I think those processors are pretty evenly matched, the i7 is a good pick if the bundles are at similar price points
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I think those processors are pretty evenly matched, the i7 is a good pick if the bundles are at similar price points
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Have you guys ever opened an external hdd? I have a western digital studio 1tb drive. It's about 5 years old.. I think it was actually one of the first, if not the first 1terabyte drives released. I think I want to scavenge the drive to use for backups in my new build. Yeah, I know it's probably on the verge of death itself, but it wouldn't cost me anything.
Yes I've cracked open external hd enclosures before and put it in a system.. its just a normal hard drive in there
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Sweet.
Reading about Planetside2 is like reading about virtual reality.
Reading about Planetside2 is like reading about virtual reality.
IonicSnake
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This might be a stupid question but I'll ask anyway. I have set up so I see my desktop on both my tv and my monitor, so it's the same image, not extended or higher res. My question was, does duplicating the desktop on two monitors require extra work from the PC?
I would like to know as well. Logic tells me that replicating the same image would require twice the work but for some reason I feel like its possible that it doesn't.
You can output the same image many times without any visible impact on performance.
It is just sending the one framebuffer to two output encoders.
IonicSnake
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hmm I've never ran FurMark before on the 670s , so I just did
1st thing I discovered : FurMark + P95 = PSU shutdown
so HX650 ain't enough for 670SLI @ 1.21v + 4.8 GHz 2600K @1.4v when running a dual torture test
never had that during gaming obviously, then again Furmark = double the Heaven Benchmark amount of heat in Watt according to the Aquaero
anyway here is a screenshot from just Furmark [1024 something windowed, PostFX + Extreme Burn-In enabled, 8x MSAA] (already way hotter than any game I've played before)
first; yeah there's a 12c difference between my GPUs ... normal gaming this is around 6c to 8c --> FurMark + higher stress on 1st GPU I guess ? Haven't seen the GPU power % exceed 90% before either
second; usually GPU-only blocks are more efficient than fullcover ones, so your water temps are indeed higher than mine because your GPUs are as hot or hotter than mine ...
still I feel your 42c water is a bit high to get such GPU & CPU temps ... I think it is somewhat lower or my GPU 1 block isn't attached properly
(i.e. with 42c water my GPU1 would be 67c , GPU2 55c...) slightly above 35c seems more likely IMHOwhat sensor is it? what temperature is the water on idle/during gaming ? are your cards overvolted as well?
FYI I'm using the Aquacomputer inline sensors; 1 before and 1 after the blocks, plus 4 ambient ones. Radiator is 9*140, push only. Normal figures during BF3 are ~28c water (24 ambient) , up to 275W Power, both sets of radiator fans running at ~600 RPM, GPU 1 45c max GPU 2 38c max
also the bottom clamps on your RAM sticks #1 & #3 don't seem to be completely pressed down
but it looks damn good ! congrats with the setup
no 24h leak test before use btw?
Fongul
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I'm looking to start from scratch with building a system as I am currently running a P4 with a GeForce 6800 (how about them apples), but was on the fence to replace my current monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW). I'm thinking even if the monitor supports 1920X1080 that I would be better served by purchasing a new monitor.
Anyone have ideas for this as a replacement?
ASUS VS278Q-P Black 27" 1ms
Anyone have ideas for this as a replacement?
ASUS VS278Q-P Black 27" 1ms
Garou
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Up and running again! No more work on this thing...... at least till this weekend
Sorry for the not-DLSR photos, can't find my nikon charger.
That is the most beautiful cable-work I've ever seen!
CMOS reset ?
Xdrive05
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Flip the Clear CMOS switch/button/jumper or yank the CMOS battery for a minute and pop it back in.
Xdrive05
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You're welcome. In the old days we used to keep dental floss under the CMOS battery because we had to yank 'em so often whilst overclocking. Things are much better now.
hehe there were also these special IO port brackets with a CMOS reset switch jumper cabled to them. So you could reset the bios from the back of your PC without opening it up
yeah ... but usually not "just" an higher voltage.
i.e. no overclock but higher voltage shouldn't crash (unless the voltage is extreme) ; so I presume you also set a higher overclock ?
Xdrive05
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Yes, if you OC it in such a way that it is not stable enough to read the bios or load the MBR and the OS. Note that this doesn't necessarily mean you pushed it too high and reached your build's limit. It could be a balance issue where one component is stressed while the others are not even close to where they can run at stably.
