desire is 30fps. You'd have to drop Metro and Crysis to "high" but that's not a huge deal really and a lot of games will manage 60fps with excellent settings as well.

Note he said the next 2 years. He'll definatley have to start dialling down some settings to maintain 30fps sooner or later.
 
ACE 1991 said:
So here is my build that I should be ordering soon for college, it uses parts mostly from the US $600 PC as well as from the $647 build from maximum PC. Is this sufficient, and are there places where I can get some of these parts cheaper? (I want to be able to pretty much every game at 1080p at at least 30 fps for the next two years)

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAJS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447

COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-J3 460W ATX12V V2.31 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171046

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706

Total: $604.92
Tip in extra dollars for the Athlon II x4 630.

Edit: It's actually the same price on newegg.com :lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0001028 40000343 1050749422&name=Athlon II X4
 
brain_stew said:
No one ever has a consensus on what "maxed out" means. A 5770 will run any game at excellent settings @ 1080p if all you desire is 30fps. You'd have to drop Metro and Crysis to "high" but that's not a huge deal really and a lot of games will manage 60fps with excellent settings as well.

Okay, thanks. If need be I don't have a huge problem dropping down to 1680x1050.

EDIT: is 460 watts enough, or should I spring for 500?
 
ACE 1991 said:
Okay, thanks. If need be I don't have a huge problem dropping down to 1680x1050.

EDIT: is 460 watts enough, or should I spring for 500?

460 watts should be plenty enough for that system.
 
Vic said:
Tip in extra dollars for the Athlon II x4 630.

Edit: It's actually the same price on newegg.com :lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0001028 40000343 1050749422&name=Athlon II X4

Just put the X4 630 into my mothers PC and it works like a charm. Haven't tried out the 785 chipset yet for basic gaming but for her needs it's perfect. Tried using an old Corsair 750W I had laying around but there's something funky going on with it making it unusable. Threw in the old POS garbage 300W from her old P4 system and it's working fine but sounding like a dying animal. Still, crappy luck my Corsair went bad, they usually hold up quite well.
 
Druz said:
If your case is anything like my nine hundred two, you should have switches on the back and knobs on the front that can adjust fan speed. In that video did I see smoke coming out of the top of your case or is it just video artifacts?:lol

The 5870 IS loud though, but that lets it idle at 32c which is 20degrees cooler than my quieter 9800GTX+

My 5870 is silent... it can be loud as all hell, yes, if you have the fans running at near 100% speeds, which is what they will do if you're not in windows / just booting your PC. My 5870 fan runs at 20% speed in Windows idling, and makes less sound than moving the mouse extremely slowly over the mouse pad.

Lowering fan speeds is an excellent idea to reduce system noise (so long as your CPU temps are fine). My system fans are definitely audible at 1500-2000 rpm, but at 900-1000 rpm they're essentially silent.
 
Minsc said:
My 5870 is silent... it can be loud as all hell, yes, if you have the fans running at near 100% speeds, which is what they will do if you're not in windows / just booting your PC. My 5870 fan runs at 20% speed in Windows idling, and makes less sound than moving the mouse extremely slowly over the mouse pad.

Lowering fan speeds is an excellent idea to reduce system noise (so long as your CPU temps are fine). My system fans are definitely audible at 1500-2000 rpm, but at 900-1000 rpm they're essentially silent.
My default for 9800gtx ran at 35% fan speed, I figure ill keep the 5870 at default whether its loud or not
 
Would a GTS 250 be good enough for 720p gaming?
Don't need the highest settings just around console level or a little above. Playing anything from plants vs zombies to crysis.
 
T-Matt said:
Would a GTS 250 be good enough for 720p gaming?
Don't need the highest settings just around console level or a little above. Playing anything from plants vs zombies to crysis.

With those demands you can basically expect a perfect 60fps in everything you play. A GTS 250 utterly blows away the GPUs featured in the current consoles. Expect around 3x the performance on average, so 60fps (CPU permitting) + nicer graphics than consoles.
 
brain_stew said:
With those demands you can basically expect a perfect 60fps in everything you play. A GTS 250 utterly blows away the GPUs featured in the current consoles. Expect around 3x the performance on average, so 60fps (CPU permitting) + nicer graphics than consoles.
Awesome, you are a wealth of knowledge sir. Will be paired with an athlon II quad or phenom II quad. Would the 1gb version be more beneficial?
 
Amir0x said:
(sniff)

Not yet. But, it's nice to know this works

Yeah! turning it on the first time is a great feeling. Now it's time to crack it open again and clean up those wires :D

A well wired case is a real joy to have.
 
