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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Edition of SSD's for everyone! |OT|
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fizzelopeguss
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Apart from a hot chick with her legs spread, i don't think there's anything more boner inducing than a table filled with boxed computer parts ready to be torn open.
Funky Papa
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*brofist*fizzelopeguss said:
MisterAnderson said:
It's the same. If you ever have any doubt, just click the details tab and compare each line. That'll tell you all you need to know (and is all I just did).
The only other difference that might be unlisted is what kind of brand-specific cooler it is using. As these are both reference cards (meaning, the design provided by Nvidia), that is a non-issue here.
I hate to be a unfeeling bastard, but that's exactly why one should stay away from dual-gpu setups. That kind of option, IMO, should only be used by hardcore builders and enthusiasts with some ridiculous setup. At PDXLAN, the guys with tri-580s are also running three 1080p monitors with 3D or some other crazy crap going on. Despite my love for building and tinkering, I've stayed away from that ever since my headaches with SLI 260s, and a terrible experience getting 4870s to run in crossfire on a friend's rig. Just get a single good card, upgrade when it starts to show its age.Corky said:Well I thought my gtx 460 sli was rather carefree to be honest. The only troubles I really ran into was that brand new games sometimes lacked SLI compatibility.
*far from it
mkenyon said:
Right now that seems to be the direction I'll be taking. Oh well time will tell.
On another note. How are soundcards? I've been eyeing the Asus Sonar DS, are they cumbersome? Like drivers and shit fucking up everything and making things crash and whatnot
Actually, soundcards are what prevent that. Onboard audio has a tendency to be funky every now and then, which is the exact reason why I bought a Xonar DX. The onboard audio for my Crossfire IV didnt like a couple of games and was causing some random crashes. Might have made a different choice on the exact card, but was the only decent one at my local computer shop. Bit-tech swears by doing so for the same reason.
For audio jack headphones, yes. A soundcard will give you a noticeable improvement in sound quality if it's a good one. I should note, that despite the higher SQ, I only upgraded because I was having compatibility issues. It's very much along the lines of how much does good sound mean to you, and how much you are willing to pay for it. As far as one card from another, it's completely beyond my realm of expertise.Corky said:
Nope! Ran turtle beach back in the day when onboard sound would completely destroy your performance, and been running onboard for the past 5 years until just recently.vazel said:
Advance_Alarm
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this is going to be the first computer im building so bear with me. i plan on buying in a month or two
MSI 870A-G54
AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE
EVGA GeForce GTX460 1GB
GSKILL 4gb DDR3 RAM
Apevia 520w power supply
ASUS DVD burner
Samsung F3 1TB HDD
Centurion II 5 Case
Since this is my first one I wouldn't mind if someone looked it over to make sure its not garbage. I plan on running it normal for a while, and then getting some more fans and OC'ing. The question I have is mainly about the mobo, does that have any bearing on whether you can OC or not. On newegg the AMD black edition processors say they can be OC'ed, but I've been reading this thread and it looks like the mobo also has something to do with it and I want to be sure the one I am getting is able to do that. thanks
MSI 870A-G54
AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE
EVGA GeForce GTX460 1GB
GSKILL 4gb DDR3 RAM
Apevia 520w power supply
ASUS DVD burner
Samsung F3 1TB HDD
Centurion II 5 Case
Since this is my first one I wouldn't mind if someone looked it over to make sure its not garbage. I plan on running it normal for a while, and then getting some more fans and OC'ing. The question I have is mainly about the mobo, does that have any bearing on whether you can OC or not. On newegg the AMD black edition processors say they can be OC'ed, but I've been reading this thread and it looks like the mobo also has something to do with it and I want to be sure the one I am getting is able to do that. thanks
That mobo will be fine for overclocking. There's a few different things that determine the speed of a proc, which is mostly the BUS and the multiplier. The black edition processors mean that the multiplier is unlocked, making overclocking a lot easier. With other procs, you can only overclock the BUS (more or less).Advance_Alarm said:
However, as a guy with more or less the same proc in his gaming rig, you're buying it at the wrong time. AMD's bulldozer is just around the corner, and Intel's new sandybridge chips just demolish it. If you're looking to save as much money as possible, then stick with it, but you can get a lot more out of a system with just a couple hundred more.
Isopropyl alcohol.Trojita said:Got my Xigmatek Dark Knight delivered
How do you wipe off the thermal grease from the processor properly?
