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demosthenes said:
Do you think I'm aiming too low w/ this card then?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447
Well stew posted his similar results (except he has a quad) and his fps is nearly double mine @ 1080, however the 720p results don't agree with this (Being GPU limited).

I'd wait a few days and get some legitimate feedback on the results. Mine shouldn't be what they are...
Signs point to very CPU limited actually :lol
 
Hazaro said:
Well stew posted his similar results (except he has a quad) and his fps is nearly double mine @ 1080, however the 720p results don't agree with this (Being GPU limited).

I'd wait a few days and get some legitimate feedback on the results. Mine shouldn't be what they are...
Signs point to very CPU limited actually :lol

Where was that thread, I missed it. I got a little over 4500 just now, running the benchmark on High w/ a 5870, seems low, but the framerate actually only dipped below 60 twice to the 50s, and the rest of the time was the 70-120s.
 
Minsc said:
Where was that thread, I missed it. I got a little over 4500 just now, running the benchmark on High w/ a 5870, seems low, but the framerate actually only dipped below 60 twice to the 50s, and the rest of the time was the 70-120s.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=22173059#post22173059

I'd be willing to spend more money on upgrading the CPU or GPU if I knew which would help me more...thanks SE on making that incredibly hard :lol
 
I reran the tests and this is what I got:

1080 1 core: 15fps
1080 2 cores: 20fps
720 1 core: 45 fps
720 2 cores (45nm Core2 @ 3.8Ghz): 60fps
Stew's 720 2 cores (65nm Core2 @ 3.4Ghz): 30fps

If the benchmark is CPU limited past dual core (confirmed by brain_stew disabling 2/4 cores) then my results should be the same for 720 and 1080.
There's some weird bug going on for sure.
 
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WEGGLES said:
I believe you need to be an "E-Blast" subscriber for the codes to work.
Hmm, don't know what that is but I used the code to see what the price of one of my carts would be, shuffled some things around, tried to use it again and it said it was invalid. Wasn't stacking codes or anything, just didn't work the second time.
 
Hey guys I'm building a new PC soon enough and I'd like some suggestions, here's what I've got so far:


CPU - AMD Athlon II X3 435 - 2.9 GHz - €65.29 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/786123/art/amd/athlon-ii-x3-435-2-9-ghz.html

MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD3P - €73.99 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/744955/art/gigabyte/ga-ma790x-ud3p-am3-socket.html

GPU - SAPPHIRE TECHNOLOGY Radeon HD 5770 - 1 GB - €128.28 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/801693/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-5770-1-gb-gddr5.html

CASE - COOLER MASTER Elite 310 - €25.30 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/756632/art/cooler-master/elite-310-pc-tower-case-b.html

RAM - OCZ Gold Low Voltage 2 x 2 GB DDR3-1333 - €85.04 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/773727/art/ocz/gold-low-voltage-2-x-2-gb.html

PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-550VXEU PC Power Unit - 550W - €72 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/577561/art/corsair/cmpsu-550vxeu-pc-power-un.html

OPTICAL - Samsung SH-S223B DVD±RW - €17.49 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/samsung/sh-s223b-dvd-rw-22x-inter/735802/fiche.html

HDD - SEAGATE Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive - 500 GB - €35.95 exc. VAT
http://www.pixmania-pro.com/ie/uk/720189/art/seagate/barracuda-7200-12-hard-dr.html

Total = €505exc. VAT

This is the first time I've ever done this, this list is based on some suggestions from another forum I'd like Gaf to weigh in on this. (I'm using Pixmania pro so I can claim VAT back)
 
Hazaro said:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=52824&vpn=HD585XZNFV&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1078
NCIX has a sale on the 5850. If that runs out grab a... 5850 instead. I had no idea the price differences were that much. Very silly.
Grab the 650w Corsair instead.
Grab the 1TB Samsung HDD (Or if you don't think you will use that much ever get the 640GB WD drive)
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Minor things:
Get some thermal paste (MX-2, AS5, AS Cerm) if you think you might have to mount the heatsink more than once.

If you are interested in the SSD still pick that up. It's one of the best investments you can make in a computer.

I'm really just not interested in the 5850. Literally every benchmark I see, Radeon 5850 gets beat (significantly) by the GTX 470. The 5870 gets beat (significantly) by the GTX 480.

