I don't doubt that, but the ability to OC has a price too (different MB and CPUs, which are quite a bit more expensive), I'm a bit tight, and that's why I was wondering about the H61 since it cost a lot less.
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I don't doubt that, but the ability to OC has a price too (different MB and CPUs, which are quite a bit more expensive), I'm a bit tight, and that's why I was wondering about the H61 since it cost a lot less.
Thanks, guys. Grabbed the TZ77B deal on Newegg, since they're running a MIR and I didn't see any impressive combos.
mkenyon: Not saying I won't OC at all, it's definitely in the cards. Just saying it's staying on air and not too-too loud, so I'm never going to be probing the far limits and don't need diamond-solid OC features, so to speak, when I can get away with rock-solid ones. =D
mkenyon: Not saying I won't OC at all, it's definitely in the cards. Just saying it's staying on air and not too-too loud, so I'm never going to be probing the far limits and don't need diamond-solid OC features, so to speak, when I can get away with rock-solid ones. =D
Hey guys, I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on the phantom 410 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146085. I'm concerned there won't be enough airflow for my parts and I would have a heating issue. Here is my build. Is this case ok for me? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($209.48 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS70 OEM DVD/CD Writer
Optical Drive: LG WH12LS38 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($165.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($56.48 @ Mwave)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1829.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-24 00:12 EST-0500)
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($209.48 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS70 OEM DVD/CD Writer
Optical Drive: LG WH12LS38 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($165.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($56.48 @ Mwave)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1829.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Totally. Go for an H77. All the Z77 goodness without the OC.
You don't need high end stuff to top out Ivy. Even for full on proper water cooling, the realistic 24/7 clock is going to be 4.3-4.6, which one can do with a Hyper 212.
Don't buy the EVGA cards. Buy an Arc Midi and a pair of Corsair SP120 quiet editions.
OP. The P67/Z68 are the same as Z77/Ivy, but you just use less voltage.
*edit sorry for double post.
@JJBro The Corsair 500R is on NCIX US for $80, HAFXM on Newegg for cheap.
Phantom 410 is a good case, but I know the NZXT cases can be picky with aftermarket fans, and I can't research on my tablet
Definitely keeping an eye on that for upgrade time, maybe even earlier. I did realize it was easier than the AMD egg-fryers I played with in high school, but I didn't realize it was that much cheaper and quieter.
It's almost frustrating how easy it is in a very elitist sort of way. But really, it is freaking awesome that they have made it this easy. On the flip side, that easyness means no OCing non-K parts since BCLK is locked down at 100mhz.
STEELSERIES SENSEI RAW FOR $41 AND FLUX (BEATS QUALITY HEADSET) FOR $70 ON STEELSERIES WEBSITE. BUY THIS MOUSE NOW, IT IS KING OF MICE.
STEELSERIES SENSEI RAW FOR $41 AND FLUX (BEATS QUALITY HEADSET) FOR $70 ON STEELSERIES WEBSITE. BUY THIS MOUSE NOW, IT IS KING OF MICE.
Yeah, definitely. Listen to Smokey, dude is cooling two video cards that have like 4x the power draw of two 670s in one.
HarryDemeanor
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How's the BitFenix Survivor? Is it a good buy or should I wait for the Arc Midi to go back on sale?
The Frankman
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fuk yo team clown.131 POINTS LOL
sorry pc - age but i had to do it
Any reason why? I already bought the cards over the summer.
wanna get this doubt cleared since its been a while since ive had the opportunity to check other high-end cards (as in, not mine)
the noise im basically getting with this 680 (and with the previous 670) is something akin to this:
http://youtu.be/-svRvAjgfLQ?t=7m20s
that whine you hear in all 3 of those cards under load. Difference here is that the pitch of that whine changes depending on what's going on in the screen (where I look at, etc)
now, I know this is not the high pitched whine I get when I let frames reach the 1000s and whatnot, but is this still considered coil whine and is it normal on every card?
the noise im basically getting with this 680 (and with the previous 670) is something akin to this:
http://youtu.be/-svRvAjgfLQ?t=7m20s
that whine you hear in all 3 of those cards under load. Difference here is that the pitch of that whine changes depending on what's going on in the screen (where I look at, etc)
now, I know this is not the high pitched whine I get when I let frames reach the 1000s and whatnot, but is this still considered coil whine and is it normal on every card?
Felix Lighter
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Seeing all these black friday deals, I think, hopefully, I can go 2 years and build a whole new system on Black Friday deals. I just have to resist the urge for 2 years.
JustProgress
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wanted a smaller tower so I switched from my 800D to 550D, took some cutting but it fits, also changed the h100 to a h100i.
Dang bruh, looking really nice. How's the 550D?