But that's not the only cause for that sort of instability. There are a lot of BIOS settings that deal with things other than the CPU, RAM or chipset, that can cause a splash screen freeze, depending on any number of things. I have an old Asrock 939 dual sataII board that has some kind of tolerance and compatibility setting that was bricking it when enabled on with any kind of OC (even a minor volt change like yours), ironically enough... tolerance, eh?
The bottom line is computers are complicated, and the best thing you can do is research your motherboard on popular tech and OC forums, and use user-written OC guides for your board. Good luck! Remember to clear your CMOS if it ever hangs at the splash screen again.
Indeed I did. I also OC'ed it to 4,5 Ghz-
The bottom line is computers are complicated, and the best thing you can do is research your motherboard on popular tech and OC forums, and use user-written OC guides for your board. Good luck! Remember to clear your CMOS if it ever hangs at the splash screen again.
Thanks. The guide I read was actually a Gigabyte and Z77 from what I recall, but hey I learned something very important today!
Laughter 7
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Hey do any of you guise know what panel is inside the Yamakasi Catleap 2703 27" monitor. I.e. is it the same one that's in the Catleap Q270?
hmm I've never ran FurMark before on the 670s , so I just did
1st thing I discovered : FurMark + P95 = PSU shutdown
so HX650 ain't enough for 670SLI @ 1.21v + 4.8 GHz 2600K @1.4v when running a dual torture test
never had that during gaming obviously, then again Furmark = double the Heaven Benchmark amount of heat in Watt according to the Aquaero
anyway here is a screenshot from just Furmark [1024 something windowed, PostFX + Extreme Burn-In enabled, 8x MSAA] (already way hotter than any game I've played before)
first; yeah there's a 12c difference between my GPUs ... normal gaming this is around 6c to 8c --> FurMark + higher stress on 1st GPU I guess ? Haven't seen the GPU power % exceed 90% before either
second; usually GPU-only blocks are more efficient than fullcover ones, so your water temps are indeed higher than mine because your GPUs are as hot or hotter than mine ...
still I feel your 42c water is a bit high to get such GPU & CPU temps ... I think it is somewhat lower or my GPU 1 block isn't attached properly
what sensor is it? what temperature is the water on idle/during gaming ? are your cards overvolted as well?
FYI I'm using the Aquacomputer inline sensors; 1 before and 1 after the blocks, plus 4 ambient ones. Radiator is 9*140, push only. Normal figures during BF3 are ~28c water (24 ambient) , up to 275W Power, both sets of radiator fans running at ~600 RPM, GPU 1 45c max GPU 2 38c max
also the bottom clamps on your RAM sticks #1 & #3 don't seem to be completely pressed down
but it looks damn good ! congrats with the setup
no 24h leak test before use btw?
Its the monsoon sensor which I don't trust very much. After adding some more intake fans to my case the temps dropped to 35C under the torture test. You have 9x140 I have 5x120 so I have a lot less surface area. The problem I think is my PC is under my desk so the heat has nowhere to exhaust to. The extra fans I'm hoping will increase pressure in the case and help expel the heat farther away. Also the pull fans that aren't currently running make a huge difference as they would really push the heat away.
As for leak test I live dangerously=> (a lot of the connections didn't change from before)
yeah the 9*140 means I have a lot of reserve ... I just set the Aquaero temperature control to 3.5c water-ambient delta and fans stay at 500 rpm for the most point ... hell on idle only 3 out of 9 actually run ;p
but as for your temp sensor; connect 1 or more of the ambient sensors (you got 4 with the Aquaero right?) , set all radiator fans to maximum, set CPU to stock with energy saving enabled, and let it idle your Windows desktop for 10 minutes. At that point water temperature should be just about equal to ambient temperate sensor(s)
If the difference is still large you can then adjust the sensor a bit in the Aquasuite or on the device itself
I have a 2500k overclocked to 4.5 GHz through a simple multiplied change (33 to 45). Temps are completely stable and in Windows I've never had any problems, neither BSOD nor freezes nor crashes of any kind. However at startup, it usually takes quite a while (like 5-10 seconds) to detect the RAM and continue the boot process, and a few times (maybe 5-10 times since I got the system last december) it has gotten stuck on that screen and I had to reboot. Should I just continue to ignore it or could there be a problem?
Salsa what's the windows visual style you're using? Saw in one of your screenshots a while back.
I'm going to be so sad when I finally retire my Slot Load Pioneer IDE drive.
