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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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Planning on building a PC for the first time. I'm in no rush but I would like to get it set up by the end of Summer (unless the deals are good enough around the holidays that I should wait until then).
I'd like to know when if anyone has any suggestions on different components (any bottlenecks or overkills):
Intel Core i7-875K Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor $330
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $160
XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit $295
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower $90 (free shipping) I like the look of the case, no idea what the quality is like.
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V $60 after MIR (seems like a good deal so I may bite now)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb $95
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) $105
SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L $20
Total: 1155
I'm also looking to get the components as cheap as possible as I'm in no rush. So if you guys know of any traditional deals, expect certain components to go down in price (if next gen stuff is coming out), or any shopping tips in general I'd really appreciate it. Been a long time since I've had a gaming PC so thanks.
I'd like to know when if anyone has any suggestions on different components (any bottlenecks or overkills):
Intel Core i7-875K Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor $330
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $160
XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit $295
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower $90 (free shipping) I like the look of the case, no idea what the quality is like.
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V $60 after MIR (seems like a good deal so I may bite now)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb $95
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) $105
SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L $20
Total: 1155
I'm also looking to get the components as cheap as possible as I'm in no rush. So if you guys know of any traditional deals, expect certain components to go down in price (if next gen stuff is coming out), or any shopping tips in general I'd really appreciate it. Been a long time since I've had a gaming PC so thanks.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Anybody know why my pc is only recognizing 4 out of 6 gigs of ram?
SuperSonic1305
Member
azentium said:
64 bit Windows 7
Is this RAM good for an i7 860 / UD4P build? I see it's what TechReport uses in their summer 2010 sweeter spot build, so maybe that's my answer..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001R4BT1M/?tag=neogaf0e-20
If you think there's something better, please recommend some other Kingston/Patriot/Corsair RAM (note: need to either buy at Fry's or Amazon ... building my machine this weekend so i need the parts!).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001R4BT1M/?tag=neogaf0e-20
If you think there's something better, please recommend some other Kingston/Patriot/Corsair RAM (note: need to either buy at Fry's or Amazon ... building my machine this weekend so i need the parts!).
That's real warm for a stock q6600 at those loads. Are you sure the cooler is attached properly? Did you use thermal grease?darkpaladinmfc said:I didn't see the minus sign. I'll check on CoreTemp in just a sec, and see what it gives me.
EDIT:
Basically what SpeedFan said, but without the minus sign :lol.
Ok, here's what I've bought ... should be here Thursday:
Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case External 3 X 5.25; Internal 6 X 3.5 2*Usb2.0
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750-Watt TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
Intel Core i7 860 Processor 2.80 GHz 8 MB LGA1156 CPU
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5850 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA
Crucial CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB 2GBx2 240-pin PC3-10600 DIMM DDR3 Memory KIT
D-Link DWA-556 Xtreme N PCI Express Desktop Adapter
Grand total of $1040.
Oh ya ... did I forget anything?
Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case External 3 X 5.25; Internal 6 X 3.5 2*Usb2.0
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750-Watt TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
Intel Core i7 860 Processor 2.80 GHz 8 MB LGA1156 CPU
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5850 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA
Crucial CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB 2GBx2 240-pin PC3-10600 DIMM DDR3 Memory KIT
D-Link DWA-556 Xtreme N PCI Express Desktop Adapter
Grand total of $1040.
Oh ya ... did I forget anything?
Morbid Angel
Member
Quick question: What's better for me (1680x1050 monitor and 720p TV)?
4870 1GB (140) or 5770 512MB (146)?
4870 1GB (140) or 5770 512MB (146)?
EazyB said:
I would lose the 875 and replace with the 750. Hyperthreading is not necessary and you won't be hitting too many OC ceilings with the 750 (I have mine at 4GHz, friend at 4.2-4.4 on water).
I have that motherboard and it's brilliant.
CM690 II is a fantastic case. I wish I had gotten it instead of my CM Sniper. It is really roomy inside for it's size and everything is coated in black paint. It's great.
Power supply looks good, if you plan to dual GPU ever then think about getting the 750W Corsair TX.