I've seen too many people reply with "get the 5850" but I just don't see the reason. Enlighten me?
 
filipe said:
I'm really just not interested in the 5850. Literally every benchmark I see, Radeon 5850 gets beat (significantly) by the GTX 470. The 5870 gets beat (significantly) by the GTX 480.

I've seen too many people reply with "get the 5850" but I just don't see the reason. Enlighten me?

filipe said:
I'm really just not interested in the 5850. Literally every benchmark I see, Radeon 5850 gets beat (significantly) by the GTX 470. The 5870 gets beat (significantly) by the GTX 480.

I've seen too many people reply with "get the 5850" but I just don't see the reason. Enlighten me?

Simple. The GTX 470 and GTX 480 just barely surpass the HD5870 and 5850, sometimes losing out to them. The GTX 480 isn't even running the fulls 512 Shader Processors (the GTX470 has 448 and the GTX 480 has 480) that Nvidia stated it would. The Nvidia cards aren't really bringing anything new to the table as they are actually crippled cards. There's been a ton of posts about this on various forums, esspecially on Nvidia's forums. Add to insult they cost more than the comparable HD5850/HD5870 and consume more power.

Nvidia really dropped the ball on this one. If you really want Nvidia, wait until Fall, when the speculated GTX485 / GF100 is supposed to drop.

You can get a HD5870 at $399.99 vs the GTX 480 at $499.99, both running at the same performance levels.
 
Alright, alright, I THINK I've finally been convinced and figured out my final build. I did a lot of reading previously on the AMD, and then just now on the 5870 vs. gtx 480, and really, for an extra $100 bucks almost for frames I won't see, it's not worth it. The 5870 holds it's own.

My final build, let me know guys...

*Ignore the WD 500, I have a 640 in it's place. Soooooooo...

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Everything look good? No mistakes, everything will work together? God I hope I can finally order this stuff!
 
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Xirj said:
There hasn't been much movement. AMD hasn't really countered i5/i7 heavily and we're still talking about the same graphics cards as 6 months ago. Both AMD and Nvidia have just been rolling out new "in-between" models but not updating or reducing the prices on the 5770, 5850, 5870, etc. Prices will probably remain pretty stagnant through the holidays as Sandy Bridge will no doubt be priced too high at the get-go.
ah. thanks
 
filipe said:
Alright, alright, I THINK I've finally been convinced and figured out my final build. I did a lot of reading previously on the AMD, and then just now on the 5870 vs. gtx 480, and really, for an extra $100 bucks almost for frames I won't see, it's not worth it. The 5870 holds it's own.

My final build, let me know guys...

*Ignore the WD 500, I have a 640 in it's place. Soooooooo...

http://i.imgur.com/QpwAH.png

Everything look good? No mistakes, everything will work together? God I hope I can finally order this stuff!
Is there any reason you're going with a CM690 instead of a CM690-2? I don't know what your budget is so the CM690-2 Advanced's $90 price may be more than you're willing to pay. For the $70 that a CM690 costs, you can have a CM690-2 Basic. I can't think of a single thing that the 690 has over the improved 690-2. What's more, it's being offered with free shipping:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1119215&cm_re=cm690_ii-_-11-119-215-_-Product
 
·feist· said:
Is there any reason you're going with a CM690 instead of a CM690-2? I don't know what your budget is so the CM690-2 Advanced's $90 price may be more than you're willing to pay. For the $70 that a CM690 costs, you can have a CM690-2 Basic. I can't think of a single thing that the 690 has over the improved 690-2. What's more, it's being offered with free shipping:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1119215&cm_re=cm690_ii-_-11-119-215-_-Product

$109 vs. $69, both with shipping. Canada, it sucks.

Either than the case, everything looks like it's in order?
 
Strange, they're priced the same in the U.S. A 92mm HSF wouldn't necessarily be my first choice for that type of build, but as long as you aren't planning on a big overclock, you'll be more than fine. Good selection of some quality parts, and while the PSU isn't modular, you have enough room behind the HDD cage and back panel to hide any unused cables.
 
