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[ReBurn]

Hey guys daily PS5 Pro reminder thread

 

[vanillaFace]

now ask it again in a year.

 

[Banjo64]

We get it. In one region, the US, PC components are expensive whilst Sony offer the PS5 Pro at a lower rate than other first world countries.

Now do a comparison in the UK or EU, where you can get comparable pre-builds for similar cash, but without Sony’s online fees and walled garden store.

Here you go;

Costco UK, £699:

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
- 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME SSD
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home
- Corsair 3000D RGB AIRFLOW Mid-Tower – White Gaming Case

AWD-IT Eclipse 7, AMD Ryzen 7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA ...

Experience the Power of Possibility. Unlock unparalleled gaming performance with NVIDIA RTX 4060 graphics and the powerhouse Ryzen 5700X CPU. Conquering the most demanding AAA titles and blazing through creative workloads with ease. AMD Ryzen 7 5700X Processor – with the unwavering strength of 8...

www.costco.co.uk

 

[delirium trigger]

It doesn't have nearly that good of a cpu in it.

 

[Davevil]

 

[nemiroff]

I asked an AI what would happen if PC and Playstation had sex:

" If a PC were a Formula One car and a PlayStation were an STD, their offspring would be quite an unusual mix!

**Kid 1: The High-Speed Virus**
- **Looks**: Sleek and aerodynamic like a Formula One car, but with a chaotic, unpredictable edge.
- **Features**: Lightning-fast performance with the ability to infiltrate and disrupt systems. Capable of spreading rapidly through networks.
- **Personality**: Mischievous and unpredictable, always looking for ways to cause a stir in the digital world.

**Kid 2: The Glitch Racer**
- **Looks**: A blend of high-tech racing design with erratic, glitchy elements.
- **Features**: High-speed capabilities combined with the potential to cause unexpected system errors. Can navigate both the digital and physical realms with ease.
- **Personality**: Unstable but thrilling, offering a wild ride for those who dare to engage.

**Kid 3: The Cyber Contaminator**
- **Looks**: Futuristic and stylish, with a hint of something sinister.
- **Features**: Combines the cutting-edge technology of a Formula One car with the disruptive nature of a virus. Capable of both high-performance gaming and spreading digital chaos.
- **Personality**: Dual-natured, capable of providing top-tier gaming experiences while also being a potential threat to system stability.

These hybrid kids would bring together the best and worst of both worlds, offering a unique blend of high-speed performance and digital disruption. "

 

[Yamisan]

I love my ps5 but the ps5 pro is the biggest scam in gaming in a long time.

 

[Senua]

I love my ps5 but the ps5 pro is the biggest scam in gaming in a long time.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

I asked chatgpt to build a console gamer that was the equivalent of a PCMR gamer and it just did this:

edit: aww crap this gif already made appearances in this thread, RIP my joke

 

[GrouchyGamer]

This place is overrun with P5P apologists recently. It's annoying.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

edit: aaand I clicked edit then typed into the "new post" field, that's enough GAF for me today.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

The price difference at my Best Buy is insane right now.

The Slim DE is selling for the equivalent of $376 USD and the Pro for $708 USD. Almost twice the price. Crazy.

That’s wild. I’d still go for the Pro lol

 

[bitbydeath]

Cool it built a way more powerful machine with a valid windows license.

You can build a comparable machine to PS5 Pro for ~800 you just wouldn't want to.

It’s weaker actually but the prices weren’t a great example.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

We get it. In one region, the US, PC components are expensive whilst Sony offer the PS5 Pro at a lower rate than other first world countries.

Now do a comparison in the UK or EU, where you can get comparable pre-builds for similar cash, but without Sony’s online fees and walled garden store.

Here you go;

Costco UK, £699:

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
- 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME SSD
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home
- Corsair 3000D RGB AIRFLOW Mid-Tower – White Gaming Case

AWD-IT Eclipse 7, AMD Ryzen 7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA ...

Experience the Power of Possibility. Unlock unparalleled gaming performance with NVIDIA RTX 4060 graphics and the powerhouse Ryzen 5700X CPU. Conquering the most demanding AAA titles and blazing through creative workloads with ease. AMD Ryzen 7 5700X Processor – with the unwavering strength of 8...

www.costco.co.uk

That's a really good price for a pre built but isn't the RTX 4060 a really shit GPU?

