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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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Meus,
I couldn't pick out a case for you, unsure as to what you were looking for if it was looks, cooling, silence, etc.
The 560TI is good, you still save quite a bit of money compared to the 570.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251205 this 6950 might be a reference card; I can't tell aside from the black PCB with the AMD logo on it and the red fan/cooler located near the back. If it is, then it can be flashed to a 6970, thus getting more bang for your buck. But a safe route is just getting something like the 560. I'm not particularly sure about the other vendors for the GPU though.
There isn't that much of a difference between ram, so I picked out the cheaper GSkill ones over the Corsair Vengeance. The two Samsung HDDs are faster, reliable and you still get the same amount of HDD space.
The Corsair series PSUs are right up there with the Seasonic ones. You'll have enough power and cables to support everything you throw at it until you start adding a second GPU for whatever reason. If you wanted a third, you'd need to buy a different motherboard. As most of us have said, it's better to get one graphics card.
So yeah, you're just missing a new monitor if you want one, a case and a dvd drive.
edit - I couldn't find a decent heatsink/cooler for your processor, the site didn't have the Coolermaster 212+
I couldn't pick out a case for you, unsure as to what you were looking for if it was looks, cooling, silence, etc.
The 560TI is good, you still save quite a bit of money compared to the 570.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251205 this 6950 might be a reference card; I can't tell aside from the black PCB with the AMD logo on it and the red fan/cooler located near the back. If it is, then it can be flashed to a 6970, thus getting more bang for your buck. But a safe route is just getting something like the 560. I'm not particularly sure about the other vendors for the GPU though.
There isn't that much of a difference between ram, so I picked out the cheaper GSkill ones over the Corsair Vengeance. The two Samsung HDDs are faster, reliable and you still get the same amount of HDD space.
The Corsair series PSUs are right up there with the Seasonic ones. You'll have enough power and cables to support everything you throw at it until you start adding a second GPU for whatever reason. If you wanted a third, you'd need to buy a different motherboard. As most of us have said, it's better to get one graphics card.
So yeah, you're just missing a new monitor if you want one, a case and a dvd drive.
edit - I couldn't find a decent heatsink/cooler for your processor, the site didn't have the Coolermaster 212+
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
So GAF, i have ordered this laptop -
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C660-10D/1095328
Completely for general PC use and not gaming, but 1 cant help but wonder, what gaming options would this give me ? Im not talking modern stuff, but things like Torchlight. Just interested is all, i dont have any expectations gaming wise from it
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C660-10D/1095328
Completely for general PC use and not gaming, but 1 cant help but wonder, what gaming options would this give me ? Im not talking modern stuff, but things like Torchlight. Just interested is all, i dont have any expectations gaming wise from it
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Gawaian said:
I've had a 5870 1GB since it launched and it's a great card. I generally play at 1920x1200 and it performance is great in almost every game with max AF and 2x AA (or sometimes even 4x AA).
Ogs said:So GAF, i have ordered this laptop -
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C660-10D/1095328
Completely for general PC use and not gaming, but 1 cant help but wonder, what gaming options would this give me ? Im not talking modern stuff, but things like Torchlight. Just interested is all, i dont have any expectations gaming wise from it
You should be able to play Torchlight and some other games at low settings. (Don't expect much though)
Popcap and GoG will be your best friends.Ogs said:So GAF, i have ordered this laptop -
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C660-10D/1095328
Completely for general PC use and not gaming, but 1 cant help but wonder, what gaming options would this give me ? Im not talking modern stuff, but things like Torchlight. Just interested is all, i dont have any expectations gaming wise from it
Deal of the century.Gawaian said:
I have a pc I made in 2008 but the gpu seems to be getting old and overheats from time to time (ATI 4850 512MB) I am going to build a new pc next year, would it make sense to buy one now or should I wait for next year?
I don't mind playing games at medium settings @ 1680x1050, this is what I want to play :
MW3 (should be fine)
BF3 (not sure, tech demo usd gt580)
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (not sure)
Dead Island (not sure)
Rage (not sure)
I would much prefer waiting until next year, so I can get the latest gear but if the 4850 is not going to run these games at least on medium I may need to look at a new card in the meantime, what do you guys think?
I don't mind playing games at medium settings @ 1680x1050, this is what I want to play :
MW3 (should be fine)
BF3 (not sure, tech demo usd gt580)
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (not sure)
Dead Island (not sure)
Rage (not sure)
I would much prefer waiting until next year, so I can get the latest gear but if the 4850 is not going to run these games at least on medium I may need to look at a new card in the meantime, what do you guys think?