Wolf Akela
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Wut @ the max temps of my motherboard. I left it on overnight to download from Steam.
god damn I just ran 3Dmark11 without locking the framerate and man, I thought the noise I was having with v-sync was bad. The chirping the card makes once it surpasses 80fps is INSANE.
I think my dreams of a 120hz monitor with a single card just died
dont have $500+ to spend on a monitor anyway
I think my dreams of a 120hz monitor with a single card just died
dont have $500+ to spend on a monitor anyway
YianGaruga
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You need someone else to confirm, but I read somewhere that the AUXTIN value of HWmonitor is pretty much useless anyway. So I wouldn't worry about that.
I have a somewhat open case and I can hear none of that with my 670, even under load. I cap my FPS to 60 in every application, so maybe it would start if I let it run freely. With my 560 Ti I only got the high pitched noise when it got into the 1000 FPS range as well.
HarryDemeanor
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Holy shit I'm heading to Frys tomorrow. i5 3570k + MSI Z77A-G43 for $209 and a $30 rebate = $179.
CPU-Z
Name AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
Codename Windsor
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
Package Socket AM2 (940)
CPUID F.3.3
Chipset
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Northbridge NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 251.1 MHz (CPU/12)
DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) (0000000000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
Monitoring
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Mainboard Model ALiveNF6G-VSTA (0x0000044D - 0xF4668DEA)
LPCIO
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LPCIO Vendor Winbond
LPCIO Model W83627EHF
LPCIO Vendor ID 0x5CA3
LPCIO Chip ID 0x88
LPCIO Revision ID 0x63
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Display adapter 0
Name Radeon HD 5670
Codename RV830
Technology 40 nm
Memory size 512 MB
Help? I'm looking to buy today from the above store, am can I get a decent bump with a processor and graphics card upgrade for £200/£250?
Pretty good, but crammed for what I have in it, I lost half my sata ports unless I cut more into the case, but I only have an intel 520 480gb in there right now and will probably only add a 2tb black so I dont really need the other ones.
the h100i is pressing on the cpu power connectors, and for the rive to fit I had to cut a decent chunk out of the case near the bottom right corner of the mobo. I knew I was getting into this though when going down in size.
on the + side I added a 3x hdd bay in the top bays leaving the bottom 2x 120mm fans and the area around them open and I might add 2x h80i's and have 1 on each GPU.
Manp
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wanted a smaller tower so I switched from my 800D to 550D, took some cutting but it fits, also changed the h100 to a h100i.
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those might very well be the best fans money can buy but damn they're an eyesore.
i should know since i got Noctuas for one of my builds (i know those are not Noctuas but you get the point).
i don't want to sound like a jerk, your build still looks ace!
:)
Very slick!
Best example I could find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HxFBHdtvGI
I guess use the nVidia frame limiter / D3D to limit to 60 or 62 FPS?
Numbers are fine, some of them can go dumb.
No CPU upgrade is going to help you on that motherboard.
I'd get a better GPU like a 6850/6870, a VP450 power supply or similar, then save until you can get a new motherboard and CPU.
Damn, that's nice.
Finally got around to trying Metro 2033 after all of these years. Put it on DX11, Very High Settings, physx on, and disabled Depth of Field. Played about a hour of it...
:O
Seem to avg around 45fps @ 2560x1600. Lowest I've seen it get is 30 fps. It's quite the looker. I know I'm late but it looks so good.
:O
Seem to avg around 45fps @ 2560x1600. Lowest I've seen it get is 30 fps. It's quite the looker. I know I'm late but it looks so good.
Your CPU will still bottleneck.
Here's an example with your CPU vs. Intel's cheapest I would reccomend: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/28?vs=404
That said I highly recommend you get just a TOUCH more money if possible and go with this:
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co.../asrock-skt-1155-ddr3-micro-atx-hdmi-out.html
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co...-socket-1155-sandy-bridge---retail-boxed.html *
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co...600mhz-9-9-9-24-2x-4gb-kit---low-profile.html
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co...ter-gx-lite-500w-86-single-12v-rail-230v.html
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co...gb-ddr5-hd7770-pci-express-graphics-card.html
Totals to 290 quid. I really suggest stretching as you will get a lot more performance out of an HD7770 than an HD7750.
Nothing will beat performance/price from that shop on that budget with quality parts.
On the flip side you can buy a PSU and GPU now with that money and upgrade the rest later. I think actually that would be the way to go if you can't stretch now. *YOU SAID YOU COLD SO WHATEVER*
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co...ter-gx-lite-500w-86-single-12v-rail-230v.html
http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/co...7870-gddr5-pci-expresss-30-graphics-card.html
Totals to 215 and gives you roughly 3x the GPU power you had before. Your CPU will still hold you back to some degrees, but it's a good place to save for later. Athlon 64 X2 with a 7870 feels funny though. I almost think the CPU disparity is too much and you'd get better FPS with the above config.