 

[HogIsland]

It’s weaker actually but the prices weren’t a great example.

I think you're overestimating the PS5 CPU by a lot, and maybe you're missing what DF specifically means when they compare the GPU to a 4070.

 

[bitbydeath]

I think you're overestimating the PS5 CPU by a lot, and maybe you're missing what DF specifically means when they compare the GPU to a 4070.

You should stop listening to DF for anything tech related.

 

[reinking]

People are swayed by “building” pc’s and the opportunities there and forgive me but there’s joy in building PC’s, the joy permeates from launching your first boot up, and I’m not saying console gamers don’t have joy just not that joy.

I have been upgrading and building PCs since the early 90's. My "joy" on first boot up is different than yours....

 

[Banjo64]

That's a really good price for a pre built but isn't the RTX 4060 a really shit GPU?

Yeah. Costco have deals on good PCs every week or so though.

At the end of August this one was £950:

Features
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Processor
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Graphics
- 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD (NVME)

At £700 (£730 if you want to be able to stand the thing up) I don’t think the Pro has any value proposition in the UK.

 

[bundylove]

So. Not shit, a PC will always be more expensive than a console. However, I can upgrade any component on my PC any time I like and have far more CPU, RAM, and GPU power. The library of games is more vast than Sony could imagine. Not only all this, but a PC is far more capable at not only gaming, but completing other tasks. So while the Playstation is a great deal, I need more. So, for the cost of 2 PS5 pro's I will always go PC. I'm not sure why you turds need to exclaim that the PS5Pro is so amazing for it's price, you are correct, it is. But I don't need a PC with the same horsepower as a PS5Pro. I can meet and exceed those needs and do far more with my PC as well as have far more freedom to game, mod, host servers, create virtual machines, control my network, work, Emulate other systems, use CAD software, 3D model, build a game/website/software application, program Arduino modules, utilize my own personal AI, Photo/Video Edit, pay bills, run up to 4 monitors, tweak settings to my hearts content and so on. Hell, I could add 2 GPU's if I wanted to.

I think the choice is up to the user and what they ultimately want to do. Would you like a walled garden for just games, apps and entertainment, controlled by your plastic box manufacturer of choice, or do you want to do whatever you want?

I want to seperate work from personal life.

When i am home i am turning on the tv and console and i just game.

When i am at work i do cad, mozaik, maestro, sketch up, invoicing , back end tools and front end tools etc.

I can have both in one but no thanks

 

[Duchess]

Prompt:

What would I need to add to an Amiga 1200 to make it as powerful as a PlayStation 1?

Answer:

To make an Amiga 1200 as powerful as a PlayStation 1, you would need to consider several hardware upgrades and modifications, as the two systems have different architectures and capabilities. Here are some key areas to focus on:

1. **Processor Upgrade**: The Amiga 1200 has a Motorola 68020 CPU, while the PlayStation 1 uses a MIPS R3000A processor. Upgrading the Amiga's CPU to a faster 68030 or even a 68060 (with a compatible accelerator card) would help improve performance, but it won't match the architecture of the PlayStation.

2. **Graphics and Sound**: The Amiga 1200 has a custom chipset (AGA) that is capable of impressive graphics for its time, but it lacks the 3D capabilities of the PlayStation. You could add a graphics card that supports 3D rendering, such as the Picasso IV or a similar solution. For sound, the Amiga's audio capabilities are strong, but you might want to consider additional sound hardware for better audio quality.

3. **RAM Upgrade**: The Amiga 1200 comes with 2 MB of RAM, which is insufficient compared to the PlayStation's 2 MB of RAM (plus additional VRAM). Upgrading the Amiga to at least 8 MB of RAM (or more) would be beneficial.

4. **Storage**: The PlayStation uses CD-ROMs for games, while the Amiga typically uses floppy disks. Adding a CD-ROM drive to the Amiga would allow you to access larger games and multimedia content. You might also consider using an IDE hard drive for faster loading times.