With the money you save on the CPU you should:
a. invest in some better ram. Get something that is at least DDR3 1600. My G.skill eco serves me well but read around what the hot value ram is right now.
b. Buy an aftermarket cooler such as COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus (works really well and can be found cheap). For this also read reviews to find out what's the best in value currently in the 120mm range.
Thanks for the response. Further investigation confirms the 750 is indeed the better choice for me. The difference in FPS definitely doesn't justify the extra $150. Yeah, these 1600 G.skills look better.Xirj said:
Pretty pumped about this venture but I'm going to try to hold off for deals over the next two months until I have everything. Edit: If any of the prices I posted above are particularly good, bad, or expected to drop within the next 2 months, I'd love to know.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
I think the cooler is attached properly, and I used the thermal paste that came on the cooler. I've ordered some Arctic Silver 5 to use, but my other temperatures are all too high as well...Boonoo said:
Alright, with advice from you guys, and multiple other locations, I think I've found my build. Prices aren't 100% what's shown as I'll be on the lookout for better deals. But I was hoping some kind soul would let me know if everything I have thus far is compatibile and all I need to use the PC (once built) for now.
I have a mouse, keyboard, monitor and CD Drive. So if I put everything together and wasn't planning on overclocking right away, would this computer be ready to be used? Do all necessary fans and wires come with the purchases?
I have a mouse, keyboard, monitor and CD Drive. So if I put everything together and wasn't planning on overclocking right away, would this computer be ready to be used? Do all necessary fans and wires come with the purchases?
Guys, a friend of mine, have a pretty old PC, and asked me how to upgrade it a bit, for a little price These are the specs:
- ASROCK LGA775 CONROEXFIRE
- PRO INTEL CORE 2 DUO 1,86 GHZ
- RAM DDR-2 1GB 533MHZ
- ATI RADEON X1300 256
My first thought was: upgrade it all, man.
That's why i ask you, what's more critical here?
- ASROCK LGA775 CONROEXFIRE
- PRO INTEL CORE 2 DUO 1,86 GHZ
- RAM DDR-2 1GB 533MHZ
- ATI RADEON X1300 256
My first thought was: upgrade it all, man.
That's why i ask you, what's more critical here?
Apparently Newegg dropped the price of the mobo I ordered from 189.99 -> 154.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188049). Considering I haven't even received the package yet, could I possibly get Newegg to adjust my order to reflect the new price or would that be a no-go?
And all of my parts should arrive today. Be ready for lots of questions on whether I'm hooking it up correctly or not :lol
And all of my parts should arrive today. Be ready for lots of questions on whether I'm hooking it up correctly or not :lol
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I think I may go AMD x6 this build now... It saves me like 300ish dollars from an i7... Not sure what I want now. :/
gregor7777
Banned
filipe said:
That case comes with all the case fans you'll need. Everything is included there. Wonderful case. Best I've ever owned.
As far as wires and everything, yeah, you should be set. Is your CD drive SATA? The MB should come with a few SATA cables in the box.
TouchMyBox
Member
CSampson said:I knew I was forgetting something important...power supply :lol .
So that video card has onboard sound on the hdmi out? Wow, that's awesome. Thanks
EDIT: Alright well I'm looking at http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033, 380W. That should be enough power?
Yeah, that computer shouldn't use over 380W and antec is a solid PSU manufacturer. That said, I always like a little leeway with PSUs so I'd go for something at least in the mid-400s-500 as far as wattage is concerned to make any future upgrades a non-issue.
SlickWilly223
Time ta STEP IT UP
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
I may be wrong, but didn't you post in my thread that the AMD AM3 solution is a stupid idea? At least, I'm judging based on your avatar alone.
Anyway, I'm definitely going with an 1055t/1090 B.E, Asus Crosshair IV, G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1600MHz, and at LEAST two 5850s (I'd prefer 3 of them)
Then, this christmas, I'll go with water cooling.
I just refuse to pay $160+ for 6GB of Triple-Channel memory, and it seems, based on AMD's roadmap, that the Crosshair IV will be compatible with AMD's Zambezi release in 2011.
SlickWilly223
Time ta STEP IT UP
BTW guys, forget what you know about PC cases. If you're in the market for a full-sized ATX case, this is what you want.