Amir0x said:
the reason it wasn't working is as follows:

the fans were plugged into the peripheral wires into the PSU, like they were supposed to. But apparently I wasn't supposed to further plug those into the various fan labeled spots on the motherboard. As soon as I took them off, everything sprung to life - the fans, the LED lights, the CPU, the RAM...

Yeah. Wow. The sense of accomplishment after 11 hours of work makes me want to cry. FUCK YEAH!
So your fans had a molex and a 3 pin and you connected both?

I did that before but it only made my fans run faster. :lol
 
Budget: £500-1000
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024 for RTS / Websurfing, secondary monitor 1920x1080 for movies/joypad games.
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Starcraft II / JC2

I need some help making a new gaming rig (mainly so I am ready for when SCII hits). All I need is the desktop, got monitors though my smaller one could do with being replaced. Custom built if possible unless the price gap is not worth it.
 
Druz said:
My default for 9800gtx ran at 35% fan speed, I figure ill keep the 5870 at default whether its loud or not

That's pretty stupid. At 35% (I just tried it) the fan is very audible, incredibly so. Just uncheck manual fan control, no reason to use it really. Especially if the noise bothers you, 35% = noisy, the 20% from auto fan control will be completely silent, and even under 100% load it should stay silent.

To say the "5870 IS loud," well, sure if you go in and raise the fan speed well beyond what is necessary, then yes it is loud. But if you leave the defaults alone, and have a cool case, it's basically inaudible.

Edit: Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I thought you were saying you are changing it to the 35% speed that your 9800gtx defaulted to. If you're just leaving it be on auto, what % is it using on idle? You're case must be very cool for it to be 32C on auto, and the fan speed should be even lower than 20%, if that's even possible. I would never recommend manually setting it to a 20% because it will probably over heat under load if it doesn't automatically raise the fan speed a little.
 
Does anyone have any recommendations on cheap, but quality, 24" lcd monitors?

I've had a look at the Dell G2410 and Acer X243HQ which look pretty good, and the latter seems to be a pretty great price

Any other recommendations? or reasons why the two above are no good?
 
tabsina said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on cheap, but quality, 24" lcd monitors?

I've had a look at the Dell G2410 and Acer X243HQ which look pretty good, and the latter seems to be a pretty great price

Any other recommendations? or reasons why the two above are no good?
Bought the 23" version this Friday (X233HQ). Best piece of equipment I've ever bought considering what I've paid for it. Other than a bit of bright backlight at the bottom of the screen with mine (might not be the case of all the X2xxHQ monitors), I have no complains at all regarding this monitor.
 
Minsc said:
That's pretty stupid. At 35% (I just tried it) the fan is very audible, incredibly so. Just uncheck manual fan control, no reason to use it really. Especially if the noise bothers you, 35% = noisy, the 20% from auto fan control will be completely silent, and even under 100% load it should stay silent.

To say the "5870 IS loud," well, sure if you go in and raise the fan speed well beyond what is necessary, then yes it is loud. But if you leave the defaults alone, and have a cool case, it's basically inaudible.

Edit: Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I thought you were saying you are changing it to the 35% speed that your 9800gtx defaulted to. If you're just leaving it be on auto, what % is it using on idle? You're case must be very cool for it to be 32C on auto, and the fan speed should be even lower than 20%, if that's even possible. I would never recommend manually setting it to a 20% because it will probably over heat under load if it doesn't automatically raise the fan speed a little.


I'm referring to my GTX+, it was at 35% speed and quiet. I said I'm leaving my 5870 to do whatever it likes with the fan regardless of noise. I just checked and default is set to 55%, don't know if I should manually adjust it. I don't know how to tell it to idle lower. Btw, when reaching around 60c my games start to artifact a little. Cool stuffings.
 
Gotta thank J Tourettes for send me to this link.



Budget: $2,000
Main Use(s): (Gaming, Video Editing, Web Browsing, Java Programming
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 of note I have four monitors that is the key factor
Games that I MUST be able to play: Starcraft II, Diablo III, Dawn of War 2
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Gotta thank J Tourettes for send me to this link.



Budget: $2,000
Main Use(s): (Gaming, Video Editing, Web Browsing, Java Programming
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 of note I have four monitors that is the key factor
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Starcraft II, Diablo III, Dawn of War 2
I was pretty close to posting a link to this thread in yours, but I figured it was some sort of taboo to cross the streams of OT and Gaming :lol
 
Kenak said:
I was pretty close to posting a link to this thread in yours, but I figured it was some sort of taboo to cross the streams of OT and Gaming :lol

:lol me too. in my old age I don't get to the gaming side much so it's like I forgot how to post here.
 