Probably one of the weirdest GPUs I've seen in a long time: Gigabyte 7970 Super OC
Nope. I'd get two 670s though. Gives you more options down the line, and about the same performance.
Just traded my 690 and waterblock for three 670s.
Looks like it'd be noisy as hell. It does have me wondering why nobody's come out with a GPU with a CPU-style cooler that takes up 4 or 5 slots, and has big fans each end doing push-pull. It'd have to come with a couple of struts to keep it from tearing the PCIe socket right out of the board, but people looking for powerful, quiet, air-cooled single-card rigs might go for it.
Prolimatech MK-26 takes up 3.5 slots with fans installed. Two 120mm fans.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4993/prolimatech_mk_26_video_card_cooler_review/index7.html
And yeah, that Gigabyte card is crazy loud. Those are server fans.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4993/prolimatech_mk_26_video_card_cooler_review/index7.html
And yeah, that Gigabyte card is crazy loud. Those are server fans.
Thermaltake Shaman is kinda like that... But the main issue for GPUs are the VRMs ==> Most flagship cards can use as much power as a 2600K
Small heatsinks for those only work with lots of airflow unfortunately.
With energy efficient cards (like the 670) there are luckily plenty of manufacturers available who have some decent, low noise non-reference coolers on their cards
Xdrive05
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Do stock speeds (x33 multi) yield the same hangup when looking for RAM, or is that only while OC'ed?
Have you ever run memory diagnostic tests to look for RAM errors? Memtest86 was the gold standard for...forever. Not sure what is used these days.
Might also have something to do with your RAM timings or mode. Never had that happen to me.
oh dude I dont know why I didnt respond to that PM, I saw it and totally forgot
I actually dont remember :| Im gonna try and find out and i'll get back to ya
I was thinking more along the lines of a tower cooler, something like this strapped onto the card:
(It's a dual-Xeon cooler, but about as close in size and length as I can find)
It'd be on the batshit crazy end of things, but then again so's the Gigabyte.
Would have to troubleshoot this one. Try a different cable, make sure your LAN drivers are installed, uninstall your LAN drivers and reinstall them, use a different port on your router, etc etc etc.
No way to know otherwise.
Doesn't work in terms of fitting in the space provided. You have like what, 30mm of clearance between the GPU and the motherboard? The designs then incorporate going towards the front and rear of the case instead. Since it's more spread out, it might look a bit less ridiculous, but I'd imagine the total fin surface area on a DCII cooler is pretty similar to these guys.
Hey guys,
Looking to build a PC for home use.
Uses include:
Gaming at 1080p - Games like AC3, Rome II, Skyrim with loads of mods
Video editing - Recreationally, 1080P High-Def Content
Dolphin Emulator
Internet/music
I am looking for help picking out:
Motherboard
Case
Ram
PSU
Video Card
Processor
DVD Drive
$800-$1k Budget (I would prefer to stay on the low end, but if there is value, I would pay up to $1k
Looking to build a PC for home use.
Uses include:
Gaming at 1080p - Games like AC3, Rome II, Skyrim with loads of mods
Video editing - Recreationally, 1080P High-Def Content
Dolphin Emulator
Internet/music
I am looking for help picking out:
Motherboard
Case
Ram
PSU
Video Card
Processor
DVD Drive
$800-$1k Budget (I would prefer to stay on the low end, but if there is value, I would pay up to $1k
Infinite Justice
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Check the builds from the OP and the price ranges (if you want you can mix and match a bit). Also note these are throughly researched by the OP and are good parts you can get for your money (price, reliability, etc) so if you dont see something (say AMD processors for example) its not because of fanboyisim or any shit like that but for a legit reason .
Once you have a list of parts you like then post it again for more queries/suggestions
I currently have a 2600k and have exhausted my need for HT after converting my entire DVD/BD collection to digital. I see that I can pretty much trade straight up for a 3570k. Would it be worth it for future gaming, or should I just stick with the 2600k and have the benefit of being able to turn on HT when necessary?
Looking for a case. Considering the Tauron (http://www.sharkoon.com/?q=en/node/2117) but i didn't find any reviews for it. Are there other suggestions for whereabouts of that price?
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So my brd drive didn't come with screws. :X any idea what size these might be and could Imjust grab them at RadioShack?
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Let me go check the goody bag.
Infinite Justice
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Yea it did for mine so i think that would be the best place to check first
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