Hey guys,
Alright, I'm really getting desperate here...
Ever since I got my new system, I keep getting random BSODs.
The error given is always the same : INTERRUPT_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Now, I did overclock my i5 2500k, but I followed a guide online and I also didn't do anything crazy. I just did the usual 4.5 ghz overclock with a voltage of around 1.34 if I remember correctly.
What do you think might be causing this problem ?
Do you have any tools that I can use to help me figure out what's wrong ?
Thanks, I really appreciate it...
Alright, I'm really getting desperate here...
Ever since I got my new system, I keep getting random BSODs.
The error given is always the same : INTERRUPT_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Now, I did overclock my i5 2500k, but I followed a guide online and I also didn't do anything crazy. I just did the usual 4.5 ghz overclock with a voltage of around 1.34 if I remember correctly.
What do you think might be causing this problem ?
Do you have any tools that I can use to help me figure out what's wrong ?
Thanks, I really appreciate it...
ace22b said:
I'll try with the CPU not overclocked, but the i5 2500k were actually meant to be overclocked.
Also, the BSOD happens most often when doing a cold boot and then the system is relatively stable.
Let's say that the problem is the overclock, does that mean the problem is with the CPU ? Isn't that model meant to be overclocked ?
Can't it be my memory, SSD or HDD ?
CaLe said:Hey guys,
Alright, I'm really getting desperate here...
Ever since I got my new system, I keep getting random BSODs.
The error given is always the same : INTERRUPT_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Now, I did overclock my i5 2500k, but I followed a guide online and I also didn't do anything crazy. I just did the usual 4.5 ghz overclock with a voltage of around 1.34 if I remember correctly.
What do you think might be causing this problem ?
Do you have any tools that I can use to help me figure out what's wrong ?
Thanks, I really appreciate it...
Check out blue screen viewer, see if you can narrow it down to a driver. Google reveals that it happens infrequently and usually related to drivers, AHCI specifically.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/6327a06a-ada1-4413-9e96-a0f62d373150/
I absolutely love you guys, thanks for all the suggestions.
Ithorien and Kyaw, you guys hit the jackpot. It seems that indeed that was the problem. I updated the driver and now I'm crossing my fingers that I won't get any BSOD anymore.
Thanks so much.
I actually ran Prime95 for about 30-45 min. Is that enough..? Should I have ran it for a longer period of time?
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
Version: 04/06/2011
I actually didn't try memtest, I'll still try it even though it seems the problem was with the Marvell driver.
I do have another system, but its a very old one, I doubt it will do me any good :/
But I agree, maybe my voltage aren't correct, but I did follow a guide on HardForum. I'll try and run Prime95 for a longer period of time.
Hopefully the problem was the Marvell driver though !
ithorien said:
Kyaw said:
Ithorien and Kyaw, you guys hit the jackpot. It seems that indeed that was the problem. I updated the driver and now I'm crossing my fingers that I won't get any BSOD anymore.
Thanks so much.
knitoe said:
I actually ran Prime95 for about 30-45 min. Is that enough..? Should I have ran it for a longer period of time?
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
Version: 04/06/2011
I actually didn't try memtest, I'll still try it even though it seems the problem was with the Marvell driver.
mkenyon said:
I do have another system, but its a very old one, I doubt it will do me any good :/
But I agree, maybe my voltage aren't correct, but I did follow a guide on HardForum. I'll try and run Prime95 for a longer period of time.
Hopefully the problem was the Marvell driver though !
Mr Nightman
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Well just got my logitech illuminated keyboard, and gotta say I am impressed with it. Was really shocked at how hefty it felt, despite being really thin, thanks for the input exodus,
On the MB, you have 8 Sata ports. From bottom up, 4x Intel Sata 3G/s (light blue), 2x Intel Sata 6GB/s (white) and 2x Marvell 6 GB/s (dark blue). I recommend you stick to Intel ports because the Marvell controller isn't very good. Thus, if you don't need those ports, you can disable the controller in the bios.CaLe said:What exactly is the Marvell port ? And what is it used for ? Raid ?
Sorry for the noobish questions
Futurevoid
Member
Gaf..thoughts on this build? I'm planning on ordering next week. Any advice? Changes?