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653
Calm Killer
In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
I am looking to put more fans into my corsair 800d. I have the stock fans running currently with my I7 930 on an asus p6x58d premium motherboard. The core Temps are around 54C. Should I get a fan controller and what type of case fans should I go with? I believe the stock fans are 140 MM. I assume I should go with 140MM for the rest. Having problems finding specs on the stock fans. I will post the Temps once I get home from work.
TouchMyBox
Member
Badabing said:
Eh, I'd still rather have my Lancool PC-K62
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Badabing said:I may be wrong, but didn't you post in my thread that the AMD AM3 solution is a stupid idea? At least, I'm judging based on your avatar alone.
Anyway, I'm definitely going with an 1055t/1090 B.E, Asus Crosshair IV, G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1600MHz, and at LEAST two 5850s (I'd prefer 3 of them)
Then, this christmas, I'll go with water cooling.
I just refuse to pay $160+ for 6GB of Triple-Channel memory, and it seems, based on AMD's roadmap, that the Crosshair IV will be compatible with AMD's Zambezi release in 2011.
I don't think I did... All I said before is going dual core is stupid at this day and age if you intend to game. Quads are cheap as hell. And I prefered intel at the time because I have a microcenter so I can get the i7 930 for same price as an x6 and it's more powerful but the mobo prices kill you with intel.
Edit: And :lol at not wanting to spend $160 on ram but will buy 3 5850s...
The Chef said:
You'll probably be hard pressed to find someone in this thread at least. It's too expensive for significantly shittier performance.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
The Chef said:
In my opinion yes but there are some here who would rather pay a premium for having a gaming laptop. If you're gaming at home a lot I see no reason to not build a desktop for a lot cheaper and better but that's a decision you have to make of what you want.
SlickWilly223
Time ta STEP IT UP
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:I don't think I did... All I said before is going dual core is stupid at this day and age if you intend to game. Quads are cheap as hell. And I prefered intel at the time because I have a microcenter so I can get the i7 930 for same price as an x6 and it's more powerful but the mobo prices kill you with intel.
Edit: And :lol at not wanting to spend $160 on ram but will buy 3 5850s...
You'll probably be hard pressed to find someone in this thread at least. It's too expensive for significantly shittier performance.
Well, to be fair, three 5850s will net insane gaming performance, while 6GB of RAM would just be unnecessary, which is why I'm taking the AM3 option (I already own 4GB DDR3 ram)
5850s should get a price drop when nvidia releases their Geforce 465. And in terms of gaming it's pretty clear that having a great GPU setup is more important than a processor/RAM combo. But like, 5850s are more expensive today than they were 7 months ago. WTF?
SuperSonic1305
Member
azentium said:
It says 4096 mb total memory in the BIOS. Or am I looking at the wrong spot?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Badabing said:
That's still close to a grand just for your GPU.
Just saying is all.Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
The Chef said:
Like I said it's up to you but for me for work I want a laptop with more than like an hour battery life. The gaming ones are all shit battery life because they're not meant for that. Again, it's personal preference.
-COOLIO- said:
There hasn't been much movement. AMD hasn't really countered i5/i7 heavily and we're still talking about the same graphics cards as 6 months ago. Both AMD and Nvidia have just been rolling out new "in-between" models but not updating or reducing the prices on the 5770, 5850, 5870, etc. Prices will probably remain pretty stagnant through the holidays as Sandy Bridge will no doubt be priced too high at the get-go.
Rooky question here (need to confirm before ordering parts), will a 5770/5850, namely these:
Sapphire 5770 1GB - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741
XFX 5850 1GB - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/222056
Work on this motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-H55 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189288
They state DDR5, and i think this is a DDR3 motherboard, but i may be totally overlooking something... The other card i was previously recommended was the GTX260 (which is a DDR3 card i believe). If the 260 is the only one compatible and is no good (for whatever reason) can someone recommend a similar card around the same price point, thanks.
Sapphire 5770 1GB - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741
XFX 5850 1GB - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/222056
Work on this motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-H55 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189288
They state DDR5, and i think this is a DDR3 motherboard, but i may be totally overlooking something... The other card i was previously recommended was the GTX260 (which is a DDR3 card i believe). If the 260 is the only one compatible and is no good (for whatever reason) can someone recommend a similar card around the same price point, thanks.
gregor7777
Banned
Fireflu said:
Disregard the memory specs on the GPU when looking at motherboards. The motherboard is talking about system RAM. The memory on the graphics card is dedicated to the GPU, so it has nothing to do with what the MB is talking about.
