So I have had my GTX 460 OC'd for a few days and everything works like a champ except for Crysis. It has stopped responding and crashed 3 times while playing. It is running like shit anyways (had to run in vista sp2 compatibility mode, every time I change graphical settings it crashes) do you think the problems are just related to Crysis being fucked up on Win 7 64 bit or could it be instability from my overclocked card? I've turned the OC down from 865mhz to 850 and it still locked up again.
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Solid 500W is fine. CPU/GPU/Mobo makes up most power consumption.Alex said:
Overclocking can add quite a bit of wattage.
This 650w is a great deal
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemai...72310-_-EMC-072310-IndexC-_-E0E-_-Memory#Fave
Crysis was always picky about my overclocks. Maybe try lowering your memory overclock to something like 999MHz. Does your overclock survive FURmark?Amneisac said:
850Mhz might still be too high.
darkiguana
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I did it
I got the computer built and it is running like a dream Hit a few minor snags along the way(confusion about ide vs sata cables), but it is finished and running smooth. I just need to get my cruddy crt monitor switched out with my flat screen and I will be all set.
I got the computer built and it is running like a dream Hit a few minor snags along the way(confusion about ide vs sata cables), but it is finished and running smooth. I just need to get my cruddy crt monitor switched out with my flat screen and I will be all set.Yeah that's just furmark.Amneisac said:
Drastically reduce clocks back to stock and see if you still get issues.
Pics!darkiguana said:I did it
The_Inquisitor
Member
Dude holy shit guys. If you buy that suggested PSU and RAM newegg will take an additional 15 dollars off as a combo discount. I think it may stack with Bing too, but not sure yet.
For anyone looking to build an AMD system, you now have another option to go along with Microcenter's X4 CPU + free mobo deal.
Fry's is doing a combo for an X6 1055T + MSI 890 board for $255 (the MSI alone is $130):
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
& MSI 890GXM-G65 Motherboard Bundle Combo
Price: $254.99
http://www.frys.com/product/6237960
Pics and reviews of the board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269
Fry's is doing a combo for an X6 1055T + MSI 890 board for $255 (the MSI alone is $130):
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
& MSI 890GXM-G65 Motherboard Bundle Combo
Price: $254.99
http://www.frys.com/product/6237960
Pics and reviews of the board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269
The_Inquisitor
Member
Uhh quick question. Why doesnt it say this mobo supports SLI? In fact, it only mentions ATI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412&Tpk=P55A-UD3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412&Tpk=P55A-UD3
Alright video card question....how good is this XFX 5850?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._mmc=OTC-C173T-_-Video+Cards-_-XFX-_-14150494
On sale for 249.99 through July 25, a couple days. The cooler on it looks a bit strange where I can get this one for nearly the same price with bing cashback:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6078264&CatId=3669
Or there is even a 5870 for 330 w/ bing cashback and AvsP included:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6251699&CatId=3669
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._mmc=OTC-C173T-_-Video+Cards-_-XFX-_-14150494
On sale for 249.99 through July 25, a couple days. The cooler on it looks a bit strange where I can get this one for nearly the same price with bing cashback:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6078264&CatId=3669
Or there is even a 5870 for 330 w/ bing cashback and AvsP included:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6251699&CatId=3669
The_Inquisitor
Member
Blah I can't find a good HDD deal. Should I just hold off for a few days and see what pops up?
Edit: Actually is this a good deal?
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2144348
If not, any suggestions for stable yet affordable 1TB+ drives?
Edit2: Does that mobo I bought come with a wireless card, or do I need to purchase one? If so, what's a good cheapie?
Edit: Actually is this a good deal?
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2144348
If not, any suggestions for stable yet affordable 1TB+ drives?
Edit2: Does that mobo I bought come with a wireless card, or do I need to purchase one? If so, what's a good cheapie?
Setvan2734
Member
Hey, I am purchasing a laptop soon, and i was wondering if it would cause damage to the laptop, if it was left in its packaging inside a van for 3 days. Long story why this needs to happen, but will it be OK in there and not have any damage to it?
Thanks
Thanks
I'm extremely intimidated by building my own PC but I really want to switch over to PC gaming. I don't know very much about PC specs and graphic cards so I'd prefer going with a pre-built system. I saw this HP desktop on sale for $999 on newegg today.