Fractal Designs Define XL
Intel 2500k Quad Core 3.3ghz Sandy Bridge CPU
COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan
ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
8GB Corsair Vengeance 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory
Palit GTX 560ti 2GB Video Card
Western Digital Caviar 1TB, 7200RPM 64MB Cache HDD
Corsair Force Series 90GB SSD with Trim Support
SONY Black 12X BD-R Burner
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W Power Supply
Total: $1540
Fractal Designs Define XL
Intel 2500k Quad Core 3.3ghz Sandy Bridge CPU
COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan
ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
8GB Corsair Vengeance 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory
Palit GTX 560ti 2GB Video Card
Western Digital Caviar 1TB, 7200RPM 64MB Cache HDD
Corsair Force Series 90GB SSD with Trim Support
SONY Black 12X BD-R Burner
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W Power Supply
Total: $1540
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
MRORANGE said:
I'd probably go with getting a gtx460 or a 6850 honestly.
What kind of budget are you looking to spend on a gpu?
The Bookerman
Member
Well my Pc told me I had to update my Win 7 to Service Pack 1(x64).... problem seems there seems to be a noticeable hit on my pc's performance.
Is this normal?
It takes longer to load anything.
Is this normal?
It takes longer to load anything.
I saw the updated list, but I'd get a 550W (XFX Core) or the 750W XFX (Same as the Corsair modular and usually cheaper) if you want to run 2 cards down the line).Meus Renaissance said:
My current Dell E207WFP is several years old but I love it. It goes to 1680x1050. Do higher res monitors provide a noticeably better visual experience? I can sell my current machine for around £350-£400 so it'll go towards directly funding this project. I can't wait to start building it. Will probably be able to get it around October
It says in the name and you can also go to ASUS and type the models in and hit the compare button.SRG01 said:
HDMI/Optical out
Picking up a GPU would be fine now since we aren't expecting anything for a while. 460/560/6950/570 based on price. 460 and 6950 better values.MRORANGE said:
Looks like looks are a big part of your build?Futurevoid said:
I don't think the V6 coolers better than the CM 212+ if you want to save something there.
G.Skill Sniper RAM will have a better shot at clearing that heatsink and look nicer imo.
Sabertooth I'm guessing is for looks too, you can save a bit on the mobo with a PRO or the ASRock in the OP. If you still want black the GigaByte motherboards have cheaper black PCB's too. (I've seen the Sabertooth in person though, looks amazing)
I'd get a 570 with all you are spending personally.
Intel 510 SSD. Problems happening with Sandforce right now. An Intel 320 120GB will do well, although it is not SLC.
Good parts, just looking to save you a bit, nothing wrong with the build!
The Bookerman
Member
No help at all? hmmm...
Mr Nightman said:Well just got my logitech illuminated keyboard, and gotta say I am impressed with it. Was really shocked at how hefty it felt, despite being really thin, thanks for the input exodus,
I got one too for my new build but the wife saw it and took it for herself.
It has no problems with w+shift+space and many other combinations either so Exodus was right about that too.
Gaf, can you tell me what you think about these specs for my first gaming pc
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium [64-bit]
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-970 six-core [3.2GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
9GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 1TB
1GB DDR5 Radeon HD 6850 [2 DVI, 2 mini-DP, HDMI. VGA adapter]
460W Power supply
Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
Wireless-N LAN card (1x1)
15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio
Sorry for the extra details, thinking about buying this HP set, but I'm a complete noob at pc gaming/set ups, does this sound like a machine capable of running Battlefield 3 well/decently? Thanks for any help.
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium [64-bit]
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-970 six-core [3.2GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
9GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 1TB
1GB DDR5 Radeon HD 6850 [2 DVI, 2 mini-DP, HDMI. VGA adapter]
460W Power supply
Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
Wireless-N LAN card (1x1)
15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio
Sorry for the extra details, thinking about buying this HP set, but I'm a complete noob at pc gaming/set ups, does this sound like a machine capable of running Battlefield 3 well/decently? Thanks for any help.
The i5 2500k is a much better deal than the i7-970. Sure it isn't as powerful, but it will still be plenty for BF3. And with the money you save you can upgrade to a better GPU (6970/570/580).LEGGZZZZ said:Gaf, can you tell me what you think about these specs for my first gaming pc
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-970 six-core [3.2GHz, 1.5MB L2 + 12MB shared L3 cache]
9GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 1TB
1GB DDR5 Radeon HD 6850 [2 DVI, 2 mini-DP, HDMI. VGA adapter]
Sorry for the extra details, thinking about buying this HP set, but I'm a complete noob at pc gaming/set ups, does this sound like a machine capable of running Battlefield 3 well/decently? Thanks for any help.