Both cards are perfectly compatible with that motherboard. As long as it has a PCI express x16 slot (it does), you're good to go.
These days any recent video card will be compatible with any recent motherboard, regardless of brand or spec.
Did you see this?filipe said:Alright, with advice from you guys, and multiple other locations, I think I've found my build. Prices aren't 100% what's shown as I'll be on the lookout for better deals. But I was hoping some kind soul would let me know if everything I have thus far is compatibile and all I need to use the PC (once built) for now.
I have a mouse, keyboard, monitor and CD Drive. So if I put everything together and wasn't planning on overclocking right away, would this computer be ready to be used? Do all necessary fans and wires come with the purchases?
Overkill PSU (get 650w), no need for i7 (extra $), older HDD (get the samsung),filipe said:
See: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=11141094 for components. Add in GPU of choice. GTX 470 is fine, although you might consider the 5850 if the price difference is enough where you are.
Swap RAM to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274EazyB said:
Swap HDD to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
I'd switch the CPU to an i5-750. Unless you have a specific reason for needing 8 threads it is not necessary. (Or if you wanted a 4.4Ghz OC vs a 4.1Ghz)
Case is very nice
*Maybe I should scroll down the page next time, but yeah same comments.
The CPU can be overclocked to 3Ghz and 2GB of DDR is manageable so I'd upgrade the GPU first.UrbanRats said:
Give them a ring ASAP. Sometimes they will give you back the difference.Kenak said:
If they don't, call again and try to get another person :lol
Make sure the RAM is seated properly (take it out and put it back), and if it doesn't show then, swap them into the second slot.SuperSonic1305 said:
If it is still 4GB test each stick manually and see which one is bad.
If all of them work then run memtest86+ from a CD on each to see which errors.
Also make sure the RAM is running at the rated voltage and timing (e.g. 8-8-8-24). This might be under advanced options.
OK, with the Steam sale going on and SCII right around the corner, it's time to build a new system.
I've gotten a lot of mileage out of my 4-year-old machine and it's time to make it a server.
Currently, I have an AMD Athlonx2 4400, 2GB RAM, and nVidia 6800 ultra.
Done laughing? good.
I'm looking at moving up to this:
i5 750
Gigabyte P55 mobo
4GB G.Skill
ATI HD 5850
I have a 24" monitor and want to game at 1920x1200 with eye-candy. From what I've read, for that resolution, the 5850 is the sweet spot, but is there a refresh on the horizon that will push that price down sub-$250?
I've gotten a lot of mileage out of my 4-year-old machine and it's time to make it a server.
Currently, I have an AMD Athlonx2 4400, 2GB RAM, and nVidia 6800 ultra.
Done laughing? good.
I'm looking at moving up to this:
i5 750
Gigabyte P55 mobo
4GB G.Skill
ATI HD 5850
I have a 24" monitor and want to game at 1920x1200 with eye-candy. From what I've read, for that resolution, the 5850 is the sweet spot, but is there a refresh on the horizon that will push that price down sub-$250?
Thanks gregor!, and a speedy reply to boot!
EDIT: haha steadfast! im not laughing at you, im laughing with you! see those specs are almost spot on my current build, and the parts your looking to purchase are almost identical to mine too! good to see im not alone in this insane world of tech.
EDIT: haha steadfast! im not laughing at you, im laughing with you! see those specs are almost spot on my current build, and the parts your looking to purchase are almost identical to mine too! good to see im not alone in this insane world of tech.
Hazaro said:
Is there any reason I'd get this:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
over this:
G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
The second has faster speed and costs $10 more. I really don't know enough about RAM to know if it makes a difference (1600 vs 1333).
Also, about the motherboard, I'm looking at this one:
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P
as I've heard good things about it but this one:
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3
is about $50 cheaper. I don't know enough to understand what warrants the price difference. From the product pages of each the 4P has eSATAII, 2 additional 3 GB/s SATA, IEEE 1394, and Smart TPM. None of that means anything to me and what I could find in my own research didn't help much. I'd like to be able to hold onto the motherboard for quite a while but is it worth it? Any additional help is appreciated.