HP Pavilion Elite HPE-250F Intel Core i7 860(2.80GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB ATI Radeon HD 5770 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Is it a good deal, and would run games like crysis on decent settings?
Any help would be appreciated thanks.
HP Pavilion Elite HPE-250F Intel Core i7 860(2.80GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB ATI Radeon HD 5770 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Is it a good deal, and would run games like crysis on decent settings?
Any help would be appreciated thanks.
Felix Lighter
Member
SuperAwesome said:
Yeah, I know they're acceptable. I was just expecting a little better especially after seeing several others maintaining temps in the low 50s overclocked and under load.
As for stability, after a few stress tests and daily use, I'm happy with the stability but maybe I can reach a higher overclock with the same voltage if I raise the base clock and lower the multiplier. I'll do some more experimenting at some point.
Hazaro said:
I can accept that. It should be fine where it's at. I guess that saves me a few bucks and some aggravation.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
Setvan2734 said:
don't see a problem at all. laptops and desks are designed to run at high temps and since you aren't turning it on it should be fine.
it's a fine system but I really think building yourself is the way to go. it is VERY easy nowadays to build yourself.
Guys, can anyone tell me how I'm supposed to get my usb to boot memtest86?
I downloaded the memtest86 the USB version and it even though the install procedure seems simple and hard to fuck up, memtest didnt start when I put the usb in my newly bought desktop ( which I fear have bad ram ).
I'm going to try another USB but I dont know
...
edit : am I supposed to do something at startup or is it ( memtest ) going to boot itself? Fuck I suck at this, sorry
I downloaded the memtest86 the USB version and it even though the install procedure seems simple and hard to fuck up, memtest didnt start when I put the usb in my newly bought desktop ( which I fear have bad ram ).
I'm going to try another USB but I dont know
...edit : am I supposed to do something at startup or is it ( memtest ) going to boot itself? Fuck I suck at this, sorry
You have to make sure you have it set to boot from the usb stick (which, in my experience, can be tricky). You might want to go ahead and make a bootable disc and just boot from your disc drive which is generally more straightforward.
You have to go into your bios and set the boot order. If you can't even get into your bios I'm not sure what; maybe do a hard bios reset by popping out the MB battery? There should be instructions on that in the instruction booklet.
You have to go into your bios and set the boot order. If you can't even get into your bios I'm not sure what; maybe do a hard bios reset by popping out the MB battery? There should be instructions on that in the instruction booklet.
Boonoo said:
Yea man I figured as much, I fiddled around in my laptops bios and changed the boot order so the USB was higher prio, and that did the trick memtest started and went at it.
But when I try to access my motherfucking bios on my cocksucking pc I cant, it crashes just at " Wait "..... IVE BEEN WAITING FOR HOURS WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO BE WAITING FOR?!
This guy, hooo boy, this guy... if it turns out that he either lied to me or tricked me or whatever, he is going to regret giving me his adress and letting me come into his home and pick up this piece of shit PC.
The_Inquisitor
Member
Thanks for hardware advice everyone! Rig will be completely purchased component wise by tomorrow.
Now what utilities/programs do I need for when I start overclocking/check to make sure everything is in good shape?
Now what utilities/programs do I need for when I start overclocking/check to make sure everything is in good shape?
So I posted this another site. Apparently the cause of my freezing/crashes with my OC to my CPU were not Vcore based, but rather PSU based. I'm going to get a PSU this week. Also I put my 8800GT back in, because if I put my GTX470 in it would freeze at the Windows 7 Welcome screen.
Ugh what a nightmare.
After 2.5 years I finally find out that OCZ was never a good PSU maker. Yay for being once new to the building scene. Also yay for having to waste $160 on a Corsair HX750.
Also I know it isn't my graphics card failing or dying, because it can run fine in safe mode and in normal windows 7 without drivers being installed, the second the drivers are installed it seems that initiating it to do any kind of processing takes too much juice. Also I tested the RAM sticks and Hard Drive, and none of my capacitors on my mobo are leaking. If the PSU doesn't fix it, then I'm just going to RMA the GPU.
Ugh what a nightmare.
After 2.5 years I finally find out that OCZ was never a good PSU maker. Yay for being once new to the building scene. Also yay for having to waste $160 on a Corsair HX750.
Also I know it isn't my graphics card failing or dying, because it can run fine in safe mode and in normal windows 7 without drivers being installed, the second the drivers are installed it seems that initiating it to do any kind of processing takes too much juice. Also I tested the RAM sticks and Hard Drive, and none of my capacitors on my mobo are leaking. If the PSU doesn't fix it, then I'm just going to RMA the GPU.