Thanks so much Haz, ill stretch a bit and get exactly that. Thank you.
You listed the motherboard twice, what CPU should I get?
wanted a smaller tower so I switched from my 800D to 550D, took some cutting but it fits, also changed the h100 to a h100i.
Tidy mate. You might want to put some of these on the side fans;
I'd personally put them outside the case.
Updated. If you nab the 7870 for 175 it'll scream as a system, but that's probably a bit too far out of reach right? Would be 365 total, running away a bit there
But tempting... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=536
Oh and if the clerk talks down about the G850 kindly ignore their opinion!
I picked up a cheap 7970 with EK water block on ebay today, $AU400 which is damn good. So I have to buy this extra gear to cope with the heat;
It's also time for a clean and replacement of the coolant so I will do that too. Haven't added to the rig for ages, I'm pretty damn excited.
It's also time for a clean and replacement of the coolant so I will do that too. Haven't added to the rig for ages, I'm pretty damn excited.
Updated. If you nab the 7870 for 175 it'll scream as a system, but that's probably a bit too far out of reach right? Would be 365 total, running away a bit there
But tempting... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=536
Oh and if the clerk talks down about the G850 kindly ignore their opinion!
I'm pushing it with the option 1 but thanks again so much.
I'll let you know what the clerk says.
Ok, so I have a Fractal Arc Midi and an Asus P8Z77-V LX motherboard, I'm noticing that the front panel USB3 port is not performing at anything close to USB3 speeds (compared to the ports round the back).
I've tried updating the Intel drivers for this, this doesn't appear to have helped. Does anyone have any experience with this?
I've tried updating the Intel drivers for this, this doesn't appear to have helped. Does anyone have any experience with this?
evil solrac v3.0
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4839988
not sure if anyone has seen this but how good is this SSD?
not sure if anyone has seen this but how good is this SSD?
Updated. If you nab the 7870 for 175 it'll scream as a system, but that's probably a bit too far out of reach right? Would be 365 total, running away a bit there
But tempting... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=536
Oh and if the clerk talks down about the G850 kindly ignore their opinion!
Hmm maybe I go for option 2 then build get the CPU, Motherboard and Memory in a fe months. to get the £365 option.
Think that's what i'll do, i'm head off in 90mins, let me know if I'm making a mistake guys.
The Silverstone PS07 is like $78 on Newegg. Kinda plasticky, but it has two filtered intake fans and a filter for the PSU on the top. mATX.
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So I ended up playing with the voltages on my 3750k anyway. I've found a very stable OC at 4.6 Ghz with 1.368 max Vcore. After hours of prime95 the hottest any of the cores get is 79 and none of them stay that hot. Interestingly when I'm actually running prime95 the vcore alternates between 1.308 and 1.296 according to Hardware Monitor. But when not under load the vcore does go up to 1.368. The cooler is 212 evo.
I feel like my voltage is a little high, but when I go one increment down it crashes after an hour or so of prime95. Since my temps are acceptable, am I ok or should worry about the vcore?
I feel like my voltage is a little high, but when I go one increment down it crashes after an hour or so of prime95. Since my temps are acceptable, am I ok or should worry about the vcore?
Nothing like a good water rebuild. 7970s are monsters under waterI picked up a cheap 7970 with EK water block on ebay today, $AU400 which is damn good. So I have to buy this extra gear to cope with the heat;
It's also time for a clean and replacement of the coolant so I will do that too. Haven't added to the rig for ages, I'm pretty damn excited.
They run loud and hot compared to just about any other.
Looks great! One day, you will cave and go full water!wanted a smaller tower so I switched from my 800D to 550D, took some cutting but it fits, also changed the h100 to a h100i.
triplestation
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GTX 680 4GB FTW is $550 and I want it so bad.
When can I expect a price drop? How long should I wait? What's the lowest price this would sink down to?
When can I expect a price drop? How long should I wait? What's the lowest price this would sink down to?
It'll stick around there until the next gen of cards release.
Why not go with a 7970 or 670 4GB? EVGA Kepler cards are pretty bad compared to the competition anyway.
RumblingRosco
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Does anyone have an i3 3220 stock cooler handy? I cannot find the dimensions online and need to know if it is less than 65 mm tall. I found one post on Tom's Hardware suggesting it is only 55 mm tall but a second opinion would be helpful. Would prefer to just use the stock if I can to avoid spending another $30+... Although the Cooler Master GeminII M4 is a pretty sweet replacement cooler, so I won't be too disappointed if I need to grab one.
Why is this? Which brands should one be looking at for a 670?
Get the Gigabyte Windforce OC. That shit is heavenly.
They run loud and hot, to the point that they down clock under load and have zero OC room unless you are okay with lots of noise.
Gigabyte Windforce is king, ASUS DCII, MSI Twin Frozr, and some other dual fan options are good.
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