·feist· said:
Strange, they're priced the same in the U.S. A 92mm HSF wouldn't necessarily be my first choice for that type of build, but as long as you aren't planning on a big overclock, you'll be more than fine. Good selection of some quality parts, and while the PSU isn't modular, you have enough room behind the HDD cage and back panel to hide any unused cables.

Actually, nevermind, the one below the 109 is the one you mentioned. I'll grab it instead, for 10 bucks more, doesn't hurt.
 
filipe said:
Actually, nevermind, the one below the 109 is the one you mentioned. I'll grab it instead, for 10 bucks more, doesn't hurt.

feist· talked me into that same case and it worked out great. Cable management was easy, though, I wish I would have went with a modular PSU. Good airflow, my temperatures have been quite low even after overclocking my CPU and GPU.
 
I really need to build a new gaming rig and I am on a budget, Can anyone help me put something together for around $600?

I would really appreciate it.
 
JetBlackPanda said:
I really need to build a new gaming rig and I am on a budget, Can anyone help me put something together for around $600?

I would really appreciate it.

Are you keeping any old parts? (monitor, case, mouse/keyboard, etc.)
 
Good news everyone! My baby rig posted and everything is running flawlessly so far. I plan to install most of the games later today, the only one I had a chance to install was TF 2, overall temps ATM are 35c for the case and 37c for CPU so far while AS5 breaks in. I have not opened that 23" Led LCD monitor yet but wil later as well, will post impressions about it.


Oh and yeah.. I ordered an mx510 from amazon earlier today to replace my old mx310 (which is still kicking ass but looks a lil worn) it'll be along my new saitek eclipse that I find freaking amazing so far!
 
filipe said:
Alright, alright, I THINK I've finally been convinced and figured out my final build. I did a lot of reading previously on the AMD, and then just now on the 5870 vs. gtx 480, and really, for an extra $100 bucks almost for frames I won't see, it's not worth it. The 5870 holds it's own.

My final build, let me know guys...

Everything look good? No mistakes, everything will work together? God I hope I can finally order this stuff!
Swap mobo to this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435
No point in having 3x PCI-E slots.

Otherwise everything should be in order. I can tell you to lower the PSU to a 650w Corsair for the 4th time, but other than that I hope we are done. :D
JetBlackPanda said:
I really need to build a new gaming rig and I am on a budget, Can anyone help me put something together for around $600?

I would really appreciate it.
*Reposting*
1)Basic Desktop Questions

Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Gaming, Video editing, or just general usage
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Self Explanatory

2)General Guide on what to buy (Summer)
Tech Report Builders Guide!
A very good basic guide that has been updated for Summer. Has alternative options and many price points.

Specifically the Econobox: http://techreport.com/articles.x/19159/2
Swap in a 5770/4870/4890 and see if you can upgrade your RAM to 4GB, but other than that you are golden.
 
Almost done building this monster.
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i7 980x (hex-core with hyperthreading)
eVGA Classified 3-Way SLI motherboard
3x2GB Corsair Dominator 2000mhz DDR3 RAM
2 GTX 480 Hydro Copper FTW video cards
Silverstone 1500W Strider Series PSU
160GB Intel X-25M G2 MLC II boot drive
3x 1.5 TB Seagate Barracuda capture/storage drive

Shitload of water cooling stuffs.
 
Felix Lighter said:
feist· talked me into that same case and it worked out great. Cable management was easy, though, I wish I would have went with a modular PSU. Good airflow, my temperatures have been quite low even after overclocking my CPU and GPU.
I love my Advanced. The Corsair 600T is probably one of the few mid towers that I'd consider over it, but at about $60 more than I paid for mine, I think I can pass. There was a brief 24hr sale on the Lancool K62 some days ago that I almost bit on. It had gone down from $110 to $70, which is insane for that case. By the time I stopped resisting the sale had expired.

Anyway, I'm currently trying to decide if I should have a go at modding the Antec Big Boy 200mm into the front of my case.

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filipe said:
Actually, nevermind, the one below the 109 is the one you mentioned. I'll grab it instead, for 10 bucks more, doesn't hurt.
Good luck, and if you haven't already done so, please listen to Hazaro's advice:


Hazaro said:
Swap mobo to this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435
No point in having 3x PCI-E slots.