Advance_Alarm
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thanks for clearing that up. i dont play new games, im mostly interested in being able to run Counter-Strike:Source and Total War games (been playing CSS on 800x600 everything low at 10-25fps for about 3 years now). Would it be better to wait for those next gen chips to come out so that the current ones drop in price? I would be willing to wait if its only a few months. thanks againmkenyon said:
Yeah, all the P67 boards will offer more or less the same controls, and give you everything you'd really want. There are some that have auto-OC options, but that's more for the folks that don't want to get the most out of their system. The *best* for OC'ing are any of the RoG boards, but you pay a very substantial premium for that. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Maximus Formula and/or Gene soon. I asked an RoG rep about that very thing and he said "they were far more popular than the extreme series of RoG boards, and we've released them for all previous sockets, so you can make a good guess". There will be someone who will jump in here and yell at me for suggesting the RoG boards, but man, they are so f'n sweet.Dinokill said:
If you really won't be playing any new games, don't worry about it. The system you've got listed there will do you wonders for total war and CS:S. Sandybridge is already out, its the P67 motherboards and 2500K proc that you'd want to look at. Intel socket 1155.Advance_Alarm said:
I ordered a Vertex 2 from Newegg that came in earlier this week. They sent me one of the new ones that can't reach their advertised speed so I immediately opened a trouble ticket with OCZ. This was Monday morning.
They completely ignored my ticket for 48 hours. They changed the status on my ticket from "open" to "acknowledged" and then continued to ignore it for 12 more hours. Then I got an email asking what the formatted size of the drive was. I responded and the ticket has been ignored for over 24 hours again.
I called them up to inquire why it was taking 4 days with nearly 0 movement on my RMA status. The guy on the phone said "a lot of people open tickets. It's only been 24 hours since the last response so just chill."
They sold me a product with blatant lies on the spec page. They drag their feet on the RMA to send me the product I actually ordered. Then they talk to me like I'm the asshole because I call to ask why it has taken 4 days to ask me a single question. My MIR will be expired by the time I get the correct drive back. The only reason I went Vertex 2 is because I got the rest of my parts in and didn't want to wait for the V3, but at this rate it will be out by the time my RMA is done.
So yeah, fuck OCZ.
They completely ignored my ticket for 48 hours. They changed the status on my ticket from "open" to "acknowledged" and then continued to ignore it for 12 more hours. Then I got an email asking what the formatted size of the drive was. I responded and the ticket has been ignored for over 24 hours again.
I called them up to inquire why it was taking 4 days with nearly 0 movement on my RMA status. The guy on the phone said "a lot of people open tickets. It's only been 24 hours since the last response so just chill."
They sold me a product with blatant lies on the spec page. They drag their feet on the RMA to send me the product I actually ordered. Then they talk to me like I'm the asshole because I call to ask why it has taken 4 days to ask me a single question. My MIR will be expired by the time I get the correct drive back. The only reason I went Vertex 2 is because I got the rest of my parts in and didn't want to wait for the V3, but at this rate it will be out by the time my RMA is done.
So yeah, fuck OCZ.
DeadRockstar
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I say you dress up like a panda and visit the OCZ HQ.
So guys, sorry to bother you all, but I'll buy the parts tomorrow and I'd like the OK.
Here's the final build:
Intel Core i7-2600K
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0)
2x HD 6970
CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-950TX 950W ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Corsair Nova Series CSSD-V128GB2-BRKT 2.5" 128GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1 TB
HAF X
I'm afraid of some incompatibility. Is this PSU correct/enough for the build? What's the difference between TX and AX?
Here's the final build:
Intel Core i7-2600K
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0)
2x HD 6970
CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-950TX 950W ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Corsair Nova Series CSSD-V128GB2-BRKT 2.5" 128GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1 TB
HAF X
I'm afraid of some incompatibility. Is this PSU correct/enough for the build? What's the difference between TX and AX?
Hey guys, how good is this rig?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227335
I'm borderline retarded when it comes to PC hardware. Will that thing be able to play Skyrim or SWTOR, d'you think? Or Dolphin (wii/gc emulator), even?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227335
I'm borderline retarded when it comes to PC hardware. Will that thing be able to play Skyrim or SWTOR, d'you think? Or Dolphin (wii/gc emulator), even?