Druz said:
I'm referring to my GTX+, it was at 35% speed and quiet. I said I'm leaving my 5870 to do whatever it likes with the fan regardless of noise. I just checked and default is set to 55%, don't know if I should manually adjust it. I don't know how to tell it to idle lower. Btw, when reaching around 60c my games start to artifact a little. Cool stuffings.

That's really weird, why would the fan run at 55% just to idle at 32C? That's 7C lower than what most benchmarking sites get. That's the reason for all the noise though. If it weren't for breaking the warranty (I think) when you click that little unlock key (read the box that comes up), you could have safely change it while you're not gaming to 20% , and mute the damn thing (watch the temps though at first, but if they go above 50C that's extremely weird)! You'll probably end up exchanging it once you see how quiet it is supposed to be!

Other weird thing is the card should show no artifacts even with temps in the 80s, again, most reviews show the card running in the 70s under load, GPUs can usually run in to the 90s without trouble... you may have a bad one anyway.

Edit: fixed suggestion to incorrect information w/ warranty
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Gotta thank J Tourettes for send me to this link.



Budget: $2,000
Main Use(s): (Gaming, Video Editing, Web Browsing, Java Programming
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 of note I have four monitors that is the key factor
Games that I MUST be able to play: Starcraft II, Diablo III, Dawn of War 2

How do you run 4 monitors now? 2 GPU cards? Potentially you would be able to use either of these right? The second one has 6 display ports, all mini display port though, but I would think if you had four monitors, you'd have gotten ones that can be hooked up with those connections? I have no idea! The first one has a mix of things, so the second style with all 6 the same might be more elegant... I'm not even 100% if you can run 4 displays off the first though, I'd have to double check.

The second one's approach is much better anyway, it has the 2GB of RAM which will help a lot more than 1GB of RAM. So hopefully you can connect your 4 monitors with mini display ports.

You definitely want something high end to play Dawn of War 2 maxed, a 5870 would not be overkill.
 
Minsc said:
How do you run 4 monitors now? 2 GPU cards? Potentially you would be able to use either of these right? The second one has 6 display ports, all mini display port though, but I would think if you had four monitors, you'd have gotten ones that can be hooked up with those connections? I have no idea! The first one has a mix of things, so the second style with all 6 the same might be more elegant... I'm not even 100% if you can run 4 displays off the first though, I'd have to double check.

The second one's approach is much better anyway, it has the 2GB of RAM which will help a lot more than 1GB of RAM. So hopefully you can connect your 4 monitors with mini display ports.

You definitely want something high end to play Dawn of War 2 maxed, a 5870 would not be overkill.
Correct I was running two PCI cards. So the second option is far more elegant and where I want to go.
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Correct I was running two PCI cards. So the second option is far more elegant and where I want to go.

If your budget is $2000, that definitely has way more than enough room for the 5870 eyefinity 6, plus you don't have to worry about any ram bottlenecks with that card.
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Correct I was running two PCI cards. So the second option is far more elegant and where I want to go.

Maybe someone else will give some system advice, you're one of the first people with the need for an Eyefinity 6 card/system! I'm sorta not that helpful because I just link to Tech Report's builds, this one in particular in your case.

You can tweak it to reach your $2,000 budget. Swap in a 2GB Eyefinity 6 for the GPU, downgrade the CPU to a i7 930 w/ an aftermarket cooler to save some money, downgrade the RAM to 6GB for now, to save some money, downgrade the SSD to the 80GB version or eliminate it entirely for a 1TB samsung spinpoint F3, optionally drop the WD Green if you don't need extra storage, replace the blu-ray with a normal DVD recorder if you don't need it, and your price should be around $1900, give or take!
 
I'm going to pick up a samsung Spinpoint f3 hdd to replace my 5+ year old barracuda. Does the 32mb vs 16mb cache make a difference at all for responsiveness or gaming?
 
So is there a big difference between the new core i processors and the core 2 duos?

I want to get a new laptop, my old dell is 7 years old. I'm just wondering if should go with a higher end core 2 duo or the new core i line.

I don't want to spend lots of money, $650 to $800 maybe. Amazon has this HP pavilion DV6 for $680.

It has core i3 processor, are the i5 way better? I did a quick search for comparison charts and didn't really find anything.

The other thing is it comes with 4 GB of RAM, I'll probably end up using 1GB for video. I wish it came 6GB. I have windows 7 already so I wish I could buy it with out the OS, then I would use the extra money for more RAM and a little better processor. I'm not in a hurry though, I'll probably buy after my birthday in 3 weeks.
 
Hey guys, a friend of mine told me that the 5770 requires 450 watts, and I'm planning on buying a 460 watt PSU. Is this cutting it a little close, if so should I spring for a 500 watt?
 