Otherwise everything should be in order. I can tell you to lower the PSU to a 650w Corsair for the 4th time, but other than that I hope we are done. :D
I thought he was just leaving some overhead for a future multi-card set up and any additional components. As you've said, 750w is a good bit more than he actually needs if that isn't the case.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012&Tpk=hx650

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=tx650
 
Heya!
I need help and tips from PC Gaf in order to build my very first PC. Deadline: 22 September 2010 (when FFXIV comes out).
I know not much about building PCs, but would like to start buying a good motherboard, CPU and GPU (not gonna buy all in once, or my wife gonna kill me, eheh)...

I was thinking of:

Asus P6 X58D (Motherboard)


Intel Core i7 875K 2.93Ghz (CPU)

HIS ATI Radeon 5970 (GPU)

I know they are very good (and expensive) components, but I would like to have advice whether or not buy them now or wait a little (any price cut on the way?) and if they'll be good to run ffxiv at its best.

Thanks Gaf!
 
Well, I'm about done with everything. The new case is working great and the 5770-VX runs quiet and OC's nicely for a $140 card. I'm @ 950/1350 at present and the fan never goes above 50%.

It's a nice little step up from my dying 4770. I suppose when FFXIV hits the street in September I'll could upgrade again with a dual PCI-e Motherboard and another 5770. By then prices should be near the $100 mark.


Ended up leaving my processor at the 12.5 multiplier instead of 13. This allows me to keep the HT Link at 2000 and my ram at 800 while allowing me to under-volt the X4-620 to keep the temps @ 55c under full load yet still achieve a decent overclock from 2.6Ghz to 3.125Ghz. It also gave me the best performance for the FFXIV benchmark and it ran very very smooth even at 1080p.

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720p
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1080p
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Rough Guesstimate cost if I built the entire thing right now and changed it a little:
Antec 300 Black Illusion Case = 50ish
5770-VX = 140ish
4GB Ram (PC6400 ddr2) = 70ish
500GB HDD = 45ish
Lite-On DVD drive = 30ish
785G xfire MB = 70ish
Athlon II x4 630 = 90ish
500W PSU (Earthwatts, etc) = 55ish

Total = $550.00 give or take a few.

Add another 5770 and Xfire = $700 or just get a 58xx and scrap the two 5770's
 
Mystery said:
Almost done building this monster.

i7 980x (hex-core with hyperthreading)
eVGA Classified 3-Way SLI motherboard
3x2GB Corsair Dominator 2000mhz DDR3 RAM
2 GTX 480 Hydro Copper FTW video cards
Silverstone 1500W Strider Series PSU
160GB Intel X-25M G2 MLC II boot drive
3x 1.5 TB Seagate Barracuda capture/storage drive

Shitload of water cooling stuffs.
Holy shit........
Holy fucking shit.........
Sir, you must get an award for spending the most money possible on a rig. You'd best benchmark that shit for us when its all set up. I am so jealous right now :(


Would the econobox be a good build for a friend if he has a 8800GTS G92 card to reuse?
 
is the FFXIV benchmark more of a GPU stress test than CPU? There are times where my CPU is only reading 11% usage and it is during the boat raid attack with all of the rain. It could be because I'm only running it at 720p, but i'm not sure.

My GTS 250 nets a score of 2611 at 720p

I will test with my HD 5850 tomorrow to see how big of an improvement there really is:D
 
Lkr said:
is the FFXIV benchmark more of a GPU stress test than CPU? There are times where my CPU is only reading 11% usage and it is during the boat raid attack with all of the rain. It could be because I'm only running it at 720p, but i'm not sure.

My GTS 250 nets a score of 2611 at 720p

I will test with my HD 5850 tomorrow to see how big of an improvement there really is:D

I say it's GPU more than CPU. I base that on my scores going from a 4770 to a 5770 and from watching the usage numbers in open hardware monitor while running the benchmark.

You should hit 4500-5000 with a 5850
 
MidgarBlowedUp said:
I say it's GPU more than CPU. I base that on my scores going from a 4770 to a 5770 and from watching the usage numbers in open hardware monitor while running the benchmark.

You should hit 4500-5000 with a 5850

Well, being a benchmark it's definitely harder on the GPU. My score only goes up about 1k between 720p and 1080p (~4350 to ~5350).