Really, even if its the 212+ cooler, it's worth every single penny from noise to heat. Most aftermarket coolers come with thermal paste, but if not then Arctic Silver 5 is the good stuff.
sk3tch said:
I use Arctic MX-2 but there's many similar products (like the popular Arctic Silver 5), a tube is like $10 and will last you for the rest of your life. Definitely buy an aftermarket cooler, something like Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is dirt cheap and miles ahead of the stock cooler.
Hm, I figured as much...mkenyon said:
Does anyone know of a good prebuilt PC? Something between 600-1000 that will be able to play 2011 games? All I've been doing is patrolling the highest rated rigs on newegg, and the one I linked seem pretty good for what limited knowledge I have. But evidently not.
The OP doesn't seem to have any good guides for prebuilt PC buying, and I'm not looking to build my own rig.
Mr Nightman
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Any reason why you wouldn't consider building your own? Building is very easy, and gives you a great feeling of accomplishment and respect. Its actually a really fun and interesting process, and will give you the absolute best valuefhtagn said:
MikeE21286
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luiztfc said:
That thing should be awesome....but what about a new-generation SATA III SSD?
I don't have the time nor patience nor technical know-how.Mr Nightman said:
I know, I know, self-building is fast and painless, and a monkey could do it. But I've had terrible luck with such things before; it's almost as if valuable electronics crumble to dust in my hands.
Mostly, money isn't a massive obstacle right now. I'd consider building my own rig if I was in a money crunch, but that isn't really the case presently.
Sufficeth to say, I'd prefer a solid, moderately more expensive prebuilt PC over something I need to piece together with my lobster claws.
Finally got my stuff in today, i have a question about AMD cards because i just got the asus 6950 with the extra coolers and i wanted to know some tips for amd since im new to it.
what programs should i download etc.
also is it easy to flash your bios to a 6970, and how do you save your bios
what programs should i download etc.
also is it easy to flash your bios to a 6970, and how do you save your bios
Schmattakopf
Member
That's what that thread seems to think, but I tried disabling all sound and it still happened.mkenyon said:
MisterNoisy
Member
ASilva said:
Super sharp!
Was about to ask if the USA NCIX outlet offered assembly but I found it myself. That's a great idea. I can't tell if NCIX does price matching in the states since they know my account is Canadian. If they do their selection seems to have improved a lot over their old CPU+Motherboard combos only layout. You could potentially price match everything with them, and get them to build it and ship it to you. The 1000$ build in the OP is still pretty good. Go with a cheaper PSU listed unless you're planning on going dual GPU down the road. You can also bump the GPU up to something higher as well. Several of those prices should be lower now than when that screenshot was taken though.
Their USA site
The product page for the 50$ assembly
Does microcenter do custom builds?
Their USA site
The product page for the 50$ assembly
Does microcenter do custom builds?
I found this on the microcenter site:
"Custom Builds
Get a shopping cart, load it up with all of the latest and greatest parts, roll the cart over to our service department and our computer professionals will build it for you."
So if you have an MC location near you or order from them online it will be just as easy as a pre-built machine but much better. If you want us to refine your parts list just post it.
It's sad that it's 2011 and we're still struggling to have 5 down/1 up connections that are functional for the modern user. It's also sad that things still haven't been completely settled in regards to the UBB up here yet as everyone loves to drag their heels. We have companies rolling out gigabit server overseas and google's trying it out in the states yet the major ISPs up here are so damn hard done by to provide 1/200th that service to households which usually support several internet users. Here's a great youtube video summing up what the real problem is for those who don't know.
"Custom Builds
Get a shopping cart, load it up with all of the latest and greatest parts, roll the cart over to our service department and our computer professionals will build it for you."
So if you have an MC location near you or order from them online it will be just as easy as a pre-built machine but much better. If you want us to refine your parts list just post it.
·feist· said:
It's sad that it's 2011 and we're still struggling to have 5 down/1 up connections that are functional for the modern user. It's also sad that things still haven't been completely settled in regards to the UBB up here yet as everyone loves to drag their heels. We have companies rolling out gigabit server overseas and google's trying it out in the states yet the major ISPs up here are so damn hard done by to provide 1/200th that service to households which usually support several internet users. Here's a great youtube video summing up what the real problem is for those who don't know.
momolicious
Member
ASilva said:
Would you mind telling me how loud your current setup is with that case and fans?
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