Minsc said:
That's really weird, why would the fan run at 55% just to idle at 32C? That's 7C lower than what most benchmarking sites get. That's the reason for all the noise though. If it weren't for breaking the warranty (I think) when you click that little unlock key (read the box that comes up), you could have safely change it while you're not gaming to 20% , and mute the damn thing (watch the temps though at first, but if they go above 50C that's extremely weird)! You'll probably end up exchanging it once you see how quiet it is supposed to be!

Other weird thing is the card should show no artifacts even with temps in the 80s, again, most reviews show the card running in the 70s under load, GPUs can usually run in to the 90s without trouble... you may have a bad one anyway.

Edit: fixed suggestion to incorrect information w/ warranty


I have same problem as this guy: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=185317

I dropped the fan speed using ATI tool down to 35 and it was quiet. My screen is starting to artifact though so...
 
ACE 1991 said:
Hey guys, a friend of mine told me that the 5770 requires 450 watts, and I'm planning on buying a 460 watt PSU. Is this cutting it a little close, if so should I spring for a 500 watt?

Wattage ratings don't count for shit. I'd bet that the 460 watt psu you'd be looking at would most likely be sufficient, but post what you're looking at here just to make sure.
 
Minsc said:
Maybe someone else will give some system advice, you're one of the first people with the need for an Eyefinity 6 card/system! I'm sorta not that helpful because I just link to Tech Report's builds, this one in particular in your case.

You can tweak it to reach your $2,000 budget. Swap in a 2GB Eyefinity 6 for the GPU, downgrade the CPU to a i7 930 w/ an aftermarket cooler to save some money, downgrade the RAM to 6GB for now, to save some money, downgrade the SSD to the 80GB version or eliminate it entirely for a 1TB samsung spinpoint F3, optionally drop the WD Green if you don't need extra storage, replace the blu-ray with a normal DVD recorder if you don't need it, and your price should be around $1900, give or take!
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view

Thoughts? What am I missing?
 
TouchMyBox said:
If your budget is $2000, that definitely has way more than enough room for the 5870 eyefinity 6, plus you don't have to worry about any ram bottlenecks with that card.

The PSU is in this post I made:

ACE 1991 said:
So here is my build that I should be ordering soon for college, it uses parts mostly from the US $600 PC as well as from the $647 build from maximum PC. Is this sufficient, and are there places where I can get some of these parts cheaper? (I want to be able to pretty much every game at 1080p at at least 30 fps for the next two years)

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAJS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447

COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-J3 460W ATX12V V2.31 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171046

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706

Total: $604.92
 
amir0x has been purified through strife. there's always a narrative to building a pc, and more often than not that first nudge of the power button will induce nothing but fear and rage. i try not to tell people this as invariably they will solve it themselves and it is a path that must be walked alone, a crash course in humility, perseverance and triumph.

people i know generally keep all their antec case fans on the lowest settings for general use, maybe break out to medium if you're overclocking in the summer or something.
 
Druz said:
I have same problem as this guy: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=185317

I dropped the fan speed using ATI tool down to 35 and it was quiet. My screen is starting to artifact though so...

Do you have a second PC so you can RMA it without it being a hassle? It sounds broken if it artifacts at normal operating temperatures. If I were you'd I'd be posting on some hardware forums, either XFX or the one you linked to, it's not normal for a card to have artifacts, probably bad memory.

I'm going to start advising people away from XFX now, if you can't use auto-fan control. I have a Vision Tek one, so anyone looking for a silent 5870, go for that.
 
ACE 1991 said:
Hey guys, a friend of mine told me that the 5770 requires 450 watts, and I'm planning on buying a 460 watt PSU. Is this cutting it a little close, if so should I spring for a 500 watt?

Your friend is almost doubling what your actual system consumption will be. Not that you'd be wanting to cut it as close as possible but you'd be fine with even a 400W unit as long as it's from a quality PSU maker. You should pay more attention to the amperage on the 12V rail than on the rated wattage.

cuevas said:
is there a big jump in quality between manufacturers of ram? Newegg is out of kingston but I need the parts asap.

Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...R3_SDRAM_DDR3_1333-_-20-134-792-_-Product[/B]

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...sktop+Memory)-_-Crucial+Technology-_-20148262


Not really. I bought those sticks just last week and they've been working great.
 
ACE 1991 said:
Hey guys, a friend of mine told me that the 5770 requires 450 watts, and I'm planning on buying a 460 watt PSU. Is this cutting it a little close, if so should I spring for a 500 watt?
He's wrong since I'm running a 5770 with a 400W PSU.
 
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