The game itself, however, is going to murder CPUs. Be prepared.
 
Wallach said:
Well, being a benchmark it's definitely harder on the GPU. My score only goes up about 1k between 720p and 1080p (~4350 to ~5350).

The game itself, however, is going to murder CPUs. Be prepared.

Your scaring me.
 
FFXIV Benchmark on my i7 860 w/5850 is 5639 @ 720p, 4020 @ 1080p.

I suspect on the 1080p run something else on my system started hitting my HDD though, so it probably is a bit low.
 
Mystery said:
Almost done building this monster.

i7 980x (hex-core with hyperthreading)
eVGA Classified 3-Way SLI motherboard
3x2GB Corsair Dominator 2000mhz DDR3 RAM
2 GTX 480 Hydro Copper FTW video cards
Silverstone 1500W Strider Series PSU
160GB Intel X-25M G2 MLC II boot drive
3x 1.5 TB Seagate Barracuda capture/storage drive

Shitload of water cooling stuffs.
Do you only have 1 pump powering dual 120.3 rads?
Also goddam. :lol
Ciccio_Drink said:
Heya!
I need help and tips from PC Gaf in order to build my very first PC. Deadline: 22 September 2010 (when FFXIV comes out).
I'd wait until some real benchmarks come out.
MidgarBlowedUp said:
Well, I'm about done with everything. The new case is working great and the 5770-VX runs quiet and OC's nicely for a $140 card. I'm @ 950/1350 at present and the fan never goes above 50%.

Rough Guesstimate cost if I built the entire thing right now and changed it a little:
Antec 300 Black Illusion Case = 50ish
5770-VX = 140ish
4GB Ram (PC6400 ddr2) = 70ish
500GB HDD = 45ish
Lite-On DVD drive = 30ish
785G xfire MB = 70ish
Athlon II x4 630 = 90ish
500W PSU (Earthwatts, etc) = 55ish

Total = $550.00 give or take a few.
Excellent!
Lkr said:
Would the econobox be a good build for a friend if he has a 8800GTS G92 card to reuse?
Sure would!
Wallach said:
Well, being a benchmark it's definitely harder on the GPU. My score only goes up about 1k between 720p and 1080p (~4350 to ~5350).

The game itself, however, is going to murder CPUs. Be prepared.
The benchmark is screwed up. It handled threading in the weirdest way possible generating impossible results. Just wait a few days and we can have people test the actual beta.

See the last few pages of this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371770
 
Yeah, I saw your guys' findings (though I don't know what kind of impact that has running 4 cores).

Still, just being an MMO of this variety means the in-game CPU usage is going to be massive at times. None of that CPU work is present in the benchmark, bugs or not.
 
Hazaro said:
Swap mobo to this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435
No point in having 3x PCI-E slots.

Otherwise everything should be in order. I can tell you to lower the PSU to a 650w Corsair for the 4th time, but other than that I hope we are done. :D

I'm a very cautionary kind of guy, plus if I ever plan on doing some updates, I'll have a higher PSU. Pllllllluuuusssss.... the 650TX is 109, whereas the 750TX is 115. So an extra 6 bucks, might as well grab the 750TX.

Can you further explain why to grab that MoBo? I'm under my budget, plus it's only 40 dollars more. Let me know.

Also, would it recommend, since I'm under budget, to grab 6GBs instead of the 4GB? Just for a bit of extra memory for the future? If so, which?
 
filipe said:
I'm a very cautionary kind of guy, plus if I ever plan on doing some updates, I'll have a higher PSU. Pllllllluuuusssss.... the 650TX is 109, whereas the 750TX is 115. So an extra 6 bucks, might as well grab the 750TX.

Can you further explain why to grab that MoBo? I'm under my budget, plus it's only 40 dollars more. Let me know.

Also, would it recommend, since I'm under budget, to grab 6GBs instead of the 4GB? Just for a bit of extra memory for the future? If so, which?
>No point in having 3x PCI-E slots. That's why the mobo is more expensive. Additionally it is 4x speed which is not optimal for a GPU anyway.

750w is fine.

4GB is a good amount for running almost anything. If you work with photoshop 3200x3200 images while you encode HD video in the background you can consider 8GB.
RAM is one of the easiest things to upgrade so I wouldn't worry about picking up 8GB now. You can always get another 4GB later for cheaper.
 