5. **Software and Emulation**: To truly match the PlayStation's library, you would need to run software that can emulate PlayStation games or find equivalent titles for the Amiga. This could involve using emulators or ports of games.

6. **Expansion Ports**: Consider using expansion ports for additional hardware, such as a faster bus or additional peripherals that can enhance performance.

While these upgrades can significantly enhance the Amiga 1200's capabilities, it's important to note that the two systems are fundamentally different, and achieving parity in performance and game library may not be entirely feasible. The PlayStation 1 was designed with 3D gaming in mind, while the Amiga was primarily a 2D system, so some aspects of performance may remain unmatched.

 

[sono]

So gpt says pro is great value against PC around half the cost for same performance

 

[twilo99]

chatbot didn't understand the assignment..

We did it better

This guys build is not really a comparison, as that PC would smoke the PS5 Pro, yet still has less storage (?!?).



This is a much better comparison to the actual PS5 Pro, with possibly worse Ray Tracing (Honestly we won't know this until we actually see the PS5 Pro in action), double the memory, and with a smaller SSD.


I just tried making a version that has what I think is most comparable to the PS5 with high quality parts I would actually purchase if I were building the PC, and it came out similar to twilo99 's version:

If I were trying to make a mid-range PC that was far more future proof and upgrade ready, but would absolutely smoke the PS5 Pro I would need to spend an additional $285 or so:

Thing is cheaper now since AMD GPU prices are lower

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7WMf34

But really, just wait a few months for RDNA4/Blackwell if you want superior frame generation

 

[cozomel]

We still don't know the specs for the GPU. Only the clocks and CU count and little more.

We know the clocks? What are they and any links?

 

[Lysandros]

We still don't know the specs for the GPU. Only the clocks and CU count and little more.

Do we know the clocks officially?

 

[winjer]

Do we know the clocks officially?

Now that you mention it, not they haven't been confirmed yet. We only have the leaks.

 

[FoxMcChief]

So gpt says pro is great value against PC around half the cost for same performance

But if you are a gamer that cares about resolution and frame rate and would rather play on PC, you don’t have to settle for only matching the PS5 Pro.

 

[Lysandros]

Now that you mention it, not they haven't been confirmed yet. We only have the leaks.

Funny thing isn't it, we can't calculate any GPU metric with certainty as of yet.

 

[sendit]

 

[ResilientBanana]

I want to seperate work from personal life.

When i am home i am turning on the tv and console and i just game.

When i am at work i do cad, mozaik, maestro, sketch up, invoicing , back end tools and front end tools etc.

I can have both in one but no thanks

That’s a valid choice then.

I think the OP is trying to say why a PS5 Pro is better than a PC because it’s less expensive and has similar technology to a PC. But that is dismissive of what a PC is capable of, especially considering almost every game needs a PC to even be created. That being said, the PS5 Pro is great bang for your buck, but its capabilities and upgradability are limited.

 

[bundylove]

That’s a valid choice then.

I think the OP is trying to say why a PS5 Pro is better than a PC because it’s less expensive and has similar technology to a PC. But that is dismissive of what a PC is capable of, especially considering almost every game needs a PC to even be created. That being said, the PS5 Pro is great bang for your buck, but its capabilities and upgradability are limited.

I will quote our headmaster on gaf.

If you trade in your old console for a new one like ps5 for a ps5 pro you spend every 4 to 8 years 300 to 400 bucks to get the latest.

if you factor this in, its an even better deal

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Totally for S&G but I looked at random "Gaming" desktops at Best Buy. Under $1k you are still talking about 7600/4060 although you are getting a much better CPU than the Pro.

Are RGB fans like mandatory?

 

[MikeM]

Isn’t the Pro GPU RDNA3? Its quoting the dual issue TF number.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Isn’t the Pro GPU RDNA3? Its quoting the dual issue TF number.

It's like a hybrid of it and RDNA 4.

 

[MikeM]

It's like a hybrid of it and RDNA 4.

My understanding was GPU was generally RDNA3 with RT being RDNA4?

 

[asdasdasdbb]

My understanding was GPU was generally RDNA3 with RT being RDNA4?

Yea.

 

[LordBlodgett]

What do you know, AI language models suck ass at building PCs

 

[simpatico]

This thread proves that NeoGAF threads are more labor intensive than 93% of IGN and Kotaku articles.