That's just me talking though. I'm sure others will come along and explain in more detail what can be done to make you a better computer.
Wolf Akela
Member
Ditch that i7-970 and get the i7-2600k instead. You'll do yourself a favor by saving nearly $300 for better performance/future-proofing.
9GB is overkill and is such a weird number. 4GB is gonna be fine. 6GB-8GB if you feel like you got extra money to burn but it'll barely help performance.
9GB is overkill and is such a weird number. 4GB is gonna be fine. 6GB-8GB if you feel like you got extra money to burn but it'll barely help performance.
Wolf Akela said:
How do you think that build would do though, even on battlefield bad company 2 for instance? Would you suggest buying a slighty cheaper pc, and buying the i7-2600k sperately myself and installing? I have no idea how this stuff works, trying to do some research.
Tweaked my setup to the following:
Intel i5 2500k
Asus P8P67 Pro
Coolermaster Hyper 212+
2x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 CL9
MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II
Intel 320 Series 160GB
Samsung 1TB F3 7200RPM
Seasonic X Series 660W
Corsair 650D
Windows 7 Home Premium
Question on OS. For general home usage and gaming, Win 7 Home Premium will do right?
Any other feedback on this build?
Intel i5 2500k
Asus P8P67 Pro
Coolermaster Hyper 212+
2x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 CL9
MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II
Intel 320 Series 160GB
Samsung 1TB F3 7200RPM
Seasonic X Series 660W
Corsair 650D
Windows 7 Home Premium
Question on OS. For general home usage and gaming, Win 7 Home Premium will do right?
Any other feedback on this build?
Futurevoid
Member
Just what I was looking for. Thanks!Hazaro said:
I changed out the cooler as recommended. Same for the RAM. Also changed over to the Asrock Exteme 4 as it was cheaper. I wasn't going to originally because I do so love the look of the Sabretooth, but frankly the extra money saved allowed me to add the Intel 510 120GB SSD. It all equaled out to the same price.
I may muster an extra bit of cash for a 570 but I'll have to check the bank (i.e. wife).
black_vegeta
Member
Looks solid imo.ElyrionX said:
Looks like some others have the same problem. System restore to before the SP1 update. lmk if you find anything out.The Bookerman said:
Depends on your usage imo.ElyrionX said:
The 320 120GB I have no is pretty darn fast already, don't know how noticeable the extra speed will be in actual usage.
EricHasNoPull
Banned
GAF Please help me decide, I recently upgraded my GPU in my PC, my old Video card is a 9600GT, and there's a guy who's willing to buy it off me for $60 today! last night I decided to try to use the card as a Physx card, I successful installed it; Windows 7 and my motherboard seems to not mind the two Nvidia cards I got runnin simultaneously, I didn't notice any performance difference on Portal 2 and Just Cause 2 I played...I don't have any games installed at the moment that support Physx.
My question is, what should I do? should I keep it, is it really a good thing to have a dedicated Physx GPU? My Main and current GPU is a GTX 560 Ti by the way, it's a decent card and by itself it's more than capable of running games alright.
So what's a better option? $60 for my old 9600 GT? (probably the best price I will get for it.)
Or leave it in my PC and wait for Batman Arkham city etc. or Battlefield 3 to utilize it?
Is there a huge performance difference (boost) with a dedicated Physx GPU?
My question is, what should I do? should I keep it, is it really a good thing to have a dedicated Physx GPU? My Main and current GPU is a GTX 560 Ti by the way, it's a decent card and by itself it's more than capable of running games alright.
So what's a better option? $60 for my old 9600 GT? (probably the best price I will get for it.)
Or leave it in my PC and wait for Batman Arkham city etc. or Battlefield 3 to utilize it?
Is there a huge performance difference (boost) with a dedicated Physx GPU?
EricHasNoPull said:
I'd probably sell it since the price is pretty good. A 9600GT is pretty much as low as you'd ever want to go for a PhysX-dedicated card, and even then your 560 Ti can probably handle most games today by itself. Maybe if your main GPU was weaker it would be worth it, but in your case I'd sell it.
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