You'll be able to do it excellently.
Is there a good resource for someone just getting into it? I'd really just like to play Persona 4 a bit prettier. Possible FES as well.
You'll be able to do it excellently.
Can someone help sway me to get an i7 over an i5? I have a 3570K in my wish list but I've been reading the 3770K is the way to go for any kind of editing. If I can see any kind of boost in game performance, then I can justify spending the extra $100 a little easier. In my case it would mainly be using Photoshop and Sony Vegas, anything to cut down render times would be great for me.
No one?
No one?
Can someone help sway me to get an i7 over an i5? I have a 3570K in my wish list but I've been reading the 3770K is the way to go for any kind of editing. If I can see any kind of boost in game performance, then I can justify spending the extra $100 a little easier. In my case it would mainly be using Photoshop and Sony Vegas, anything to cut down render times would be great for me.
So I'm assuming a fan controller is the best option? Can you guys recommend any?
Still rocking an 8800GTS 512 and looking to find the best GPU upgrade I can get in the $180-$240 range. I'll probably build a whole new computer within the next year, but playing Diablo 3 now and I'd like to run at higher settings. I'm sure my CPU (e8400) is a bottle neck too, but I can live with it for now.
Tower: Bitfenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Gamer Case, Black
CPU: Intel Core™ i5-3570K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache
Motherboard: AsRock H77Pro 4 M w/ DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, CrossFireX / SLI
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 4GB)
HDD: WD 1TB Caviar Black 7200rpm SATA III w/ 64MB Cache
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, Black, OEM
Video Card: eVGA GeForce GTX 570 SuperClocked 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI
Sound: Asus Xonar DG 5.1 Low Profile PCI Sound Card w/ Headphone AMP
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
Power: Antec Basiq VP-450 450W Power Supply
Alright guys, I am going to try to build my first ever PC (having absolutely no prior knowledge of PC building), so I followed the guide in the OP fairly closely. This is my end result:
The total cost, including the OS, is around $1050 CAD. Is there anything I should change, or am I good to go? I'm a little hesitant about the sound card. To be honest, I don't quite understand what it even does, so I'm not sure if I even need it.
Alright guys, I am going to try to build my first ever PC (having absolutely no prior knowledge of PC building), so I followed the guide in the OP fairly closely. This is my end result:
The total cost, including the OS, is around $1050 CAD. Is there anything I should change, or am I good to go? I'm a little hesitant about the sound card. To be honest, I don't quite understand what it even does, so I'm not sure if I even need it.
You won't see any benefit in games over the 3570k, but the 3770k is going to be quite a bit better for multimedia work. If you're doing photo and video editing and can afford it, go with the 3770k.
Remove the soundcard, unless you are a huge audiophile.
If you can get an SSD instead of that HDD, and get a 550 Antec Basiq instead of the 450 just incase you need that extra power.
I got the same Porc and mobo, its very good.
Only thing I'd change would be the 570, for say a 7850 or 7870 (7850 would be my recommendation) but if you really want to stay nVidia wait to see what price the 660 Ti launches at next week or so.
No need for a sound card.
Get a Z77 mobo too, it'll give you the option to overclock.
Better PSU too, try and go for a good 550-600w one.
Thanks. Would the i7 possibly have an edge for games that come out 2-3 years from now?
Thanks. Would the i7 possibly have an edge for games that come out 2-3 years from now?
You could get a 7850 at the top end of your budget, but your CPU is as you know a problem.
Looked into overclocking it?
So I'm assuming a fan controller is the best option? Can you guys recommend any?
Never tried overclocking it. I wouldn't want to buy any special hardware cooler to do it. I believe the default speed is 3 GHZ. I've read before that it wasn't difficult to overclock but I'm clumsy and will probably ruin my system if I did it. If it's really simple I'd do it, but otherwise I'm scurred. I'll look into that 7850. Thanks for the help man
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I'm a little confused at the price differences on these two. One has an extra fan, but I can't tell of anything else that warrants the price difference. Is it because it's easier to overclock? If I'm not going to overclock my GPU should I just go with the cheaper model? Driver issues mentioned in reviews have me a little nervous.
XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256
For $270
Versus
XFX FX-785A-CNFC Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
For $230
Edit #3 ---
I could wait for either of those from Newegg or I could go to Best Buy now and pick this one up:
Asus - AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
For $249
Is there a clear cut answer? I'm not opposed to waiting a few days if the Asus is really a disappointment compared to the other 2, but it'd be pretty awesome to go upgrade my vcard today.
Never tried overclocking it. I wouldn't want to buy any special hardware cooler to do it. I believe the default speed is 3 GHZ. I've read before that it wasn't difficult to overclock but I'm clumsy and will probably ruin my system if I did it. If it's really simple I'd do it, but otherwise I'm scurred. I'll look into that 7850. Thanks for the help man
-edit-
I'm a little confused at the price differences on these two. One has an extra fan, but I can't tell of anything else that warrants the price difference. Is it because it's easier to overclock? If I'm not going to overclock my GPU should I just go with the cheaper model? Driver issues mentioned in reviews have me a little nervous.
XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256
For $270
Versus
XFX FX-785A-CNFC Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
For $230
Edit #3 ---
I could wait for either of those from Newegg or I could go to Best Buy now and pick this one up:
Asus - AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
For $249
Is there a clear cut answer? I'm not opposed to waiting a few days if the Asus is really a disappointment compared to the other 2, but it'd be pretty awesome to go upgrade my vcard today.
Any news on the gtx 660ti price? I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to be able to afford it come next week.
To quote the supply manager at Overclockers in the UK
"...it's a $300 + taxes product.
It trades blows with 7950 and will be priced as such."
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22465340&postcount=5
How often does Newegg restock 690GTXs?
EVGA model is in stock on Amazon.
I kind of need to use the preferred account.
(Really, f you newegg... going to be a perpetual debt forever)
I hardily echo these recommendations. Two awesome fan controllers there.If you have a lot of fans you and just want a lot of controls go with the scythe kaze q12
~20-30
If you want an RPM/Temp LCD Monitor & do not have a lot of fans, or do not mind running a few to the same channel with the use of splitters go with the Lamptron FC5V2
~45-60
It seems scary, but computers are a lot more resilient than people imagine. You just need to get over that initial hump of "I'm going to break something", and it's a piece of cake. As far as overclocking it once the cooler is installed, it can seem overwhelming just because of the amount of information. If you have a guide handy that you're reading as you are going through the overclocking process, everything quickly makes a lot of sense. It's a great way to get a ton of extra performance for very little cost.Never tried overclocking it. I wouldn't want to buy any special hardware cooler to do it. I believe the default speed is 3 GHZ. I've read before that it wasn't difficult to overclock but I'm clumsy and will probably ruin my system if I did it. If it's really simple I'd do it, but otherwise I'm scurred. I'll look into that 7850. Thanks for the help man
-edit-
I'm a little confused at the price differences on these two. One has an extra fan, but I can't tell of anything else that warrants the price difference. Is it because it's easier to overclock? If I'm not going to overclock my GPU should I just go with the cheaper model? Driver issues mentioned in reviews have me a little nervous.
XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256
For $270
Versus
XFX FX-785A-CNFC Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
For $230
Edit #3 ---
I could wait for either of those from Newegg or I could go to Best Buy now and pick this one up:
Asus - AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
For $249
Is there a clear cut answer? I'm not opposed to waiting a few days if the Asus is really a disappointment compared to the other 2, but it'd be pretty awesome to go upgrade my vcard today.
Depends, really.
How often does Newegg restock 690GTXs?
How universal are these? Checking my Biostar MB product page, it says it doesn't support that kind. I mean if it's going to work then great. Also, I have GSKILL 1333 memory. How much better or faster will 1600 or more be for gaming and general use? Reading the feedback, they seem to OC quite easy. And last but not least, I have 2x4gb at in dual link. Would 2 of these also work the same?
Mobo mainly, not a great case either and the PSU is small and won't last long. Might want to think about saving for something that would be more upgradeable down the line.
Why not just do an SLI setup instead? Say, two GTX 680's?
To quote the supply manager at Overclockers in the UK
"...it's a $300 + taxes product.
It trades blows with 7950 and will be priced as such."
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22465340&postcount=5
Does AMD just have a bad rap right now?
Are you generally locked into a cpu/gpu family with a mobo choice?
Of course this doesn't seem like it should affect GPUs but AMD and ATI seem to be inextricably linked now that they're the same company (I haven't seen many AMD/Nvidia builds, it's mostly either AMD/ATI or Intel/Nvidia). I'm mainly a Linux user (essentially only boot into Windows when I need to use Visual Studio), and ATI's linux graphics drivers have a terrible reputation while Nvidia's are pretty good. It seems like that mobo I linked to wouldn't work if I later decided to go Intel/Nvidia.
Space issue on this mobo. SLI doesn't leave the cards too much room to breath. Summer time is not helping. With two Accelero Plus my two 580s are hitting nearly 100c in GW2. These coolers work ridiculously well on a single card setup, but together... yeah, I'm just not comfortable with it. I figured I should try to sell em now before they depreciate any more.
I don't plan to OC 690.
I always thought it was the other way around, I'm sure mkenyon will know.
Might as well get a 670 FTW.
IIRC, in terms of performance the Nvidia linux driver is almost as good as the Windows counterpart while AMD drivers are nowhere near that level.
Quite a lot of complaints come from linux communites because nvidia doesn't open source their drivers. Their binaries don't survive kernel updates, so if you're relying on nvidia's binary driver you can't update your kernel until nvidia bother to update. There are some reverse-engineered drivers which are "good" for linux, but at the cost of being flexible/open enough to not break every update you lose a lot of performance.
Basically nvidia are better but they don't do it the "linux way" which causes some headaches while AMD sucks. At least that's how I remember it, could be wrong.
I build a new PC but my EVGA Geforce 670 gtx FTW kept crashing to desktop. Its a common problem with the 670. At $100 cheaper the 670 is a great deal but am afraid of buying another. Its it safe to buy the geforce 680 or will that one crashed to desktop every 5 minutes like the 670?
I always thought it was the other way around, I'm sure mkenyon will know.
@CambriaRising i RMA the card back to Newegg for a refund. Am considering the 680 because i think the 670 should not come with the Reference card design. Am glad yours works. Sometimes it's the luck of the draw.