Moneyhats.The_Inquisitor said:
It'll work with both.
Pretty good. At least it's in the competitive price range for a GTX460 nowMrbob said:
Well if he let you in I'd certainly hope he thought it was working (after all it was working with his RAM) right?Corky said:
What did memtest say? Did it error?
In the OP.The_Inquisitor said:
Intel Burn is a tad excessive imo.
Some OCZ's are fine. Did you have a warranty?Smash88 said:
Hazaro said:
well here's the problem.
When my buddy and I went to his place he booted up the PC and showed me that it " worked " but the PC was only on for like 5 minutes so I'm still not sure if the PC in general is healthy and its just the new corsair ram that I put in it thats faulty.
Problem is that my buddy got the old ram as a thanks for helping me and driving me to this dudes place, I spoke to him tho so he will be here in a couple of hours with the old ram to see if they work.
Another problem is that I cant access BIOS all of the sudden so I cant change boot-priority and subsequently run memtest.
I'm seriously at a loss, if the old ram doesnt help the crashes I...I dont know what I'll do....
here's the plan however so someone please correct me if my procedure is wrong
1. Cut off power
2. Remove suspect faulty ram, both sticks
3. Insert old ram, the 2x1gb in Dimm A1 and B1, and the 2*512mb in A2 and B2 ( this was the configuration the guy ran at home, which he also tells me "works" )
4. Remove mobo battery, wait a while, insert battery
5. Restore power
6. Press F2 for default mobosettings
7. Pray for that little boy I bought it from cause if it doesn't work...
Hazaro said:
Nope no warranty. Or if I did it expired in the first year. I have the GamerXStream 700W. I guess my CPU and GPU OC were too much for it. Who knows. Although, my crashes started to be more frequent, and I thought my CPU Vcore was unstable, but after all this time it seems my PSU was too blame. Because I have tried every type of Vcore. :lol
Corky said:
Dude you need to chill out. I understand you might have got screwed or it looks like the comp is broken. But you will get nowhere when heated. I know because I have been in your situation and made things a lot worse.
There should be a button that brings up a "Boot Menu", for me it is the ESC button, so you don't even need to access the BIOS. Also maybe the mobo doesn't support PC8500? Or maybe your RAM sticks got shocked in the process of transfer. I wasn't there so I can't really know what happened. If the computer worked with the old sticks, then I don't think it is the fault of the guy who sold it to you.
Also you can try one stick at a time, and maybe with one of the sticks it might boot up. Maybe one of them went dead.
I need to say maybe a couple of more times, maybe I missed some...just maybe. :lol
Smash88 said:
I know man, I need to cool down. It's just that my luck with electronics in general is fucking guiness book of record worthy ( " Step right up and meet the man whos purchase failurerate is 100% " , *the crowd ooohs and aaahs ).
the DEL button brings up my bios, I know this because it worked last night, now it suddenly doesn't.
This is what a review states about my motherboard, and I'm too stupid to decipher it and acertain wether or not it supports the ram I'm holding in my hand in the pictures above
" 4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1300(O.C.)/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel memory architecture
*Due to AMD CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 is supported by AM3/AM2+ CPU for one DIMM per channel only.
**Due to OS limitation, when installing total memory of 4GB capacity or more, Windows® 32-bit operation system may only recognize less than 3GB. Hence, a total installed memory of less than 3GB is recommended.
***Refer to www.asus.com or the user manual for the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lidts) "
Corky said:
Can you tell me your motherboard model just so I can check it. It seems to support your RAM, but then again, I'm not sure if it supports PC8500 (event thought it seems you have the Dominator 1066. Some motherboards can be finicky (weird) about it.
Also try the ESC, or if you can find it online somewhere, to whatever button might get you to a boot menu, and not the BIOS. Two different things. For me it says "Press ESC for Boot Menu". Then again, I can't really read up on your mobo since I don't know the exact model.
*Due to AMD CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 is supported by AM3/AM2+ CPU for one DIMM per channel only.
Also it seems it supports it in one channel. Try putting the RAM sticks in two different channels (different coloured slots). I'm not too familiar with AMD cpu's, but it wouldn't hurt to try if you haven't already.