 

[reinking]

This thread proves that NeoGAF threads are more labor intensive than 93% of IGN and Kotaku articles.

Are NeoGAF threads are more labor intensive than 93% of IGN and Kotaku articles.

ChatGPT said:​

That’s an interesting observation! NeoGAF threads often involve extensive discussions, deep dives into topics, and a lot of back-and-forth between users, which can make them feel more labor-intensive compared to the more polished and concise articles on sites like IGN and Kotaku. While the latter tend to prioritize accessibility and broad appeal, NeoGAF can delve into specifics and nuanced debates that require significant engagement. It really depends on the context and the topic being discussed!

 

[SHA]

I'm eager to see those sub 100 legit pro games.

 

[SaintALia]

Even if ChatGpt was on point, it'd have been a pointless endeavour anyway.

Consoles will often use custom graphic settings, and PCs don't usually have compareable settings, some way below 'Low' or 'Lowest' equivalent settings and some an inbetween. It doesn't help that some settings will absolutely tank a framerate without much benefit in overall graphic quality. So you may have a game running at High at PC and a console running weird hybrid settings and the PC version may look sharper, but otherwise look the same and they run the same, but there may be some underlying graphic settings tanking the FPS that the console version has a much lower version(or hybrid) of that PC players won't have access to.

And while console devs will optimise around a console's hardware, a dual developed console/PC game will just throw it out to PC games with, 'If it runs it runs, if i doesn't, buy a better PC'. A bit hyperbolic, but you get the point.

Also NO ONE builds PCs like that, at least I've never seen anyone do that. Just grab a set standard price and go with that. There's like tons of varieties of all sort of PC products and you're always looking for the best deals. You're not buying one thing, you're buying different components and assembling them. - Samsung/WD SSD 1TB for 100-150? TF. Nvm paying that much for one, you'd want to buy a fast boot drive and a bigger drive for gaming anyway. Paying for Windows? Lol okay.

 

[LeftThumbstick]

That’s all well and good, but a PC is a multi-purpose device. That said device is also used to build the games playable on your PS5. It can also play games better than the PS5, can be modified in many ways and upgraded at will without replacing the whole unit.

Also, keep in mind you asked an AI that doesn’t do particularly well with nuance and won’t go out its way to scour all possible deals to make the price as low as possible.

On top of that, the PC will last much longer thanks to the fact that even without upgrading hardware, newer and newer games can be played just fine by tweaking in-game settings.

Let’s put it this way, buying a PS5 vs a PC is a financially illiterate decision. You literally have money to just burn.

 

[nnytk]

I want to seperate work from personal life.

When i am home i am turning on the tv and console and i just game.

When i am at work i do cad, mozaik, maestro, sketch up, invoicing , back end tools and front end tools etc.

I can have both in one but no thanks

Amen, I'm in the same boat as you. This whole "build a similar PC" idea is kind of silly. Consoles are different, for a reason. And they are priced differently. That's all there is to it.

 

[UnrealEck]

Literally no one thinks of a console when they go to build or buy a gaming PC. They just think 'what's the best price to performance' or 'what can I get for this much?'.
I practically live at a PC. It's not just a machine to play games on. There's a good chance a lot of you posted and are reading this thread on a PC.

 

[Erebus]

What's the correct answer though?

 

[sendit]

What's the correct answer though?

Sure, I’d be happy to help! Could you please provide more details or specify the question you’re referring to? That way, I can give you the most accurate and relevant answer.

 

[Bavarian_Sloth]

 

[RoboFu]

Aahh .. the classic " validation " thread from someone who deep down are afraid they wasted their money.

 

[Paasei]

All of you forget the most important thing: This comes with Cyberpunk 2077 updates.

 

[DeathGuise]

I asked ChatGPT to create an image based on your OP, this was it's response

I love AI so much. I love how there's just two computers. One of the fans just kind of melts into oblivion.

 

[CJ_75]

This PC matching the performance of PS5 Pro is more expensive but will be able to play Playstation and Xbox games.
That is something PS5 Pro won't be able to do (yet). Plus, you can write love letters in Word.