Alright Hazaro, you've been a giant help, and the rest of you guys as well. I forget the name now, but the one with the Blue Engi avatar, you've been a giant help too.

Thanks a lot guys.
 
Hazaro said:
Do you only have 1 pump powering dual 120.3 rads?
Also goddam. :lol

2 Pumps (swiftech mcp655, and 355) powering 3 rads - 2 360s, 1 240).

There's a 360 rad mounted to the the top of the case, and one mounted on the back, externally. I modded the Corsair 800D case to take the 3.5" hard drive bay out of the under-compartment, and there's a 240 rad down there.

Loops go like so:

XSPC 5.25" res - mcp355 - CPU (apogee xt block) - 360 rad - res

XSPC 5.25" res - mcp655 - 240 rad - GPU 2 - GPU 1 - Chipset block - external 360 rad - res

As soon as I get some nice stable overclocks on both the CPU and GPUs, I'll run some benches. It's at 4 ghz now, but I should be able to pump it up to 4.6 24/7.
 
Mystery said:
2 Pumps (swiftech mcp655, and 355) powering 3 rads - 2 360s, 1 240).

As soon as I get some nice stable overclocks on both the CPU and GPUs, I'll run some benches. It's at 4 ghz now, but I should be able to pump it up to 4.6 24/7.
I just noticed that the CPU is 32nm! I have been out of the loop on the super high end ever since I stopped benchmarking myself so to see a 6 core, 12 thread, 32nm CPU is something.

That much said I advise caution in pumping the voltage too high on that poor chip :lol
I know you know, but I'll say it anyway.

Also 4.6 seems a tad high, maybe 4.3 or 4.4, hope I am wrong though :D
 
So i need a new laptop. I currently have a g51 and it's a beast to lug around.
Im looking for a 13-15 inch laptop that will play games well (mostly ffxiv when it comes out). I've looked at the new Asus timeline with the 5650, envy 14 and 15.
Any other suggestions? I would love a screen with 1600x900 screen or higher like the Envys.
 
asdad123 said:
So i need a new laptop. I currently have a g51 and it's a beast to lug around.
Im looking for a 13-15 inch laptop that will play games well (mostly ffxiv) when it comes out. I've looked at the new Asus timeline with the 5650, envy 14 and 15.
Any other suggestions? I would love a screen with 1600x900 screen or higher like the Envys.
I personally can't help you with laptops but we have a few members here who can.
Filling this out should help them help you as well.

4) Prospective laptop buyers please fill this out (and maybe even ask their forum):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...ould-i-buy-form-must-read-before-posting.html
 
So I started to put Windows onto my system, but ran into an error. Apparently the computer isn't reading my HDD, because when I try and choose a storage device, the menu shows no option to choose. I have a 500GB WD HDD hooked up via one SATA power cable and one SATA cable running to the mobo.

I have another HDD, but the mobo doesn't support the cable that runs from the HDD to it, so I cannot hook it up.

Halp D:
 
So I'm running on a PC that was built 6 years ago. I think it's time to upgrade before StarCraft 2 comes out. I'm putting a list together and looking at this thead, the i5 750 seems to be a popular choice. Now if I were to overclock it, will the stock heatsink and fan be sufficient? If not, any recommendations?
 
Kenak said:
So I started to put Windows onto my system, but ran into an error. Apparently the computer isn't reading my HDD, because when I try and choose a storage device, the menu shows no option to choose. I have a 500GB WD HDD hooked up via one SATA power cable and one SATA cable running to the mobo.

I have another HDD, but the mobo doesn't support the cable that runs from the HDD to it, so I cannot hook it up.

Halp D:

Does it find it in the bios?


Nightz said:
So I'm running on a PC that was built 6 years ago. I think it's time to upgrade before StarCraft 2 comes out. I'm putting a list together and looking at this thead, the i5 750 seems to be a popular choice. Now if I were to overclock it, will the stock heatsink and fan be sufficient? If not, any recommendations?

Really depends on a couple factors, including how cool your case is already and how much you intend to overclock. Aftermarket coolers are so cheap though so it's silly not to get one especially to keep temps down and let you overclock further usually.
 
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