Smash88 said:
thank you for helping me :
here is my motherboard
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/m4n82deluxe/
The manual states that the recommended configs for ram is to always have them in the same coloured slots, unless you roll with 4 sticks obviously. But there might lie something in what you say. But then again, could such a "small" thing fuck up everything soo bad that it crashes constantly and fucks my bios and so on and so forth.
I will try to figure how to access the Boot menu, but it'll be tough, it's like russian roulette with this thing ; crashes 95% of the time at boot.
edit :
well it seems pretty clear here that the motherboard supports the kind of ram I have in it atm
hey guys
update :
removed the battery and inserted it again. Now I can access BIOS, I reconfigured the boot priority so now I've managed to finally get memtest going.
Heres how it looks now while I'm still running it ( the error count is up to 130 000+ atm )
Now obviously something is up. What does all that mean ? What confuses me is where it says " settings: ram : 400 mhz ddr800 / cas 5-5-5-18 " though the ram I put in it is 1066mhz and 5-5-5-15,does this affect the error-messages? Do I have to access the BIOS again and make sure all the settings are corrent and run memtest again or are the ram sticks broken regardless?
Help to understand whats going on would be appreciated, at least I can cool down knowing that the ram is whats behind the PC fucking up. Rather cheap solution than having 2 burned out GPUs or whatever
again thank you gaf for all the provided help
update :
removed the battery and inserted it again. Now I can access BIOS, I reconfigured the boot priority so now I've managed to finally get memtest going.
Heres how it looks now while I'm still running it ( the error count is up to 130 000+ atm )
Now obviously something is up. What does all that mean ? What confuses me is where it says " settings: ram : 400 mhz ddr800 / cas 5-5-5-18 " though the ram I put in it is 1066mhz and 5-5-5-15,does this affect the error-messages? Do I have to access the BIOS again and make sure all the settings are corrent and run memtest again or are the ram sticks broken regardless?
Help to understand whats going on would be appreciated, at least I can cool down knowing that the ram is whats behind the PC fucking up. Rather cheap solution than having 2 burned out GPUs or whatever
again thank you gaf for all the provided help
Corky said:
Try running the test with only one stick at a time. That many errors usually indicates at least one of the modules is completely fucked. Then again if you are going to return the item as a pair it probably doesn't matter, but yeah, one of those is bad. It's not as uncommon as you think to return that many errors.
As an OS drive? No. Either switch that to a WD Black or go for a Samsung F3.The_Inquisitor said:
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
$64.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340562
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
$89.99
$10 off with promo code EMCYVNY46, ends 7/26
$79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
$94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
I've been running an i5 for a while now and thinking of overclocking it but I'm scared of messing around with voltages and such. Is there an automatic OC tool for the i5 line?
My computer seems to suck at doing simple things like; Sleeping, shutting down / starting up, and running some CPU intensive programs.
So I'm hoping that the OC will help with this a bit.
My computer seems to suck at doing simple things like; Sleeping, shutting down / starting up, and running some CPU intensive programs.
So I'm hoping that the OC will help with this a bit.
Usually motherboard vendors have specific overclocking/monitoring suites for their particular boards. Some are good, ASUS/Gigabyte have good OC utilities, others, not so much.Sebulon3k said:
What is your motherboard, I'm sure someone here can find the relevant software for you.
Edit: Looking at the post again makes me think this may be more HDD related than CPU. Have you defragged recently? And no, the inbuilt windows util doesn't count.
http://www.mydefrag.com/ <--If people have a uber rig yet doesn't use this tool, you're doing it wrong.
1-D_FTW said:
thanks buddy, I'll keep that in mind.
And thanks to everybody who helped and tolerated my obvious ´panic behaviour. The ram is busted so I had my friend give me the 3gb that was in it to begin with. Now it works like a charm ^_^
Now to find out how to optimize crysis, I tried the 2007 demo had everything on very high and 1080p and 2x AA, got around 20ish fps which is guess isnt bad at all.
;D
SuperAwesome
Member
Corky said:
you should apologize to the dude that sold you it.
Corky said:
Did you ever change the voltage on the new RAM you got? If you were trying to run it undervolted, you wouldn't have gotten far. I noticed that in the manual picture you posted, it was rated at 2.1V, and a lot of motherboards like to default to 1.5 or 1.8v for the RAM.
SuperAwesome
Member
Corky said:
Wait, he tried to sell you the RAM that didn't work as well as the computer?